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Bosmer Height

  • Ye_Olde_Crowe
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    I’m totally fine with my petite Bosmer, but what does bother me is the height and possibly the proportions of male Bosmer. My main is a female Bosmer, only just a bit taller than middle of the height bar, and it seems that she is taller than every male Bosmer I’ve come across or am able to make
    In Oblivion, my (totally average) female Bosmer was of pretty regular height, she didn't stick out in any context, while my (totally average) male Bosmer was tiny. And as someone else mentioned, in The Shivering Isles both Dark Seducer and Golden Saint females towered over the males; at least the Aureal males were based on Bosmer models, so it made sense.
    Nowadays whenever I make a Bosmer char, I tend to make the females very tall and the males very short tpo enhance this.

    So ... it's been that way at least back to Oblivion (someone mentioned Skyrim). Have nothing to compare for the games before that because I didn't play Bosmer from Arena to Morrowind.


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  • Hapexamendios
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    I like my midget tank.
  • Thevampirenight
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    I'd like the ability to make bosmer females shorter to give the more ohmes feel for my ohmes characters.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    I'd like the ability to make bosmer females shorter to give the more ohmes feel for my ohmes characters.

    Try making them wider, then they will feel shorter :)
  • Araneae6537
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    I’m totally fine with my petite Bosmer, but what does bother me is the height and possibly the proportions of male Bosmer. My main is a female Bosmer, only just a bit taller than middle of the height bar, and it seems that she is taller than every male Bosmer I’ve come across or am able to make
    In Oblivion, my (totally average) female Bosmer was of pretty regular height, she didn't stick out in any context, while my (totally average) male Bosmer was tiny. And as someone else mentioned, in The Shivering Isles both Dark Seducer and Golden Saint females towered over the males; at least the Aureal males were based on Bosmer models, so it made sense.
    Nowadays whenever I make a Bosmer char, I tend to make the females very tall and the males very short tpo enhance this.

    So ... it's been that way at least back to Oblivion (someone mentioned Skyrim). Have nothing to compare for the games before that because I didn't play Bosmer from Arena to Morrowind.

    I didn’t realize that. I didn’t know a lot about Bosmer before ESO, only knew them as shorter stealthy archers. (I played Morrowind most and only a bit of the games since then.) It seems weird to me that there would even be a height difference (when there is not in other mer) and so pronounced that my average height Bosmer female would still be taller than the tallest Bosmer male.
    vestahls wrote: »
    Bosmer males are canonically shorter than the females. People complain all the time that ESO messes with the official lore, let's not perpetuate that :D
    It's been this way since at least Morrowind, where Bosmer males had 0.9 to the females' 1.0 ratio.

    Yeah it is kind of strange to see the females taller than the males, even if it is a fantasy setting, but this isn't the only game that does it. I think in DnD, the Drow males are shorter too, and weaker than females.

    I had not realized that (hence why I searched out this thread) and certainly wouldn’t ask for a change against lore (on that note, return Bosmer stealth bonus!) but it seems it should apply across the range, or maybe the height range allowed by the slider is very small indeed, come to think of it. 🤔
    Edited by Araneae6537 on December 15, 2019 10:11PM
  • max_only
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    Bosmer necro never goes hungry it seems.

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  • Araneae6537
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    max_only wrote: »
    Bosmer necro never goes hungry it seems.

    2018 thread, wow

    Why do people make such a big deal about this??? Should I have started a new thread? Then people would have told me to use the search function. Am I not allowed to discuss it then because others already did last year? That is ridiculous. I added to this thread because I saw no reason to start a new one and previous posts here were relevant.
  • Mr_Walker
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    joseayalac wrote: »

    However, it is really underwhelming that male wood elves are -forced- to be so short....

    What do you guys think?

    I think their racial passives are the truly underwhelming thing about wood elves. On the "how crap are my racial passives scale", they stand head and shoulders above all other races....
  • Deathlord92
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    I’d like it if I could make my Male bosmer as tall as a Breton average height at least.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    The biggest issue is water depth. The shortest character possible shouldn't have to swim when other races can run across it. Obviously that would be true IRL, but for the sake of people keeping up with groups and stuff it should just be this way.
  • Foxhearted
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    male bosmer are supposed to be tiny... if anything the female bosmer should be a bit taller.
  • Wildberryjack
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    Soleya wrote: »
    ezio45 wrote: »
    the poor bosmer have nothing going for them other than there tiny cutesness!!! (racials suck) dont take that from them!!!!!!

    I wish they'd remove the fall damage racial which is negligible and replace it with 5% more bow damage.

    Agree, and give that fall damage reduction to the Khajiit, they are CATS after all. Oh, and give Bosmer back their stealth bonus, it's better to have two races to chose from for a thief character than to be locked to one meta.
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  • Fur_like_snow
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    No, it is both your gift and curse for choosing to play as bosmer.
  • RavenLake
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    Its a racial thing. Keep the boys short.
  • Deathlord92
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    Has anyone tried playing a Male bosmer at max height does it change your blade of woe kills? Are you still shorter then a average Breton or imperial?
  • Deathlord92
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    Don’t get me wrong I love playing a bosmer I don’t want to be as tall as a nord but I don’t want to be really short either getting at the very least a Breton average height my goal here any advice greatly appreciated.
  • Deathlord92
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    Past elder scrolls I always play bosmer and Breton I loved that in Skyrim bosmer was the same height as everyone else.
  • supersonic_kitten
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    I took a seat in the Vuhkal Guard TG last evening before logging off with my tall, muscular Altmer Den and not 10 seconds later the cutest little Bosmer lad sat on my lap. So adorable. Like a puppy.

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    That's a strange looking child. And why is he allowed to drink beer?!
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    Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake
  • TheWoanderer
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    Bosmer are nice and tiny. Will head pat them all

    Pat me on the head... I dare ya....
    Just know though....
    I always aim for the knee 😉 lol
  • Chaos2088
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    Well there are some NPC bosmer that are just as tall as my high elf's (that have the silders on the tallest possible) Should just unlock the height tbh on all races if they are in game. if want to stick to lore you can, if you want your vestige to be a bit different why not.
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  • shadyjane62
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    NetViperX wrote: »
    I think in order to properly research this topic we needs lots of screenshots of female Bosmer in skimpy outfits or underwear.

    We don't wear any underwear.
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    NetViperX wrote: »
    I think in order to properly research this topic we needs lots of screenshots of female Bosmer in skimpy outfits or underwear.

    This
  • Syldras
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    Well there are some NPC bosmer that are just as tall as my high elf's (that have the silders on the tallest possible)

    Do you have names? I have never realized that, and it would be a bit strange as ZOS normally cares about the lore.

    Generally I think, the races are the way they are, there are 10 to choose from, so why would you choose a race that is defined as extremely short, but then complain about their height? No one would complain about not being able to play a tiny Altmer, I guess? (On the other hand there was already a thread about someone wanting to remove the tails of Khajiit, so...)
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    The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
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    Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
    Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake
  • supersonic_kitten
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    Syldras wrote: »
    Well there are some NPC bosmer that are just as tall as my high elf's (that have the silders on the tallest possible)

    Do you have names? I have never realized that, and it would be a bit strange as ZOS normally cares about the lore.

    @Syldras, wrong quote in your post, but yeah I'm also interested in what NPC's @Chaos2088 is talking about. If possible, with screenshots. I can't recall ever seeing bosmer that tall. 👀
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    @Syldras, wrong quote in your post, but yeah I'm also interested in what NPC's @Chaos2088 is talking about. If possible, with screenshots. I can't recall ever seeing bosmer that tall. 👀

    Oh, I'm sorry. (How did that even happen?)... Thanks for correcting.

    I've definitively never seen a Bosmer tall as an Altmer. I just checked - even the Silvenar (who could have been magically changed in a way) has normal Bosmer height.
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    The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
    Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
    Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
    Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake
  • Chaos2088
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    @supersonic_kitten @Syldras

    The NPC is at the undaunted camp in Elden root, called Venomous Fauridil, deffo a bosmer and deffo tall :)
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  • supersonic_kitten
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    Chaos2088 wrote: »
    @supersonic_kitten @Syldras

    The NPC is at the undaunted camp in Elden root, called Venomous Fauridil, deffo a bosmer and deffo tall :)

    👀 wow...
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  • Guthix_of_the_Green
    They are not short enough if you ask me. If there was a gnome race , i'd play it in a heartbeat
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  • Chaos2088
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    Well I bet in the future there will be more races to play.....I do doubt gnomes lol But hey there are others places on Nirn and Mundus so never say never.
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