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I have 21 Statuettes and I can barely put 1 of them in my houses.

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I appreciate them but I feel like we should be able to use them like regular furnishings.
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    Always thought they were for outside of house.
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  • PizzaCat82
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    BigM wrote: »
    Always thought they were for outside of house.

    They're the tiny ones that you'd put on a shelf. I love them but I can't use them in 90% of my houses because of the harsh limit on collectables.
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    Surely the answer is to spread things around, statues in one house, other collectibles in other houses if you want all the statues together or else spread those around. I can certainly see a problem if you want to display everything in every house.
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Surely the answer is to spread things around, statues in one house, other collectibles in other houses if you want all the statues together or else spread those around. I can certainly see a problem if you want to display everything in every house.

    I do.. but I'd like to have more leeway with these statuettes and the busts/trophies

    We should be fit more of these into our bigger houses and not have to pick and choose as much.
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    Moar housing slots for ESO+ subscribers!
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    I appreciate them but I feel like we should be able to use them like regular furnishings.

    I completely agree with @PizzaCat82

    Those are ESO+ statues, pretty sad if someone wants to show them off but they can’t 🤷🏻‍♀️

    Space for decorating houses and how they separate the limits of certain furnishings, needs to be adjusted.
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    I am GLAD they go into the collectibles slots!
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    My house is stuffed to the brim with traditional furnishings, how would I possibly fit figurines in there? Collectibles are taken up by, what? 60 busts? Leaving 50 slots or so for figurines. Maybe a couple selected trophies, but almost all are ugly, anyway.
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I am GLAD they go into the collectibles slots!
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    My house is stuffed to the brim with traditional furnishings, how would I possibly fit figurines in there? Collectibles are taken up by, what? 60 busts? Leaving 50 slots or so for figurines. Maybe a couple selected trophies, but almost all are ugly, anyway.

    There should be 51 busts and 51 trophies at the moment, if I’ve counted right. And we should have a way to display them all on top of all the statuettes and other collectible furnishings, according to ZOS’ own past actions.

    With Murkmire ZOS raised the maximum housing limits to 110 in order to accommodate all collectible furnishings at once, indicating that they’re aware some players want to display them all and are (or were) willing to make a huge exception to accommodate that desire. For all that they talk about how increasing slots threatens performance, they were willing to do it so players could display all the collectible furnishings at once, provided they had invested in both a manor and a subscription.

    The problem is that they haven’t stuck with that. Instead, they’ve substantially increased the number of collectible furnishings over the maximum limit. When they increased that cap number to 110 with Murkmire, that covered all the collectible furnishings at the time (which included the 8 storage containers). It allowed for greater justification for owning a manor and subscribing to ESO+, both substantial and optional investments in the game, since those are both required to have a cap of 110. To have made those investments and still not be able to display all of these collectibles in a single house undermined some of the value of those houses and housing perks. ZOS responded to that by raising the cap.

    Since then, we have had a slew of statuettes introduced, along with a variety of quest-themed items. In other words, they’ve completely defeated the point of raising the limit back in 2018 because even subscribers with manors are now having to make big decisions about which collectibles to display. If that choice had always been there, it would have been easy to say “ZOS intended us to have to make a choice,” and that would be something we’d have to accept, even if we kept requesting higher limits. (That’s the case with people who don’t own manors and/or don’t subscribe.) But ZOS deliberately made an exception to their policy of not raising housing limits precisely so players wouldn’t have to make a choice, if we were willing to invest — and since then they seem to have abandoned that decision and the expectations they created in making it.

    If they’re going to keep statuettes in collectibles, which is where I think they ultimately belong, the cap needs to be raised to accommodate them.
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I am GLAD they go into the collectibles slots!
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    My house is stuffed to the brim with traditional furnishings, how would I possibly fit figurines in there? Collectibles are taken up by, what? 60 busts? Leaving 50 slots or so for figurines. Maybe a couple selected trophies, but almost all are ugly, anyway.

    There shouldn't be a difference in my opinion. Just group the furnishing slots and collectible slots into one and let us decide what we want to use them for. Don't lower the number of total slots just give more leeway with the ones we have.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
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    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    BigM wrote: »
    Always thought they were for outside of house.

    They're the tiny ones that you'd put on a shelf. I love them but I can't use them in 90% of my houses because of the harsh limit on collectables.

    Get you a Manor. They have 110 spots for collectibles (with ESO plus). If the statues counted as traditional furnishings it would suck for a lot of us who are running out of space in that category already.

    But generally I agree with the theme of your post. The furnishing limits are too strict on this game and definitely put a damper on their housing system as a whole. Hopefully one day they will increase them.
    Edited by Jeremy on July 2, 2020 8:47PM
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    I leave them out in favor of my storage chests and undaunted trophies. I would prefer they were traditional furnishings as well.
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  • Lord-Otto
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    I am GLAD they go into the collectibles slots!
    (o_0)
    My house is stuffed to the brim with traditional furnishings, how would I possibly fit figurines in there? Collectibles are taken up by, what? 60 busts? Leaving 50 slots or so for figurines. Maybe a couple selected trophies, but almost all are ugly, anyway.

    There should be 51 busts and 51 trophies at the moment, if I’ve counted right. And we should have a way to display them all on top of all the statuettes and other collectible furnishings, according to ZOS’ own past actions.

    With Murkmire ZOS raised the maximum housing limits to 110 in order to accommodate all collectible furnishings at once, indicating that they’re aware some players want to display them all and are (or were) willing to make a huge exception to accommodate that desire. For all that they talk about how increasing slots threatens performance, they were willing to do it so players could display all the collectible furnishings at once, provided they had invested in both a manor and a subscription.

    The problem is that they haven’t stuck with that. Instead, they’ve substantially increased the number of collectible furnishings over the maximum limit. When they increased that cap number to 110 with Murkmire, that covered all the collectible furnishings at the time (which included the 8 storage containers). It allowed for greater justification for owning a manor and subscribing to ESO+, both substantial and optional investments in the game, since those are both required to have a cap of 110. To have made those investments and still not be able to display all of these collectibles in a single house undermined some of the value of those houses and housing perks. ZOS responded to that by raising the cap.

    Since then, we have had a slew of statuettes introduced, along with a variety of quest-themed items. In other words, they’ve completely defeated the point of raising the limit back in 2018 because even subscribers with manors are now having to make big decisions about which collectibles to display. If that choice had always been there, it would have been easy to say “ZOS intended us to have to make a choice,” and that would be something we’d have to accept, even if we kept requesting higher limits. (That’s the case with people who don’t own manors and/or don’t subscribe.) But ZOS deliberately made an exception to their policy of not raising housing limits precisely so players wouldn’t have to make a choice, if we were willing to invest — and since then they seem to have abandoned that decision and the expectations they created in making it.

    If they’re going to keep statuettes in collectibles, which is where I think they ultimately belong, the cap needs to be raised to accommodate them.

    The trophies are mostly ugly. Why would I choose a trophy over an antiquity? And why would I choose a collectible over a traditional furnishing?
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    PizzaCat82 wrote: »
    BigM wrote: »
    Always thought they were for outside of house.

    They're the tiny ones that you'd put on a shelf. I love them but I can't use them in 90% of my houses because of the harsh limit on collectables.

    Get you a Manor. They have 110 spots for collectibles (with ESO plus). If the statues counted as traditional furnishings it would suck for a lot of us who are running out of space in that category already.

    But generally I agree with the theme of your post. The furnishing limits are too strict on this game and definitely put a damper on their housing system as a whole. Hopefully one day they will increase them.

    I'm not sure people want the 110 spots to just go away. Instead of having 110 collectible spots and 700 furnishing spots you would have 810 spots for whatever.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
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    Some people do not seem to understand that just because you have it does not mean you have to put it in your house, does your character worship the deities that these small statues represent? no? then why would they have a statue of someone who is their enemy?

    Are you living in a house or a museum?
    Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on July 3, 2020 4:19AM
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    There shouldn't be a difference in my opinion. Just group the furnishing slots and collectible slots into one and let us decide what we want to use them for. Don't lower the number of total slots just give more leeway with the ones we have.

    The official reasoning on this is that the collectibles are less intensive VS regular furnishings and grouping them all together in one big pool of 900 or so furnishings wouldn't solve the current issue with graphic intensive furniture and the reason "traditional" is set to 700 in the largest homes.

    Believe it or not it's up to you.
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    Ok so honestly I did not know they raised the collectable ceiling to 110 in the Murkmire update.

    As for why, I am Khajiit. we have many masters to which we serve.

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    kargen27 wrote: »
    There shouldn't be a difference in my opinion. Just group the furnishing slots and collectible slots into one and let us decide what we want to use them for. Don't lower the number of total slots just give more leeway with the ones we have.

    The official reasoning on this is that the collectibles are less intensive VS regular furnishings and grouping them all together in one big pool of 900 or so furnishings wouldn't solve the current issue with graphic intensive furniture and the reason "traditional" is set to 700 in the largest homes.

    Believe it or not it's up to you.

    Yeah it is one of those wishful thinking things. Kind of like hoping they will put indoors and outdoors in different instances there by doubling what can fit in homes with a yard.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
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    I use a wing of the Grand Villa for a gallery of interesting things. This is where I have a spot for a few of my favorite statuettes. Also have some paintings, a few furnishings like a desk/papers/quill, and a few busts from vet content.
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    The purpose of restricting Housing slots has never had anything to do with game performance..... you can put 700 pebbles in a home and won’t have any issues, or you can put 700 lights/big trees and get tons of issues. It’s also very important how close they are and how many are on your screen at once.

    It’s intentional for you to not be able to fit the statuettes. Hence, there’s an artificial furnishing cap. The logic is that you will still subscribe and maybe you’ll buy a new expensive home which grants you lots of extra slots to use your subscription rewards/other furnishings. Same reason there is no Furnishing craft bag - everyone I know who cares at all for Housing has multiple storage homes.

    They don’t care if you can use the ESO+ rewards or not lol. You collected 21 of them, unable to use them, yet still are collecting. After over 3 years of waiting I don’t have any faith in furnishing limits increasing.
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    Some people do not seem to understand that just because you have it does not mean you have to put it in your house, does your character worship the deities that these small statues represent? no? then why would they have a statue of someone who is their enemy?

    Are you living in a house or a museum?

    Did you just assume my religious beliefs?
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    The purpose of restricting Housing slots has never had anything to do with game performance..... you can put 700 pebbles in a home and won’t have any issues, or you can put 700 lights/big trees and get tons of issues. It’s also very important how close they are and how many are on your screen at once.

    It’s intentional for you to not be able to fit the statuettes. Hence, there’s an artificial furnishing cap. The logic is that you will still subscribe and maybe you’ll buy a new expensive home which grants you lots of extra slots to use your subscription rewards/other furnishings. Same reason there is no Furnishing craft bag - everyone I know who cares at all for Housing has multiple storage homes.

    They don’t care if you can use the ESO+ rewards or not lol. You collected 21 of them, unable to use them, yet still are collecting. After over 3 years of waiting I don’t have any faith in furnishing limits increasing.

    It's a somewhat arbitrary rule. But how are you gonna change it? Make big glowy statues take up more slots? Even more in close proximity to each other? Double it if in a small house?
    The way it works now is just very simple and easy to understand. Yes, you will over time swap your forks for statues, but you gotta draw the line somewhere.
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    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    The purpose of restricting Housing slots has never had anything to do with game performance..... you can put 700 pebbles in a home and won’t have any issues, or you can put 700 lights/big trees and get tons of issues. It’s also very important how close they are and how many are on your screen at once.

    It’s intentional for you to not be able to fit the statuettes. Hence, there’s an artificial furnishing cap. The logic is that you will still subscribe and maybe you’ll buy a new expensive home which grants you lots of extra slots to use your subscription rewards/other furnishings. Same reason there is no Furnishing craft bag - everyone I know who cares at all for Housing has multiple storage homes.

    They don’t care if you can use the ESO+ rewards or not lol. You collected 21 of them, unable to use them, yet still are collecting. After over 3 years of waiting I don’t have any faith in furnishing limits increasing.

    It's a somewhat arbitrary rule. But how are you gonna change it? Make big glowy statues take up more slots? Even more in close proximity to each other? Double it if in a small house?
    The way it works now is just very simple and easy to understand. Yes, you will over time swap your forks for statues, but you gotta draw the line somewhere.

    Not necessarily. The way it works isn’t the “easiest” way either..... there’s four different furnishing caps. So to be “easiest” would be to have no furnishing caps. The line would be drawn wherever the player wants it to be within that home, meaning they can go ahead and lag out their house with 2K+ furnishings if they feel like which is what some homes would actually need to be properly furnished.

    Currently it’s set at 700 slots because if that’s not enough slots (there never is) then you won’t even come close as a non-ESO+ player, restricted to 350 slots.

    Step 1: Create enormous house.
    Step 2: Set a low furnishing cap.
    Step 3: Double the furnishing cap for players who pay more money.

    Not unheard of. Just kinda lame that ESO Housing turned out so money hungry. New $100+ homes all the time.
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Lord-Otto wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    The purpose of restricting Housing slots has never had anything to do with game performance..... you can put 700 pebbles in a home and won’t have any issues, or you can put 700 lights/big trees and get tons of issues. It’s also very important how close they are and how many are on your screen at once.

    It’s intentional for you to not be able to fit the statuettes. Hence, there’s an artificial furnishing cap. The logic is that you will still subscribe and maybe you’ll buy a new expensive home which grants you lots of extra slots to use your subscription rewards/other furnishings. Same reason there is no Furnishing craft bag - everyone I know who cares at all for Housing has multiple storage homes.

    They don’t care if you can use the ESO+ rewards or not lol. You collected 21 of them, unable to use them, yet still are collecting. After over 3 years of waiting I don’t have any faith in furnishing limits increasing.

    It's a somewhat arbitrary rule. But how are you gonna change it? Make big glowy statues take up more slots? Even more in close proximity to each other? Double it if in a small house?
    The way it works now is just very simple and easy to understand. Yes, you will over time swap your forks for statues, but you gotta draw the line somewhere.

    Not necessarily. The way it works isn’t the “easiest” way either..... there’s four different furnishing caps. So to be “easiest” would be to have no furnishing caps. The line would be drawn wherever the player wants it to be within that home, meaning they can go ahead and lag out their house with 2K+ furnishings if they feel like which is what some homes would actually need to be properly furnished.

    Currently it’s set at 700 slots because if that’s not enough slots (there never is) then you won’t even come close as a non-ESO+ player, restricted to 350 slots.

    Step 1: Create enormous house.
    Step 2: Set a low furnishing cap.
    Step 3: Double the furnishing cap for players who pay more money.

    Not unheard of. Just kinda lame that ESO Housing turned out so money hungry. New $100+ homes all the time.

    The other slots are being used more and more. Can't complain here. Yes, the non-ESO+ slots are too restrictive and the new houses shouldn't be exclusively 100 bucks for a weekend.
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    The ratios on the furnishing caps need adjusted. I find the "special collectibles" category troubling. Mounts, pets, and assistants go there. When you only have 8-10 slots in a giant home, it restricts your choices. :( I never understood that cap, since apparently it's fine to have two hundred players, non-combat pets and combat pets, assistants and mounts in the middle of Daggerfall town square.
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    If they were traditional furnishings they would take space in the inventory, no? I think the best solution would be to just increase the cap on collectible items that we can decorate a house with.
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    I remeber when they first released those free statues, I was like wow, that's cool.

    Then I placed one in my house all that long time ago and it's so tiny I still can't find it!
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    red_emu wrote: »
    I remeber when they first released those free statues, I was like wow, that's cool.

    Then I placed one in my house all that long time ago and it's so tiny I still can't find it!

    Have you checked the khajiit's pockets?
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    Buy a bigger house?

    The statues were ‘free’ (included with ESO+) so, if you don’t use them it’s no loss.
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    Are you living in a house or a museum?

    Neither, of course. While they do have some houses, all my characters are permanently living in front of the daily writ board in Vivec City.
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    Never put anything in your house that everybody else has.
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