DragonKnight Wings

regime211 · July 2020

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

ShawnLaRock · July 2020

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Achronokey · July 2020

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

regime211 · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Lol man please those wings are straight garbage 50% isn't doing much at all i rather have it deflect back like it used to. Nobody asked for the change besides NB crying because they could NOT get close to a DK yet Nb managed to get their incap stun back?

Throxx · July 2020

I could have sworn we had a pvp section of forums.

Zer0_CooL · July 2020

How about a compromise? We leave the damage morph as it is, but the other one additionaly reflects all snipes.

Edit: try to work on your moveability, get a gapcloser or increase your speed with forward momentum. Use block of sight.

Achronokey · July 2020

regime211 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Lol man please those wings are straight garbage 50% isn't doing much at all i rather have it deflect like it used to. Nobody asked for the change besides NB crying because they could NOT get close to a DK yet Nb managed to get their incap stun back?

So u want to make this skill back OP af only because u used to it? As long as we there i would like to have whirlwind in 2h line, also some actual good passives instead of what we have now. What else.. Oh yeah make fossilize to hit in aoe like talons. Why do i have to click every other man? Why venomous claws hits only 1 target when breath deals aoe? Lets make it aoe too!
Btw why 2 dual swords gives u more WD then 2H sword? If u gonna be realistic make 2H reach further atleast.

Artorias24 · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Thats not how it works....

DUTCH_REAPER · July 2020

I would be completely in love with the wing morph that is a snare removal immunity but plz for the love of god can I get a 10% increase to movement speed for a couple seconds since we are asking for a buff lol. Otherwise RaT is the clear winner.

The damage version isn’t so bad if it was on longer.

But I know snipers get mad af when they hit a DK with wings on only to see half what they usually do lol

regime211 · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Lol man please those wings are straight garbage 50% isn't doing much at all i rather have it deflect like it used to. Nobody asked for the change besides NB crying because they could NOT get close to a DK yet Nb managed to get their incap stun back?

So u want to make this skill back OP af only because u used to it? As long as we there i would like to have whirlwind in 2h line, also some actual good passives instead of what we have now. What else.. Oh yeah make fossilize to hit in aoe like talons. Why do i have to click every other man? Why venomous claws hits only 1 target when breath deals aoe? Lets make it aoe too!
Btw why 2 dual swords gives u more WD then 2H sword? If u gonna be realistic make 2H reach further atleast.

No not because I Only used to use it. Why should nightblades get their incap stun back? Yet drahonknights continue to suffer?

Achronokey · July 2020

Artorias24 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Thats not how it works....

Wut? 50+50=100. Where im wrong

regime211 · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Lol man please those wings are straight garbage 50% isn't doing much at all i rather have it deflect like it used to. Nobody asked for the change besides NB crying because they could NOT get close to a DK yet Nb managed to get their incap stun back?

So u want to make this skill back OP af only because u used to it? As long as we there i would like to have whirlwind in 2h line, also some actual good passives instead of what we have now. What else.. Oh yeah make fossilize to hit in aoe like talons. Why do i have to click every other man? Why venomous claws hits only 1 target when breath deals aoe? Lets make it aoe too!
Btw why 2 dual swords gives u more WD then 2H sword? If u gonna be realistic make 2H reach further atleast.

what you're saying is completely nonsenss whirlwind in 2h? You're acting as if wings was never a "Class" base skill for dragonknights. I'm not even going to give your comment anymore attention after how you started off.

regime211 · July 2020

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

How about a compromise? We leave the damage morph as it is, but the other one additionaly reflects all snipes.

Edit: try to work on your moveability, get a gapcloser or increase your speed with forward momentum. Use block of sight.

I'm on a mag dk so I don't use forward momentum.

regime211 · July 2020

Throxx wrote: »

I could have sworn we had a pvp section of forums.

I could have sworn you didn't have to comment if you weren't providing anything useful to the conversation.

Zer0_CooL · July 2020

regime211 wrote: »

Zer0_CooL wrote: »

How about a compromise? We leave the damage morph as it is, but the other one additionaly reflects all snipes.

Edit: try to work on your moveability, get a gapcloser or increase your speed with forward momentum. Use block of sight.

I'm on a mag dk so I don't use forward momentum.

Sorry meant Race against time.

Achronokey · July 2020

regime211 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Lol man please those wings are straight garbage 50% isn't doing much at all i rather have it deflect like it used to. Nobody asked for the change besides NB crying because they could NOT get close to a DK yet Nb managed to get their incap stun back?

So u want to make this skill back OP af only because u used to it? As long as we there i would like to have whirlwind in 2h line, also some actual good passives instead of what we have now. What else.. Oh yeah make fossilize to hit in aoe like talons. Why do i have to click every other man? Why venomous claws hits only 1 target when breath deals aoe? Lets make it aoe too!
Btw why 2 dual swords gives u more WD then 2H sword? If u gonna be realistic make 2H reach further atleast.

what you're saying is completely nonsenss whirlwind in 2h? You're acting as if wings was never a "Class" base skill for dragonknights. I'm not even going to give your comment anymore attention after how you started off.

Maybe because wings are strong skill even now? It was nerfed coz it was too op.
Im saying "nonsenss" because i want u to see yourself in a mirror. U want some skill to become better to ur benefit. I want 360 degree aoe in 2h.

Algorax · July 2020

Well, as a pvper that player both melees and ranged builds equally, i always found unfair that a skill could simply revert all your ranged damage on you simply by spending a few magika.
Removing that effect was mandatory.
It still has a reason to exist though, but only though this specific set:

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Nikulas'+Heavy+Armor+Set

which, in my opinion, could use a buff

Artorias24 · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Thats not how it works....

Wut? 50+50=100. Where im wrong

To make it simple:

10 000 damage from Frag - 50% Wings Mitigation = 5 000 - 50% from Resistance = 2 500 Damage you take.

Sanguinor2 · July 2020

Just make wings a copy of ball of lightning. Afterall an ability providing mobility, snare removal+immunity and infinite projectiles absorbed for a few seconds seems to be completely fine

Achronokey · July 2020

Artorias24 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Thats not how it works....

Wut? 50+50=100. Where im wrong

To make it simple:

10 000 damage from Frag - 50% Wings Mitigation = 5 000 - 50% from Resistance = 2 500 Damage you take.

Oh. Thanks for explanation man. But wat about minor/major protection? will that reduce dmg from 10 000 or 2 500? When does crit resist works?

Rory_FightingToFifty · July 2020

Having the wings make most every range attack useless was one of,the stupidest periods of any ability in the game, IMO. It,was dumb and it wasn’t fun.

Dracane · July 2020

Imagine having 50% more damage reduction against half the game's abilities and still you complain. If you die to a player while negating half their damage on top of your mitigations, you need to rethink.

Wings need a decent duration nerf if anything.
I still like this old idea of making them stronger, but have them lose their effect once the target comes in melee range. That would be fair.

Though I admit, Wings are almost non-toxic compared to shimmering shield and ball of lightning.

Artorias24 · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

Artorias24 wrote: »

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

Thats not how it works....

Wut? 50+50=100. Where im wrong

To make it simple:

10 000 damage from Frag - 50% Wings Mitigation = 5 000 - 50% from Resistance = 2 500 Damage you take.

Oh. Thanks for explanation man. But wat about minor/major protection? will that reduce dmg from 10 000 or 2 500? When does crit resist works?

I dont really know when wich mitigation effect is calculated. This needs to be answered by someone who deeply figured out how Damage Mitigation Math works.

Just made this simple example to understand the basics of how damage mitigation works in ESO.

Scarkii · July 2020

sorcs and warden get super strong skills that literally eat projectiles and DK are just stuck with 50% damage mitigation on wings, its great for PvE but pvp its just worthless

Zer0_CooL · July 2020

Rory_FightingToFifty wrote: »

Having the wings make most every range attack useless was one of,the stupidest periods of any ability in the game, IMO. It,was dumb and it wasn’t fun.

Most or every?! Well neither is true anyways.

Sanguinor2 · July 2020

Scarkii wrote: »

sorcs and warden get super strong skills that literally eat projectiles and DK are just stuck with 50% damage mitigation on wings, its great for PvE but pvp its just worthless

Dont forget cloak being able to make projectiles miss on demand (aka 100% damage reduction, no negative effects), if it would work as intended for once that is.

Zer0_CooL · July 2020

Dracane wrote: »

Imagine having 50% more damage reduction against half the game's abilities and still you complain. If you die to a player while negating half their damage on top of your mitigations, you need to rethink.

Wings need a decent duration nerf if anything.
I still like this old idea of making them stronger, but have them lose their effect once the target comes in melee range. That would be fair.

Though I admit, Wings are almost non-toxic compared to shimmering shield and ball of lightning.

Since when are 50% of all aviable skills projectiles? Lol thats not even the case on a mag sorc

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · July 2020

Achronokey wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

are Trash! You still take way too much damage from projectiles! And if nightblades can get their original Incap back. Why can't we get our original wings back?

im sory, 50% mitigation is not enought for ya? 50% + ur armor giving same 50% on a cap its 100%!!!! u geting 0 dmg from projectiles.

i am not having ago but my main is a dk and i play in non cp, i am maxed out in resistance and with the amount of pew pewers in pvp you can be quickly over whelmed, granted a one on one fight it is great but as of now pvp it is never one on one it norm is 5-50 on one, your wings only last 6 secs, it only needs to be down for a fraction of a sec and your done, it should be inline with cloak but then again cloak is bugged, you often find they just cloak and everything miss, i know on my nb, i can remain cloaked and attack without coming out, even if mag light is deployed it takes effect a fraction of the time and if mag light brings me out of cloak, i can re-cloak in less than a sec, mag light is to weak fyi 3 secs ingame is to short

Hotdog_23 · July 2020

Wings was a very hard counter to especially magblades. Yet cry’s about cloak are unanswered. Sure, they are a lot of counter to cloak the same as there where counter to wings. You just had to slot and use them, but people did not want to slot for them so after years wings was changed. Still we must slot counters for cloak. A lot of the counters don’t work very well because of the limited range of effectiveness and the speed nightblades can have while in cloak.

In a vacuum wing is fine but when compared to some other skills in does not compete. Namely shimmering shield and ball of lightning. Even cloak can give a 100% mitigation of projectiles.

Please add major expedition to wings for 4 seconds and take it off chains.

Be safe and have fun 😊

Karmanorway · July 2020

You already have the strongest ultimate in the game, u know the iwinbutton Leap,
aint that enough?

Nirntrotter · July 2020

Wings died for Shimmering Shield/Crystal Slab, because somehow that skill is A-OK, but wings weren't. They could've nerfed ONLY the feedback damage and/or tuned how many projectiles you can eat, or the skill cost to limit its use, but that's not how things are being balanced around here it seems.