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Dear ZOS: List of Overdue QoL improvements

MornaBaine
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The purpose of this is to point out easy things that CAN be done and therefore really SHOULD be done by now.

1. Hide shoulders toggle. You already have the ability to do this. So do it already. We’ve been asking for years.

2. Eyelashes for men...that DON’T make them look like drag queens. Our lads have been lashless freaks long enough. You’ve already MADE the perfect manly lashes here:

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Now just give them to us in black! Easy peasy! And if you really want to go the extra mile...figure out how to make them a separate layer from facial hair so we don't have to choose between eyelashes and a beard! I have faith in you! You can do it!

3. Allow us to dye adornments. You were finally able to do it for weapons. Adornments is not a huge stretch. It's just silly that your hair color dictates what color your jewelry is!

4. Separate lip colors and eye makeup in character creation. Let us mix and match! Go ahead and sell it to us just like you did the ability to change hairstyles. So we can change it up at will.

5. Unlock all hair colors and offer them in a pack as well. In a world full of magic, I’m pretty sure hair dye is a thing. There’s no logical reason to restrict hair color by race.

6. Offer all the costumes NPCs are wearing in Wrothgar! We’ve waited for these long enough!

7. Add a day/night toggle to housing! You already have the ability. Please make it available to players!

8. Make all the original hairstyles useable for males or females, not just a select few.

9. Sell us a collection of eyelashes useable by male and female characters.

10. Sell us many more lip color options but instead of the crazy heavy colors you’ve offered so far, give us a range of more natural colors. Male vampires tired of their gray lips will thank you!

11. Sell us the ability to TURN OFF the vampire skin. There are no logical arguments for forcing us to have it.

12. Give werewolves a toggle for their wolf form that confers no abilities. Once I would have said I don’t want to see a bunch of transformed werewolves running everywhere but with the plethora of freakish and outlandish skins and transmogs you’ve already made available there’s really no reason NOT to do this.

13. More sitting emotes for chairs please! We see all these NPCs with different sitting emotes and we still only get ONE. SURELY you can figure this out! Even if it's just a /sitchair2, /sitchair3 thing though it would be great if we could choose our emote with furniture as well!

15. And last but not least...a ghost skin that affects clothing. This is another thing you’ve already done. This is the High Wrothgar Mint from the winter event. Sadly, it only lasts a few moments. I’d be happy if you just gave us a persistent version of this! But I know you can do actual ghosts as well...just please don’t make them a weird color like some. Keep them white/gray!

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Edited by MornaBaine on July 29, 2020 1:16AM
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  • mzprx
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    all i want from this game are... pet skins. oh, how i'd love to play my magSorc again, but i can't stand the sight of either the scamp or the "flappy thing". so i don't play my main character any more in PvE. only in PvP. i mean, would that be THAT hard to do? we already have a ton of pet scamps, just let us select one of them as the Familiar skill and a lot of magSorcs would be over the Moon..
  • Guyle
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    None of these are really QoL things.....
  • Lady_Sleepless
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    All of these should be in the game, they are all very attainable.
  • Nairinhe
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    6. Offer all the costumes NPCs are wearing in Wrothgar! We’ve waited for these long enough!

    8. Make all the original hairstyles useable for males or females, not just a select few.

    Special yes! to these two
  • Anumaril
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    I was expecting to disagree with some points on here, and while some of them I find vastly less important than others, I find myself agreeing with the whole list.
  • TwinLamps
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    More stash space
    Awake, but at what cost
  • Kittytravel
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    The purpose of this is to point out easy things that CAN be done and therefore really SHOULD be done by now.

    1. Hide shoulders toggle. You already have the ability to do this. So do it already. We’ve been asking for years.

    5. Unlock all hair colors and offer them in a pack as well. In a world full of magic, I’m pretty sure hair dye is a thing. There’s no logical reason to restrict hair color by race.

    13. More sitting emotes for chairs please! We see all these NPCs with different sitting emotes and we still only get ONE. SURELY you can figure this out! Even if it's just a /sitchair2, /sitchair3 thing though it would be great if we could choose our emote with furniture as well!

    Pitching in to say these 3 are what I most agree with as they all are by fair more readily available. Especially
    the hide shoulders thing. Instead people make that "Hide any armor" because man is it just freaking annoying getting handed tattoo's out the woohaa and not being able to use the damn things because armor covers everything up.
  • idk
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    What surprised me is hiding shoulders made the list but hiding hip flaps that has been a request since shortly after the game launched was completely ignored. There is a whole slew of QoL things that are much more important than a number of items here. I am not saying these things should not happen, just a lot of things should happen before some of them.
  • SickleCider
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    Guyle wrote: »
    None of these are really QoL things.....

    Yeah, I'm not sure a lot of people know what it means when people talk about QoL features. These are mostly character customization things. Fine things to ask for, but not QoL. It may seem semantic, but it's an important distinction if you're someone that's pushing for QoL improvements.

    QoL, afaik: features that affect the way a player interfaces with the game, ensuring ease of use, accessibility, and concerning an ethical consideration for the player's time. Example: being able to refine multiple 10 stacks of materials was a QoL feature that added ease of use and considered the player's time.

    Totally agree about the eyelashes, by the way.
    Edited by SickleCider on July 29, 2020 9:07AM
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  • Coopersnow
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    None of these are QoL at all. It's just things that could be added to costumes and visuals.
  • Sarannah
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    Not bad ideas at all, but those are not QoL features. Especially would love a day/night function for houses, my house is best viewed at night, so 100% nighttime would be best for me.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/539103/quality-of-life-request-thread#latest
  • BisDasBlutGefriert
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    Nice list! I agree with a few of the others here, not exactly QoL things, but would be nice to have character customization wise for sure!!!

    Speaking of QoL things, I still have some empty, and some full "lesser soul gems" in my bank. Haha! Can anybody else remember those? Soul gem size used to be dependent on what level your equipment was that needed charging. If I'm not mistaken, lesser soul gems were for charging equipment level 40 and under. If you used it on anything higher, it would hardly give you any charge at all.
    Another QoL thing added; remember enchanting nodes? It was darn near impossible to find any blue glowing enchanting nodes out in the field cause those were most sought after. There was blue glowing nodes, yellow nodes and red nodes back then. Now, you get a mix of colors in one enchanting node.

    For me; QoL would be something like account wide mount training. Or the two examples I mentioned above, with now just having one type of soul gem, and one type of enchanting node. Like what they did with soul gems; why not do that same thing with repair kits? Only have one size that fully repairs all equipment?
    Edited by BisDasBlutGefriert on July 29, 2020 9:52AM
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  • caperb
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    #1 on the list should be (PvP) performance
  • Benawaw89
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    aoe cooldown will fix all of this issue!!
  • Internet_Mask
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    The ability to hide shoulders, hip flaps and crotch flaps.

    Also the addition of a crafting pattern that allows us to make placeable water for our homes.
    Edited by Internet_Mask on July 29, 2020 1:58PM
  • MornaBaine
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    The ability to hide shoulders, hip flaps and crotch flaps.

    Also the addition of a crafting pattern that allows us to make placeable water for our homes.

    The only reason I didn't add the hip and crotch flaps (for I hate them too!) is because that hasn't already been coded, whereas we know the ability to hide shoulders has been. Shoulders occupy their own slot whereas the hip and crotch flaps have been designed as part of the leg armor. And not all pieces have them. Therefore the coding would be more complex. The point of this list was to highlight things they could easily do at the snap of their fingers if they could be bothered. The possible exception being the separation of lip color and eye makeup...but that's one of my personal pet peeves. LOL

    As for those who have said this list isn't QoL... it is if you look at it from the perspective of our characters. I really do think our dudes would feel their quality of life had been improved if they could finally have eyelashes! LOL
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  • Eirikir
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    All I want is a housing item that lets me transform into a werewolf indefinitely in the player house zone. And dont sell it to me, gift it for ww lv10. And make one for the vampire's too.
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    Race: Nord (Lycanthrope)
    Class: Dragonknight (Range DPS)
    Playstyle: Crafter, PVE, PVP, Roleplayer
  • LightningWitch
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    I'm going to hijack this thread and list real QoL issues.

    Please put what we need to craft INSIDE the crafting window.
    No one should have to memorize what they're doing, no matter how long they've been playing the game.

    Please fix the Leads in safeboxes with "Take All"
    If I get a bounty from this one more time...

    Please fix the ZoSMath™ for Perfect Roe
    Two patches/release ago, the math was changed. No one should have to filet 1000 fish and end up with nothing. No one.

    Please fix the ZoSMath™ for Simple chests and safeboxes
    Breaking 7 picks in a row on something rated with a 75% success rate is ridiculous.

    FOR THE LOVE OF PATIENCE WORLDWIDE, PLEASE REMOVE THE CONFIRMATION OF SELLING BLUE+ ITEMS TO FENCES.
    These have no purpose in the game and I can't imagine anyone would keep them since they can't be locked.

    Please remove the 35% take from Pirharri and make her useful.
    Even thieves find this rate atrocious.

    Please, please, please, please, and PLEASE find some way to allow us to sort our armor/weapons by trait so we're not having to keep a spreadsheet offline to figure out what needs to be researched. Bonus: allow us to sort by weight, then trait. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE STOP ORDERING ALPHABETICALLY, WHICH PUTS WEIGHTS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON EVERY LIST IN THE GAME.
    I'm begging here.

    Once a DLC has run its course, please remove all the ridiculous time extensions used to "extend" the DLC playtime
    For example, remove a few daily quests from Clockwork City which sends us into the depths of hell to retrieve some sap in a chest intentionally put as far back in the delve as possible, into a corner guarded by 1.5 million NPCs on the way to it.

    Time is precious when we're trying to get the zones and dailies done and you guys just keep churning out content every 3 months.

    When is the Skeleton Key making its way into the game?
    Not the decoration. A usable one!

    Please provide us a "Favorites" listing so we can mark items to the top of our inventory list. Frankly, 6 damn years of having to scroll near the bottom of the list to get my repair kits is inexcusable
    While I'm on lists...

    Please fix the order of armor and weapon options. 99% of players will either be repairing or charging, yet these options are buried under uselessness of "Unequip" and "Link in Chat" which sit atop the list.
    Damn it. I just linked this request in chat.

    PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE FIND SOME WAY TO ADD A "CLICK TO LOCK" ON THE D-PAD WHEEL. THE MOVEMENT IS HORRENDOUS AND THE DIAGONALS ARE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SELECT WHEN IN BATTLE.
    And speaking of d-pad...

    IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN MOVE THE RIDICULOUS WEAPON SWAPPING LEFT D-PAD TO ANY OTHER BUTTON THAT MAKES LOGICAL SENSE THAN FORCING US TO REMOVE OUR THUMB FROM THE MOVEMENT STICK. THERE'S A REASON WHY MOST OTHER GAMES USE THE "Y" BUTTON AND I KNOW THIS IS A SPELL BUTTON, BUT PLEASE FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
    And I know what that is...

    PLEASE REMOVE THE RIDICULOUSNESS THAT IS WEAVING FROM THE GAME. IT'S A BROKEN MECHANIC, IS BORNE OF IMPROPER GAME DESIGN, AND MOST USERS HAVE DIFFICULTY DOING IT WHILE TRYING TO MAINTAIN A ROTATION
    Not only has this ridiculous mechanic brought us the growing "elitism" in the game, it's been broken since day 1. The mechanic was never mentioned upon release, and it only started to take off when players realized they can do it.

    Don't believe me? Go watch Deltia's video 6 years ago and watch how he presents the news: not based on information from the game, but as a discovery.

    Moreso, ZoS didn't even add the tip to this mechanic for 3 years.

    It's a dead mechanic and it needs to be removed, please.
    Edited by LightningWitch on July 29, 2020 6:01PM
  • HiLyfe808
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    idk wrote: »
    What surprised me is hiding shoulders made the list but hiding hip flaps that has been a request since shortly after the game launched was completely ignored. There is a whole slew of QoL things that are much more important than a number of items here. I am not saying these things should not happen, just a lot of things should happen before some of them.

    This more than anything else. A lot of the chest styles are nice but i refuse to wear them cause the hip pads and flaps ruin it.
  • MornaBaine
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    HiLyfe808 wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    What surprised me is hiding shoulders made the list but hiding hip flaps that has been a request since shortly after the game launched was completely ignored. There is a whole slew of QoL things that are much more important than a number of items here. I am not saying these things should not happen, just a lot of things should happen before some of them.

    This more than anything else. A lot of the chest styles are nice but i refuse to wear them cause the hip pads and flaps ruin it.

    I agree that most of them are awful. I have no idea why it's such a prevalent design. Especially the hip flaps. They're horrid. And I absolutely agree they should be removed. Ditto the weird Hussar-like wings on my two otherwise favorite armors, Trinimac and Welknyr. They really should be optional somehow! Because while I know some people like them I feel they absolutely ruin the look of the armors they're on. But, again, this fix is not as easy as the option to hide shoulders.
    Edited by MornaBaine on July 30, 2020 12:14AM
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  • LadyLethalla
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    Not really QoL but I want to add PLEASE give us the option of making a NON SHINY outfit if it's NOT heavy armour, and probably an option to have a dulled finish if it is heavy armour. I don't need or want my character to look like what she's wearing is made of foiled vinyl or satin, I would like more natural-appearing cloth like IRL. Dull, like cotton. Or even maybe a slight sheen like velvet.

    I would also like to add my voice to the many excellent suggestions by @LightningWitch - although I have to point out re your issue with weapon swapping, this can be resolved with a remappable controller. I bought my Rajen PS4 controller specifically for weapon swapping and potion use, mainly for VMA and it has helped enormously - I can't use the generic PS controller any more.

    Edit:
    One more thing I would really like, that IS a QoL - LOADOUTS. Even if you sold them in the Crown Store. I don't want to have to spend half an hour or more swapping armour, skills and CP around because I'm doing BGs instead of PVE, etc.
    Edited by LadyLethalla on July 30, 2020 4:58AM
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  • Elsonso
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    I'm going to hijack this thread and list real QoL issues.

    Please put what we need to craft INSIDE the crafting window.
    No one should have to memorize what they're doing, no matter how long they've been playing the game.

    Holy Buckets, YES. I don't know if ZOS just doesn't have a UX person, or whether they finally told them that if they brought up usability problems one more time, they would be fired. Any UX person that was worth it would have been fired, by the way. :smile:


    Solid lists. Both sorts of QoL.
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  • Kadoin
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    caperb wrote: »
    #1 on the list should be (PvP) performance

    #1 for me is bringing back Arch-mage :D
  • TineaCruris
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    How about they make things work like they did three years ago? ...when things actually worked.

    We are all homeless right now. Gots to build the house back up before we can even discuss any other quality of life improvements.
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