Recipe Learned/Not Showing Up When Crafting

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

I am at a loss for words....

I grinded out some antiquities for a quick 28K gold (and some antiquities XP, 2 birds, 1 stone) so I could buy a Psijic Ambrosia recipe I saw in the guild trader. Bought it. Learned it. First milestone complete. Time for bed.

Next day I'm grinding out provisioning. At level 50 now (wow, that took like 5 minutes lol). Then sped through a few quick dungeons, to buy some mats and pay to re-allocate my skill points (invested in clothing, but swapped that out for provisioning so I can craft psijic ambrosia). By this point, I have spent 2 days working towards a specific goal, I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, I am very excited...
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I get to my provisioning station.... I cannot craft Psijic Ambrosia. Its as though I never learned the recipe... LET ME CLARIFY: Proper level, check. Materials, check. Proper skill points, check. So I go to the guild trader again, find another recipe, to confirm it says "already in your library," but to my horror and dismay... it says I need to use to add to my library...

I do not have video proof of this since, as I stated above, I used the recipe the night before, then noticed the issue next day. I do admit, I thought it was weird that it let me learn the recipe, since I wasnt the proper provisioning level yet (and crafting motifs require passives), but it didnt dawn on me at the moment since it was late (spent a decent chunk of time tracking down antiquities) and I was just excited to complete that nights goal: buy the recipe and learn it, log off.

Has this happened to anyone else before? Is there any way Devs can prove my claim? I already deleted the item purchased mail -_- ya know, since I claimed the item and used it.

A friend loaned me some gold since that other recipe was available, and after purchasing it and using it, I can now craft psijic ambrosia. I would say alls well that ends well except... Im still pretty livid all my time/gold was just stomped on.

TLDR: I purchased a recipe, I learned it (got the visual and text confirmation that I learned the recipe), theeeen leveled provisioning, then reallocated skill points for the required passives, but could not craft the recipe (was not in my library). I purchased the recipe again, and can now craft Psijic Ambrosia.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

Oh, and no, it wasn't a single page of the recipe, it was the fully assembled, actual recipe.

Wavek · July 2020

Do you have the necessary materials to craft it and/or have you disabled the filter that hides recipes if you dont have the required materials?

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

Wavek wrote: »

Do you have the necessary materials to craft it and/or have you disabled the filter that hides recipes if you dont have the required materials?

Yes. I had all the necessary skill points spent, I had all the necessary materials, I toggled filters on and off, I tried various provisioning stations. I. Had. Everything. As soon as I bought ANOTHER recipe, and learned it, I could then craft it immediately.

I have ESO+ so I have been hoarding all my provisioning mats for the day I would grind it out and level it to 50, and I have been saving up my Perfect Roe, and only had to purchase the Frost Mirriam and Bervez Juice. Will also clarify again it was not a recipe fragment, I purchased the fully assembled, actual, Psijic Ambrosia recipe. It bought the thing, I read the thing, ooh la la, I learned the recipe, it disappeared from my inventory. Nothing out of the ordinary until I went to actually craft the thing next day after, like I mentioned, I finished leveling provisioning, reallocated my skill points from clothing to provisioning, and purchased the remaining ingredients.

Thank you for double checking I guess??? But as I said in OP: "LET ME CLARIFY: Proper level, check. Materials, check. Proper skill points, check."

mikikatze · July 2020

You did not by accident combine it to make some other ambrosia recipe?

Wavek · July 2020

mikikatze wrote: »

You did not by accident combine it to make some other ambrosia recipe?

The only other thing I can think of is the other two ambrosias. I would think the two blue recipe's that are also 'psijic' would be harder to do accidentally.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

Trust me guys, I have went through all of this already and I bought, without a doubt, the standard Psijic Ambrosia recipe. Not fragments, not any other variation. I did my research and didn't want to have to spend bookoo gold or do master writs for the mats required for aetherial, etc. so I intended, and I did, purchase the standard, fully assembled, ready to learn, recipe. Like I said, I even saw the text at the top right of my screen confirming I learned the new recipe. Since I wasn't the proper level yet, nor did I have the mats, I left it at that and logged off.

And I'm the type that will stare for a solid 3 seconds before hitting "purchase" because I'll be darned if I accidentally buy something I don't intend to. I'm clearly literate... I didn't purchase something different by mistake, learn it from my inventory, and think it was Psijic Ambrosia.

I learned it. Said a little yippee, and logged off. Then next day... the divines squatted on all my hard work and... you get the idea.

mikikatze · July 2020

And you are sure you did it on the right character? If yes, and no other chars know it, open a ticket for ZOS.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

mikikatze wrote: »

And you are sure you did it on the right character? If yes, and no other chars know it, open a ticket for ZOS.

Certain. I only do antiquities on one character right now.

mikikatze · July 2020

As far as I can remember, I can learn any recipes despite my level (different from motifs), so this should not be the problem? I'm pretty sure the devs have a log of purchases and whatever you did with those things, so really open a ticket soon. Good luck!

Nestor · July 2020

Wait, did you invest the point into the passive that lets you make Gold recipes?

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

Nestor wrote: »

Wait, did you invest the point into the passive that lets you make Gold recipes?

-_-

Yes. I will be submitting a ticket later. I had everything necessary: skill passives, materials, and the actual recipe.

Shadowshire · July 2020

@Scion_of_Yggdrasil

If I recall my experience correctly, then a character cannot learn a Recipe unless and until sufficient Skill Points have been allocated to the first and/or second Provisioning passive. (Similar rules also apply to learning Alchemy potions and poisons, and to learning the Glyphs that a character can make with the Enchanting crafting station.)

If the game software allowed your character to learn the Psijic Ambrosia recipe before sufficient Skill Points were allocated to the first and second Provisioning passives, then that appears to me to be a bug in the current software. It should not allow a character to "learn" a Provisioning recipe which the character cannot craft at the time which the player's character attempts to learn how to do that. That should not happen. Period.

Note: If your character learns a Recipe while enough Skill Points are allocated to the necessary Crafting passive(s), and you subsequently choose to de-allocate those Skill Points, then the character does not "forget" what they learned. Of course, the character cannot craft a food or beverage while Skill Points are not allocated to the required Crafting passives, regardless of whether the character has learned the Recipe for that item.

katanagirl1 · July 2020

I’m certain that my alts learned many purple and some gold recipes before I gave them enough skill points to craft them. The requirements that they were unable to meet were in red instead of green.

redgreensunset · July 2020

Shadowshire wrote: »

@Scion_of_Yggdrasil

If I recall my experience correctly, then a character cannot learn a Recipe unless and until sufficient Skill Points have been allocated to the first and/or second Provisioning passive. (Similar rules also apply to learning Alchemy potions and poisons, and to learning the Glyphs that a character can make with the Enchanting crafting station.)

If the game software allowed your character to learn the Psijic Ambrosia recipe before sufficient Skill Points were allocated to the first and second Provisioning passives, then that appears to me to be a bug in the current software. It should not allow a character to "learn" a Provisioning recipe which the character cannot craft at the time which the player's character attempts to learn how to do that. That should not happen. Period.

Note: If your character learns a Recipe while enough Skill Points are allocated to the necessary Crafting passive(s), and you subsequently choose to de-allocate those Skill Points, then the character does not "forget" what they learned. Of course, the character cannot craft a food or beverage while Skill Points are not allocated to the required Crafting passives, regardless of whether the character has learned the Recipe for that item.

Incorrect. A character can learn recipes of any level and difficulty redgardless of points invested in anything or lack of them. Source? Me just having slow levelled three characters through provisions and having learned both blue and purple recipes on them withouthaving any skill points invested in anything. Only thing that happens is that you're barred from using them.
Not saying it wasn't lkke this once but this is not true of at least the last 4-5 months.

Scion_of_Yggdrasil · July 2020

redgreensunset wrote: »

Shadowshire wrote: »

@Scion_of_Yggdrasil

If I recall my experience correctly, then a character cannot learn a Recipe unless and until sufficient Skill Points have been allocated to the first and/or second Provisioning passive. (Similar rules also apply to learning Alchemy potions and poisons, and to learning the Glyphs that a character can make with the Enchanting crafting station.)

If the game software allowed your character to learn the Psijic Ambrosia recipe before sufficient Skill Points were allocated to the first and second Provisioning passives, then that appears to me to be a bug in the current software. It should not allow a character to "learn" a Provisioning recipe which the character cannot craft at the time which the player's character attempts to learn how to do that. That should not happen. Period.

Note: If your character learns a Recipe while enough Skill Points are allocated to the necessary Crafting passive(s), and you subsequently choose to de-allocate those Skill Points, then the character does not "forget" what they learned. Of course, the character cannot craft a food or beverage while Skill Points are not allocated to the required Crafting passives, regardless of whether the character has learned the Recipe for that item.

Incorrect. A character can learn recipes of any level and difficulty redgardless of points invested in anything or lack of them. Source? Me just having slow levelled three characters through provisions and having learned both blue and purple recipes on them withouthaving any skill points invested in anything. Only thing that happens is that you're barred from using them.
Not saying it wasn't lkke this once but this is not true of at least the last 4-5 months.

I can personally attest to learning higher level recipes than I have the passives for. Which is why I went ahead and learned the recipe on the spot, instead of putting it into storage.

I did submit a bug report, but im not holding my breath

im mainly upset that I spent 28K for the recipe, only for it to not be added to my library. Irony is a cruel prankster too... when I repurchased the recipe, I found it for cheaper... 25K lol just my luck