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Mounted Combat?
Scion_of_Yggdrasil
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With talk about the new group mount, and even discussion of flying mounts, can we talk about something else that is missing? Combat while mounted!
Why isnt it a thing? Can it be a thing? I personally think it SHOULD be a thing. How would you like to see it implemented? Or would you, even?
I don't think it needs to be anything crazy, or elaborate. Maybe only allow the use of weapons while mounted? PvP-wise, any grounded players would have access to their skill bar, giving them the better advantage. Maybe even add a penalty for "falling off your mount" while in combat, a very short stun period, where you get off the ground.
Overland, it would make venturing through hostile territory less... idk... annoying? Lots of us just run straight past monsters because we don't want to deal with them. But if I could flip around backwards on my direwolf and shoot my bow at the monsters chasing me?! I would engage with overland monsters much more often. So how do we make this happen?
1) Weapons cannot be used while sprinting.
2) Players, and monsters, need to be able to separately target players vs mounts.
3) Either only allow players to face forward, or animate a short jump where players will flip around and ride backwards if they aim backward.
4) You cannot use abilities, or maybe they can only be used while standing still? Maybe only class abilities?
I miss shooting my bow while mounted (Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild/Skyrim) and I've always felt like ESO would work well with mounted combat. Our characters already rotate their waste when running/walking during combat, so why can't we do it on our valiant mounts?
Why isnt it a thing? Can it be a thing? I personally think it SHOULD be a thing. How would you like to see it implemented? Or would you, even?
I don't think it needs to be anything crazy, or elaborate. Maybe only allow the use of weapons while mounted? PvP-wise, any grounded players would have access to their skill bar, giving them the better advantage. Maybe even add a penalty for "falling off your mount" while in combat, a very short stun period, where you get off the ground.
Overland, it would make venturing through hostile territory less... idk... annoying? Lots of us just run straight past monsters because we don't want to deal with them. But if I could flip around backwards on my direwolf and shoot my bow at the monsters chasing me?! I would engage with overland monsters much more often. So how do we make this happen?
1) Weapons cannot be used while sprinting.
2) Players, and monsters, need to be able to separately target players vs mounts.
3) Either only allow players to face forward, or animate a short jump where players will flip around and ride backwards if they aim backward.
4) You cannot use abilities, or maybe they can only be used while standing still? Maybe only class abilities?
I miss shooting my bow while mounted (Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild/Skyrim) and I've always felt like ESO would work well with mounted combat. Our characters already rotate their waste when running/walking during combat, so why can't we do it on our valiant mounts?
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Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Implementing this could break so many things *_*
Just imagine all the buggy possibilities...
But yes, killing mobs (and picking nodes and containers!) without dismounting would be nice. Or fishing!3 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It'd make the anti-cavalry caltrops actually useful if mounted combat was a thing. I've always wanted my magDK to go into battle on the back of their flame atronach wolf since it'd be so awesome! Also horse archers, mages on horseback, templars couching their spears for a charge attack, and other such things could become a possibility.PC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK1 -
Scion_of_Yggdrasil✭✭✭✭✭Implementing this could break so many things *_*
Just imagine all the buggy possibilities...
But yes, killing mobs (and picking nodes and containers!) without dismounting would be nice. Or fishing!
Oh, dont be such a worry wart. Lol
I would actually argue against nodes and containers while mounted. Is my horse supposed to use its hooves to knock the ore loose? Is my direwolf supposed to politely bend down and pick alchemical ingredients for me? .... actually, that would be kinda cool/cute, but Id still find it silly lol.1 -
Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »Implementing this could break so many things *_*
Just imagine all the buggy possibilities...
But yes, killing mobs (and picking nodes and containers!) without dismounting would be nice. Or fishing!
Oh, dont be such a worry wart. Lol
I would actually argue against nodes and containers while mounted. Is my horse supposed to use its hooves to knock the ore loose? Is my direwolf supposed to politely bend down and pick alchemical ingredients for me? .... actually, that would be kinda cool/cute, but Id still find it silly lol.
Your pet picks it up and hands it to you, of course! Did you know that echalette can jump to twice the height of a horse or that an average nixad can carry three chunks of ore?
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Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭People might not like what I want, but I think the direction to go in should be doing stuff with enemies that isn't combat. I think we got enough ways to beat up stuff.0 -
Scion_of_Yggdrasil✭✭✭✭✭Scion_of_Yggdrasil wrote: »Implementing this could break so many things *_*
Just imagine all the buggy possibilities...
But yes, killing mobs (and picking nodes and containers!) without dismounting would be nice. Or fishing!
Oh, dont be such a worry wart. Lol
I would actually argue against nodes and containers while mounted. Is my horse supposed to use its hooves to knock the ore loose? Is my direwolf supposed to politely bend down and pick alchemical ingredients for me? .... actually, that would be kinda cool/cute, but Id still find it silly lol.
Your pet picks it up and hands it to you, of course! Did you know that echalette can jump to twice the height of a horse or that an average nixad can carry three chunks of ore?
OMG my lil gryphon handing me flowers with his beak. Where do I sign?Red_Feather wrote: »People might not like what I want, but I think the direction to go in should be doing stuff with enemies that isn't combat. I think we got enough ways to beat up stuff.
Care to elaborate? Because my favorite part of this game is the domestic activities. Crafting. Housing. Adventuring. Taking loads of unnecessary screen shots every time I find a nice rock and the light shines through the trees just right...1 -
Mitrenga✭✭✭✭✭Let's focus on fixing unmounted combat first. Skills that do not go off and things like that.2 -
Scion_of_Yggdrasil✭✭✭✭✭Let's focus on fixing unmounted combat first. Skills that do not go off and things like that.
Thanks for that feedback! But as you read, this thread is about mounted combat. So why not go find one of the countless threads about performance, and share your thoughts there
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[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by ZOS_ConnorG on July 24, 2020 6:45PM1 -
itscompton✭✭✭✭✭
✭I've always thought being mounted should have it's own skill bar for Rapids and then the Devs could choose which other skills would be allowed to be used while mounted. Also make mounting in combat a 2 second channel so you can get easily interrupted but still possible. Would actually make Adept Rider something other than a trash set.0 -
SickleCider✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I want this so badly. On top of it being HECKING AMAZING, it'd make things like managing mount stamina actually matter. ZOS, you wanna slow mounts down? This is how you do it.
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Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭redgreensunset wrote: »The only thing I want less than this is flying mounts.
This.0 -
Scion_of_Yggdrasil✭✭✭✭✭redgreensunset wrote: »The only thing I want less than this is flying mounts.
Mounted... flying..... combat. The trifecta that shook all of Tamriel.
On that note...... I would die to fly, and shoot my bow at enemies below..............0