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Why doesn't Caluurion's Legacy work with eviscerate or Vampiric Drain?

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SlimeBro1
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Hey all, I was wanting to ask why this set doesn't proc off of these two abilities? I crit with them and it doesn't activate. Thank you for any help.
  • mairwen85
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    It procs off critical single target damage. If those skills are single target skills (which they are), it should Proc when they crit, if not, its a bug and you should raise it as such.

    Edit to add
    There was some bugginess with bfb at release not registering on parse dummies as player applied damage. It wouldn't surprise me if this is related.
    Edited by mairwen85 on July 12, 2020 4:30AM
  • SlimeBro1
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    It procs off critical single target damage. If those skills are single target skills (which they are), it should Proc when they crit, if not, its a bug and you should raise it as such.

    Edit to add
    There was some bugginess with bfb at release not registering on parse dummies as player applied damage. It wouldn't surprise me if this is related.

    Nice! I will go make a thread over there.

    I just don't understand why vampiric drain isn't working with it tbh. So it must be a bug for sure.
  • Nemesis7884
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    first time im hearing this but havent tested - seems obviously a bug, I would open a bug report and post it in the bug section of the forum

    it COULD be that it doesnt proc from blood for blood in case the game counts this as a health ability and not a magicka ability...?

    Edited by Nemesis7884 on July 12, 2020 4:36AM
  • Moonsorrow
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    [quote="Nemesis7884;c-6857621"blood for blood in case the game counts this as a health ability and not a magicka ability...?

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    This.

    And.. to proc Caluurion, it needs to be a DIRECT crit damage. And Vampire Drain is a channel, so not a Direct damage ability (use skills that are buffed by Master At Arms, then you will proc it for sure.) :)
  • mairwen85
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    Moonsorrow wrote: »
    Nemesis7884 wrote: »
    blood for blood in case the game counts this as a health ability and not a magicka ability...?

    This.

    And.. to proc Caluurion, it needs to be a DIRECT crit damage. And Vampire Drain is a channel, so not a Direct damage ability (use skills that are buffed by Master At Arms, then you will proc it for sure.) :)

    ESO doesn't seem to have any right rules for direct damage. The first tick off some dots is direct damage for example. Biting jabs is a channel and propped by master at arms, as another.
    Edited by mairwen85 on July 12, 2020 4:52AM
  • SlimeBro1
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    Moonsorrow wrote: »
    [quote="Nemesis7884;c-6857621"blood for blood in case the game counts this as a health ability and not a magicka ability...?

    This.

    And.. to proc Caluurion, it needs to be a DIRECT crit damage. And Vampire Drain is a channel, so not a Direct damage ability (use skills that are buffed by Master At Arms, then you will proc it for sure.) :)
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    But it deals magicka damage, does it not? So it is a magic damaging ability.

    And wack, I didn't know it being a channel means it isn't a direct damage ability. Weird.
  • Moonsorrow
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    Moonsorrow wrote: »
    Nemesis7884 wrote: »
    blood for blood in case the game counts this as a health ability and not a magicka ability...?

    This.

    And.. to proc Caluurion, it needs to be a DIRECT crit damage. And Vampire Drain is a channel, so not a Direct damage ability (use skills that are buffed by Master At Arms, then you will proc it for sure.) :)

    ESO doesn't seem to have any right rules for direct damage. The first tick off some dots is direct damage for example. Biting jabs is a channel and propped by master at arms, as another.

    Yeah, some dots first tick/initial hit counts.

    Many of these can be confusing to new people especially and many proc sets has to try yourself on what they work with and cannot often trust the description of them.

    Yeah, was confusing that Sweeps/Jabs was both channel and direct damage and was earlier buffed by Thaumaturge and now Master at Arms. Yet it still kinda acts as both and sometimes not work on proc sets one would expect it to work with.

    I mean, one would assume also set like Nerien'eth to proc with Sweeps, but no matter how much spammed during testing it did not. Been a while since tested so not sure if they fixed that.

    To OP, best way to proc (especially if you are not a NB that can force crit with Cloak, that has also been buggy for some time, does not always crit with cloak also btw) Caluurion is Force Pulse/Crushing Shock.

    And since it can only proc every 10 seconds,it is best to be put on just one bar so can then proc from there as part of a burst combo at right moment instead of all the wrong moments it can proc if 5p active all the time. In pvp i mean if the initial gank does not kill the target but you end up on a longer fight, then better to be able to control the Caluurion proc time exactly when you want by having it on 1 bar only. Just use Crushing Shock at that bar to proc it, old and proven way of making it work like a charm. :p

    Edit: Farming Caluurions Inferno staff for single barring it can be rng nightmare though if not one of those lucky people who get it on their first run.

    Also, i am sad that Caluurion not work with Malacath since it needs a crit hit. Err.. i mean i am sad for a friend who would like it to work. *Cloaks away before any cheese master comments are said about Malacath and proc sets* :D


    Edited by Moonsorrow on July 12, 2020 10:25AM
  • rumple9
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    it should proc everytime with arterial burst (eviscerate morph) when under half health
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