Thrassian Stranglers stopping fishing for it got nerf to the ground

YandereGirlfriend · July 2020

This item got full "Asylum Destro'd" from the Greymoor patch.

Hopefully, like the Asylum Destro the changes will either NOT go live or will be reverted in the next patch!

5cript · July 2020

I am sad, but its healthier for the game!
The item was bonkers. And without the time limit, they'd still be extremely good.

what_the · July 2020

Kittytravel wrote: »

The 30 second duration is only bad because it requires landing a KB. If the KB requirement was removed and instead became "On assist" then this would still be a viable piece....

QFT

Raudgrani · July 2020

5cript wrote: »

I am sad, but its healthier for the game!
The item was bonkers. And without the time limit, they'd still be extremely good.

Yes either of it, the lower max stack damage or the 30 second duration - fine with either of it. But this? Well, it's still a nice set, but its usefulness becomes even more situational, and viable for even less content. It's really typical though, this way they always do things. I mean, people DO farm certain sets and such for a reason. To drastically change them is a bad idea, it just is.

The change to Undaunted Infiltrator is just the same, just as an example. WHY on earth go about and change a set that old, now all suddenly? I farmed a shock staff which took me like +80 solo runs in Arx Corinium. Now it will be next to useless because they "adjust" the set to their liking? NO ONE used it, except those doing like a heavy attack pet sorc build like mine. NO ONE have been crying and hoping for it to change this way, all they do is ruin the build of everyone currently using it; no stamina build will use it - it's used on shock staff builds, because the damage applies to every tick of the heavy attack. There's no stamina heavy attacking that benefits from it the same way...

Kurat · July 2020

Lmfao, well done Zos. I expected nothing less from you.

ccfeeling · July 2020

Once everyone buy this chapter / DLC , ZOS nerf the item set again , it happened so many times .

Stam may feel happy now , back to the stamnecro trial .

Kadoin · July 2020

"Oh no! My easy mode button got turned off"

- Everyone angry about this change

You all knew that it was OP and a nerf was coming when the set was not only broken in PvP, but also PvE. Stop pretending that set was balanced when it gave more stats than ANY OTHER set in the game and was a 1-piece. More stats than 2 5-set pieces and had little downside to its application.

You know, a set might be OP and get a nerf if the following is true, more of the following increases the chance of it getting nerfed:

(a) The set cannot be replaced with any other set
(b) The set offers more raw stats than any other set
(c) The set has an artificial downside that does not actually matter when considering application of said set
(d) The set causes a balance problem between players on its own
(e) The set completely outclasses any other set available, whether its mathematically or through application

Following those guidelines can help you predict what would be nerfed.

When even Arch-mage had to be nerfed recently, how can anyone defend Stragglers?

hamgatan · July 2020

*goes to unslot Ball of Lightning now..*

SickleCider · July 2020

I expected these to get adjusted, but this seems very extreme.

volkeswagon · July 2020

Why don't they have a mythical item that kills everything just by dancing

adilazimdegilx · July 2020

This is an amazing and well deserved nerf. I wasnt sure about how to nerf this because just lowering the numbers wouldnt really work, it would be still best in slot for every mage. But 30 seconds touch solves the problem. And put it back to same level as other Mytics where their down sides actually matters. (Maybe except Malacath)
Great job, ZoS. Truly.

daemondamian · July 2020

I've been spending a few hours a day for almost 2 weeks now farming the lead for my third pair of TS in Summerset from psijic portals without any success.

In the back of my mind I've been thinking that by the time I finally get that lead, that TS will have been nerfed and looks like I was right! lol

At least there's no point now in spending all my time trying to get the lead except to complete the codex which I'm not sure i can be bothered with.

Is the wild hunt ring next?

thorwyn · July 2020

Kadoin wrote: »

"Oh no! My easy mode button got turned off"

- Everyone angry about this change

No, that's not what people are complaining about.
People are complaining about the entire process.

ZOS introduced an item, which looked strong on paper and was a potential alternative to break up the rigid 5-5-2 setups. They imbedded said item into the new antiquities system and locked it behind a chunky wall of grinding. Then, just two months later - some players are not even done grinding - they decided that they made an oopsie and nerfed the item. But they did not tone it down. They are not even trying to keep the item worth thinking about, they are not even trying to follow their intention to implement a valid alterntaive to traditional setups. They changed it from being op straight into the realm of uselessness. And that's what happens each and every time this "combat balance team" is being unleashed to rush through the meta like a bunch of juvenile rhinos on steroids.

Hapexamendios · July 2020

Well, back to my 5-5-2. Way to take the item and gut it. It's high risk/ high reward and that's what made is fun. The new stats are unappealing. An unnecessary move imo.

DUTCH_REAPER · July 2020

ZOS “we are introducing mythic items! These items are rare pieces with special attributes”

Me- I got Thrassians!!!! I do lots of damage but take a crap load of damage and can’t heal for crap!

ZOS- yeah that piece is worthless now but please count on us to bring you other mythic items that we will probably make useless as well because hey. We wouldn’t want a mythic item to be like...mythic right.

ccfeeling · July 2020

High risk high return , 40 percent drawback to healing taken , damage taken and shield size , it's pretty fair .

If you feel those youtubers play so easy in VMA with Thrassian Stranglers , you should try by yourself .

ZOS , don't just focus the results from target dummy and end game level youtubers ...

LuxLunae · July 2020

IF you enter the oblivion gates, it is said that the stats will be restored. As it was nerfed to oblivion.

Grianasteri · July 2020

The stranglers were utterly OP.

I ran in vet HM dungeon content with two dps wearing them, stuff melted, like literally melted in seconds when they were both at full stacks, including bosses and we were effectively able to skip almost every boss mechanic.

That's broken. A nerf seemed inevitable, as my group discussed and agreed the first time we ran like this.

BazOfWar · July 2020

Does not surprise me in the slightest, game devs are renound for this kind of thing.

They use shinies like this to sell a product then totally destroy them.

Stahlor · July 2020

It is not a nerf, this set is useless now. Nobody cares about that set in normal/vet dungeons, since everything melts there anyway. The 30 seconds now makes this set completely useless in raids and arenas.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO · July 2020

A dozen sets got buffed, many cry about an overpowered set that was bugged to boot.... (ball of lighting).

BalticBlues · July 2020

ZOS wrote:

Thrassian Stranglers:
Reduced the Spell Damage granted per stack to 92, down from 150.

This is a -40% nerf which is massive.
ZOS, as the only nerf, this could be ok.
However, combined with more nerfs this could be too much.

ZOS wrote:

Thrassian Stranglers:
The stacks from this set now last 30 seconds and refresh every time you gain a stack, rather than being permanent.

This makes the set worthless in every boss fight and PvP.
Thrassian Stranglers would be the only mystic set where people LOSE MORE than they gain by wearing it.
ZOS, this makes no sense at all. Please delete this nerf, otherwise you can just delete the entire set from the table.

Zer0_CooL · July 2020

3k spell damage was way too much. So please stop all the complains only because the P2W gets canceled.

Stahlor · July 2020

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

3k spell damage was way too much. So please stop all the complains only because the P2W gets canceled.

Have you ever really tried it? Maybe without PC cheating add-ons? On console it is very hard to handle and only the best of the best might be able to use it. I cannot see why this should be p2w.

Mettaricana · July 2020

When that many people flocked to a single item it was bound to be nerfed.

Zer0_CooL · July 2020

@Stahlor

I play on console, and my coment was in regard to PvP, where you dont rely on 3rd party heal.

kathandira · July 2020

I'm cool with all the Thrassian changes, except the duration. I would love if that is reverted.

TequilaFire · July 2020

Wait till they nerf the stamina and speed mythic items as well.
Bet there will be even more tears then.

voreo · July 2020

Good less competition to knock it off the completion list for me then

Tanis-Stormbinder · July 2020

Just a shame that something so fun to run is ruined with a 30 sec refresh. We all knew that it's damage would get a correction but this is mind boggling.