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Bar swap Bug

  • Hillier11
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    Still no update, not even a holding message or reply to my last email sent on the 27th July.
  • Chaos2088
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    After today's update still the same!

    Please just fix it.....been going on since greymoor launched.
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • Lylith
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    barswap rng: it's been a feature for many years now and it's only gotten better and more pronounced and capricious with time.
  • LMarshall910
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    Not heard anything from anyone but I think it might be fixed... I can now use both weapons, still revive people and use the scrying ability. I have leveled up to L9 in excavation and L8 in scrying on this character whereas I maxed out on another character, and it seems to be running fine on both. I have 0 skill points remaining to spend and have no problems on either character. Happy days. Thanks for fixing it ZOS :-)
  • Chaos2088
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    Not heard anything from anyone but I think it might be fixed... I can now use both weapons, still revive people and use the scrying ability. I have leveled up to L9 in excavation and L8 in scrying on this character whereas I maxed out on another character, and it seems to be running fine on both. I have 0 skill points remaining to spend and have no problems on either character. Happy days. Thanks for fixing it ZOS :-)

    Thats good for you :) still not working my end.
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • Marcus_Thracius
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    Bug seems to happen after you invest more skill points after the bar of 445 skill points
  • Rexy18
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    Bug seems to happen after you invest more skill points after the bar of 445 skill points

    Thank you so much, my main was unable to rez anybody in Cyro for ages now and I couldn't find any info relating to this bug. I recently had the one where I couldn't bar swap and can confirm this occurs when you invest 445+ skillpoints. Even weirder, investing skillpoints into one tree (above 445) starts removing them from your other trees
  • Marcus_Thracius
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    Rexy18 wrote: »
    Bug seems to happen after you invest more skill points after the bar of 445 skill points

    Thank you so much, my main was unable to rez anybody in Cyro for ages now and I couldn't find any info relating to this bug. I recently had the one where I couldn't bar swap and can confirm this occurs when you invest 445+ skillpoints. Even weirder, investing skillpoints into one tree (above 445) starts removing them from your other trees

    Yeah - and all the back and forth I had with Zos support didnt help at all, after the generic copy pasted responces I got , I had to just solve it on my own , after like 20 respecs and 21k gold lost on each to find this solution

    Hope it will help ppl if they ever get it
    Edited by Marcus_Thracius on August 30, 2020 9:15PM
  • Spiritrush
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    @Zos, this is a real bug that simply destroys a character's ability to play the game. Given the feedback to date, it may not be particularly difficult to determine the source of the bug. Please look into this. Both an inability to rez other players (in both pve and pvp) and an inability to swap bars can lock in perpetuity (they are locked in sequence - appears to be inability to rez first, and then with another skill point an inability to swap bars) when skill points used are in the 445+ range. I have put in 3 requests (bug report, customer support, etc.) with no meaningful client service response. Please let us know you are looking into this, or at least advise all players not to use more than 444 skill points (or whatever the bug threshold is) until this is resolved. Resetting all of your skill points appears to be the only fix. Thank you.
    Edited by Spiritrush on September 1, 2020 7:03AM
  • freespirit
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    It cannot just be skill points otherwise this thread would be way, way more than 3 pages!

    I have max points and no issues, there has to be another trigger too :)
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • LMarshall910
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    freespirit wrote: »
    I have max points and no issues, there has to be another trigger too :)
    I agree, there must be another trigger that causes it. I believe it is something to do with scrying but can't put my finger on it as to what. It may have been simply the date when we did the scrying quest initially as there seemed to be a lot of other bugs at the same time. Was pretty early on when Greymoor came out myself.
  • Hillier11
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    Still no reply @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BillE
  • Marcus_Thracius
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    Must be something with excavation skill line that triggers it
  • DigitalHype
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    Must be something with excavation skill line that triggers it

    This is insightful. Of my 4 characters, the only one with the bar swap bug is one where i have max leveled the scrying/excavation.
  • LMarshall910
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    the only one with the bar swap bug is one where i have max leveled the scrying/excavation.

    I can confirm this is not the case. I have not maxed any of my characters out on scrying and excavation and and have had the issue. It may be wgen you apply one of the particular skills within the scrying or excavation skill line though.
  • DigitalHype
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    the only one with the bar swap bug is one where i have max leveled the scrying/excavation.

    I can confirm this is not the case. I have not maxed any of my characters out on scrying and excavation and and have had the issue. It may be wgen you apply one of the particular skills within the scrying or excavation skill line though.

    Yes. My post was misleading. I don't think it is related to the maxing of scrying/excavation. But, possibly part of those skill tree's combined with something else. My other three characters have 0 points in the skill line or haven't unlocked the skill line at all.
  • Wildberryjack
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    Had this issue multiple times yesterday. Fighting WBs and my bar would not swap despite my hitting the button 3-5 times. It isn't consistent though, sometimes the bar swaps fine, and I did check my latency at the time. It's hit or miss really.

    Editing to add, the toon in question is a vampire with the antiquities lines maxed out.
    Edited by Wildberryjack on August 31, 2020 8:46PM
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  • Marcus_Thracius
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    Add to that the fact you cant rez ppl for some reason - even if you manage to work around the bar swap bug with a respec , sometimes the rez bug lingers for god knows what reason
  • Spiritrush
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    freespirit wrote: »
    It cannot just be skill points otherwise this thread would be way, way more than 3 pages!

    I have max points and no issues, there has to be another trigger too :)

    I think this is true as well. The bug has occurred on my only character with max antiquity skill lines.
  • Chaos2088
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    Spiritrush wrote: »
    freespirit wrote: »
    It cannot just be skill points otherwise this thread would be way, way more than 3 pages!

    I have max points and no issues, there has to be another trigger too :)

    I think this is true as well. The bug has occurred on my only character with max antiquity skill lines.

    Same here, it is just my main character (which I do everything on) was asked by devs if it was happening on other characters, said havent even lvl'ed antiquity on others due to the problems I was having. Since then have been doing it on an alt who has 471 skill points and counting, no problems at the moment. So something happened that bugged out on main and broke it somehow.

    Really hope this is addressed soon.
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO
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    My main (tons of skill points, maxed out in pretty much every skill line) was just hit with this as well. Could not res, unable to swap bars. Gear changes, stripping naked, suicide by "Leeroy Jenkins" or /reloadui did not help. Relogging in the middle of the dungeon seems to have fixed it for now, though.

    On a side note, the update that was supposed to reduce the character load times seems to have had the opposite effect for me. Relogging now takes significantly longer than it did a week ago.
  • LMarshall910
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    Spiritrush wrote: »
    The bug has occurred on my only character with max antiquity skill lines.
    I know it is a big ask, but can you try and get another character leveled up to 4/5 antiquarian insight in scrying and excavation? After doing this myself it seems to have some sort of affect on my other character, removing the problem.
    For me I am convinced it is when we started the skill lines in our main character that has caused it to glitch. If you level up another character from now, the problem goes away.
    I may be wrong, hence why I want someone else to try it but I think it is when you apply the 3/5 antiquarian insight that breaks it, but applying 4/5 antiquarian insight on another character fixes it for the whole account (and therefore on the main character).
  • Spiritrush
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    Spiritrush wrote: »
    The bug has occurred on my only character with max antiquity skill lines.
    I know it is a big ask, but can you try and get another character leveled up to 4/5 antiquarian insight in scrying and excavation? After doing this myself it seems to have some sort of affect on my other character, removing the problem.
    For me I am convinced it is when we started the skill lines in our main character that has caused it to glitch. If you level up another character from now, the problem goes away.
    I may be wrong, hence why I want someone else to try it but I think it is when you apply the 3/5 antiquarian insight that breaks it, but applying 4/5 antiquarian insight on another character fixes it for the whole account (and therefore on the main character).

    A good idea, but I just 'fixed' the issue with the skill points reset. If I have time this weekend I will see if the bug re-emerges when I hit 455+ skill points use, and go from there...
  • LMarshall910
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    Glad you've got a workaround. :-) Can anyone confirm if it was properly fixed with yesterday's update as I too only used the workaround fix?
  • Chaos2088
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    Can 100% confirm it is not fixed. lol
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • LMarshall910
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    Can 100% confirm it is not fixed. lol

    That's annoying. At least we know now and it is written down on the forums.
  • Marcus_Thracius
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    After more testing it seems to be the excavation skill line : Trowel + Excavation reserves. When I put points in them the bar swap bug happens and cant rez ppl.
    All this after the 455+ skill points use
  • Chaos2088
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    After more testing it seems to be the excavation skill line : Trowel + Excavation reserves. When I put points in them the bar swap bug happens and cant rez ppl.
    All this after the 455+ skill points use

    Getting the exact same thing.
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • Chaos2088
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    Still not fixed.......
    @Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP
  • Altyrann
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    Continue to find this bug occurring. Not been able to isolate the cause, but when it hits I sometimes can't use abilities at all or even unequip weapons.
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