The Real Reason Jewelry Crafting is so Expensive:

VoidCommander · August 2020

So I was helping a new player get situated with ESO, and they wanted to know how to make fast gold so they can pay for the DLCs. I recommended that they try crafting writs, especially the jewelry crafting ones so they could sell the gold upgrade materials they gained as rewards. However, when I gave them a bloodthirsty ring for them to research (and then transmute their gear to be better at dps), they couldn't access the jewelry crafting station.

I have personally been an ESO+ subscriber ever since I started playing, so I didn't realize that jewelry crafting was locked behind a paywall. So the real reason that jewelry crafting is so costly isn't because you need to get 10 grains or whatever in order to make one upgrade material, its because a large portion of the player-base isn't even able to access it at all.

Despite the fact that players can't access what I would consider something that should be a part of the base game at this point, why are they being prevented from using crafting stations that they have clear access to? A transmute station is only located in Clockwork City, and yet I was able to have my friend use mine at my player owned house. Why aren't jewelry crafting stations treated the same way?

It is not as though the Summerset DLC is a hard sell or anything. It has a trial that drops 3-4 meta sets, the best zone aesthetics in the game, a guild skill line that has purpose in all group roles, and an incredibly captivating quest line. Tacking on jewelry crafting access seems so unnecessary at this point, and it doesn't make sense to a new player to have (at this point) a core crafting skill line randomly locked behind a paywall.

zaria · August 2020

No if jewlery had the same temper system as clothing, blacksmithing and woodworking it would still be locked behind the paywall.
The real reason is that gold jewelry required you to do vet trials, getting high up on an leaderboard or get lucky with the golden, they did not want to cheapen it.
Now you could just do normal DLC dungeons and trials an upgrade it, yes you still can but it cost.

Taleof2Cities · August 2020

VoidCommander wrote: »

It is not as though the Summerset DLC is a hard sell or anything.

Well, if the DLC is not "a hard sell or anything" why doesn't your friend just buy it?

Or at the very least subscribe to ESO+?

Old content is really not that expensive ...

Vevvev · August 2020

It came as a feature of Summerset and has always required that expansion for it. The insane grind and unique temper material mechanics for it were introduced to not cheapen all the gold jewelry people earned before that point. Or so I'm told...

Integral1900 · August 2020

1 - Join guild

2 - Use guild jewellery crafting station

Repeat step 2

tmbrinks · August 2020

Integral1900 wrote: »

1 - Join guild

2 - Use guild jewellery crafting station

Repeat step 2

doesn't work that way.

If you don't have Summerset, you can't interact with any jewelry stations...

Kingslayer513 · August 2020

I don't understand where the confusion is coming from on jewelry crafting prices. On PC NA gold tempers go for 7-8k, gold wax goes for 7-8k, and chromium grains go for 8-9k. All of these drop at a rate of 1 per 200 raw mats refined. Platings require 10x grains and the price reflects that (90-100k currently). These prices seem reasonably consistent with each other without the need to theorize deeper meanings behind everything.

shimm · August 2020

That’s a first - chromium (gold) platings can be found for about $75k on Xbox... usually stuff is more expensive than pc ...

tmbrinks · August 2020

shimm wrote: »

That’s a first - chromium (gold) platings can be found for about $75k on Xbox... usually stuff is more expensive than pc ...

I would hypothesize that the fact that PC has add-ons to be able to gear swap contributes some to the higher cost. On the consoles more people tend to only run 1 set of jewelry (say bloodthirsty) through trials. Whereas on PC, because of the easy gear swaps, they are more likely to have multiple sets (like infused, swift, etc...) that can be swapped out with a button push for the very minor gains it might give you.

Just a hypothesis...

Jayman1000 · August 2020

First off, you can buy sommerset DLC from other players with gold if they gift the crown store purchase to you. Gold can be earned in game, which makes it not a paywal. Secondly, Jewelcrafting being expensive have little to do with the summerset "paywall" and much more to do with the fact that the refinement process of getting jewelry platings are MUCH higher than the other ressources, like 10 times higher. Hence 10 times the price. On top of that jewelry nodes are a lot less numerous than any of the other nodes and further; even though people say they are shared with blacksmithing nodes it's clear that there are actually more blacksmithing nodes spawning than there are jewelcrafting ones (or maybe someone else have already been there and taken them before I get to them when I farm because I can never seem to locate many of them but always plenty or rubedite nodes around).

shadyjane62 · August 2020

I hardly make jewelry at all just a few pieces for my alts. I throw away the master writs as they are worthless.

The mats are too expensive and I just have a bad taste in my mouth about the whole jewelry thing.

idk · August 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

VoidCommander wrote: »

It is not as though the Summerset DLC is a hard sell or anything.

Well, if the DLC is not "a hard sell or anything" why doesn't your friend just buy it?

Or at the very least subscribe to ESO+?

Old content is really not that expensive ...

This ^^^

I open this thread thinking there was some provoking thoughts behind the reason for the high cost of JC. I was disappointed that this thread is more about asking to get access to JC for free.

Kingslayer513 · August 2020

shimm wrote: »

That’s a first - chromium (gold) platings can be found for about $75k on Xbox... usually stuff is more expensive than pc ...

Yeah the price used to be 75-80k and just recently shot up to 90-100k. New patch coming and all that.

Anyways what I was saying is that the prices of grains, tempers, and wax are reasonably consistent with each other, and the platings are 10x grains so naturally they're at least 10x the price.

zvavi · August 2020

You are aware that this argument doesn't go well because the amount of people that can use jewelry materials are the same as the ones getting them from crafting right?

AinSoph · August 2020

This is why you read things.

jm42 · August 2020

I consider Summerset as must-have because it is 2-nd best DLC in this game, so this problem is inexistent for me

Varana · August 2020

Also, you can harvest jewelry nodes without having access to Summerset. Supply of raw materials is not impeded by not everyone having the DLC.
So I fail to see how restricting the access to jewelry stations, has anything to do with pricing.

tmbrinks · August 2020

Varana wrote: »

Also, you can harvest jewelry nodes without having access to Summerset. Supply of raw materials is not impeded by not everyone having the DLC.
So I fail to see how restricting the access to jewelry stations, has anything to do with pricing.

daily jewelry writs are one of the biggest sources of chromium grains... so not being able to do those would most certainly have an impact on the supply, which means the pricing would be higher.

Everest_Lionheart · August 2020

The XB1 traders are crazy high for platings. Honestly it’s best to max out your alt’s in jewelry crafting for the guaranteed grains. 10 alt’s 1 gold plate per day. Sure it takes time but it’s way cheaper and more reliable in the long run.

Any surveys you get be sure to funnel them to your main crafter and only refine raw mats with that same toon. Also buy the cheap room in Alinor for 3000 gold for easy access to the crafting certification.

After that craft a bunch of rings on your main, throw them in the bank and decon them on your alts. If you’ve got the craft bag you aren’t really wasting mats, just recycling them. Rinse and repeat. Jewelry crafting goes really fast this way. This little bit of a grind more than pays for itself.

VoidCommander · August 2020

Jayman1000 wrote: »

First off, you can buy sommerset DLC from other players with gold if they gift the crown store purchase to you. Gold can be earned in game, which makes it not a paywal. Secondly, Jewelcrafting being expensive have little to do with the summerset "paywall" and much more to do with the fact that the refinement process of getting jewelry platings are MUCH higher than the other ressources, like 10 times higher. Hence 10 times the price. On top of that jewelry nodes are a lot less numerous than any of the other nodes and further; even though people say they are shared with blacksmithing nodes it's clear that there are actually more blacksmithing nodes spawning than there are jewelcrafting ones (or maybe someone else have already been there and taken them before I get to them when I farm because I can never seem to locate many of them but always plenty or rubedite nodes around).

Except that is not a reliable system, and players are often subjected to scammers. Those scammers are also immune to punishment since ZOS has explicitly stated that they won't take action regarding dishonest crown selling.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

VoidCommander wrote: »

It is not as though the Summerset DLC is a hard sell or anything.

Well, if the DLC is not "a hard sell or anything" why doesn't your friend just buy it?

Or at the very least subscribe to ESO+?

Old content is really not that expensive ...

He lives in the Philippines where I have personally seen the level of poverty there during a visit to the city of Manilla. The fact he has a PC that can run ESO is a borderline miracle already.

tmbrinks wrote: »

Varana wrote: »

Also, you can harvest jewelry nodes without having access to Summerset. Supply of raw materials is not impeded by not everyone having the DLC.
So I fail to see how restricting the access to jewelry stations, has anything to do with pricing.

daily jewelry writs are one of the biggest sources of chromium grains... so not being able to do those would most certainly have an impact on the supply, which means the pricing would be higher.

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It took be about a year to get enough mats to upgrade my first set of jewelry to gold. After I started doing daily jewelry crafting writs on my 9 characters, I now get 12 chromium platings in less than 2 weeks. I have a SURPLUS of platings that I can sell. If everyone could do this, the prices for platings would be able to be LOWER.

Daemons_Bane · August 2020

VoidCommander wrote: »

It took be about a year to get enough mats to upgrade my first set of jewelry to gold.

Then you did something wrong.. I have been back for 3-4 months, have 1 JC toon, and I have enough mats for 2 full sets

zaria · August 2020

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

I don't understand where the confusion is coming from on jewelry crafting prices. On PC NA gold tempers go for 7-8k, gold wax goes for 7-8k, and chromium grains go for 8-9k. All of these drop at a rate of 1 per 200 raw mats refined. Platings require 10x grains and the price reflects that (90-100k currently). These prices seem reasonably consistent with each other without the need to theorize deeper meanings behind everything.

Now the purple prices are very high. This is probably as lots farm normal DLC and trials for jewelry and upgrade rather than farming vet and most people stop at purple. Think I only upgraded ebon jewelry as its an evergreen group support set.
its not for the lack of gold but its kind of pointless.