CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »I wish, I just started an account on PC even though I have over 1100cp on PS4. I haven't gotten far enough to judge lag where it would count so I'm not sure about that but I can tell you on my PC with a NVMe SDD fast travel within a zone is instant and traveling from one zone to another loads in 30 seconds at most compared to 3-5 minutes for either on PS4 Pro.
The visuals are also way better on PC. Playing at 1440P with everything else set to max and hovering between 60-90 fps on a fairly low end 4GB AMD RX 570 gpu (while impatiently waiting for RTX 3000 cards) and everything is way more crisp than upscaled 4k on PS4. Rocks walls, plants, armor, mounts, visuals from skills, everything has more detail. The lighting quality on PC also blows away the PS4 Pro version.
3 to 5 minutes? That's extreme and I'm pretty sure it has less to do with the PS4 Pro per se than with your internet connection. I'm on PS4 Pro as well, and even when I get an "unusually long load time" it takes about 30 seconds tops. The normal zoning time (inside a zone) is around 3 seconds for me and between zones it might take 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe you're connected with a cable on PC and use WLAN for PS4? That makes a difference as well. Although I should add that the times I gave before for my load screens were WLAN as well. If I used a cable - which I can't really because of the placement of PS4 and router - it would very likely be faster. So this is probably more of an internet than a console issue.
itscompton wrote: »CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »I wish, I just started an account on PC even though I have over 1100cp on PS4. I haven't gotten far enough to judge lag where it would count so I'm not sure about that but I can tell you on my PC with a NVMe SDD fast travel within a zone is instant and traveling from one zone to another loads in 30 seconds at most compared to 3-5 minutes for either on PS4 Pro.
The visuals are also way better on PC. Playing at 1440P with everything else set to max and hovering between 60-90 fps on a fairly low end 4GB AMD RX 570 gpu (while impatiently waiting for RTX 3000 cards) and everything is way more crisp than upscaled 4k on PS4. Rocks walls, plants, armor, mounts, visuals from skills, everything has more detail. The lighting quality on PC also blows away the PS4 Pro version.
3 to 5 minutes? That's extreme and I'm pretty sure it has less to do with the PS4 Pro per se than with your internet connection. I'm on PS4 Pro as well, and even when I get an "unusually long load time" it takes about 30 seconds tops. The normal zoning time (inside a zone) is around 3 seconds for me and between zones it might take 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe you're connected with a cable on PC and use WLAN for PS4? That makes a difference as well. Although I should add that the times I gave before for my load screens were WLAN as well. If I used a cable - which I can't really because of the placement of PS4 and router - it would very likely be faster. So this is probably more of an internet than a console issue.
Wrong, my internet is crazy fast, with 40MB download. Not to mention when you're zoning between levels you're not doing anything that is using a lot of bandwidth, all the info for world assets is already on the hard drive ready to be rendered.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Biased poll is biased.
ZOS said they're not doing console transfers.
CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »I wish, I just started an account on PC even though I have over 1100cp on PS4. I haven't gotten far enough to judge lag where it would count so I'm not sure about that but I can tell you on my PC with a NVMe SDD fast travel within a zone is instant and traveling from one zone to another loads in 30 seconds at most compared to 3-5 minutes for either on PS4 Pro.
The visuals are also way better on PC. Playing at 1440P with everything else set to max and hovering between 60-90 fps on a fairly low end 4GB AMD RX 570 gpu (while impatiently waiting for RTX 3000 cards) and everything is way more crisp than upscaled 4k on PS4. Rocks walls, plants, armor, mounts, visuals from skills, everything has more detail. The lighting quality on PC also blows away the PS4 Pro version.
3 to 5 minutes? That's extreme and I'm pretty sure it has less to do with the PS4 Pro per se than with your internet connection. I'm on PS4 Pro as well, and even when I get an "unusually long load time" it takes about 30 seconds tops. The normal zoning time (inside a zone) is around 3 seconds for me and between zones it might take 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe you're connected with a cable on PC and use WLAN for PS4? That makes a difference as well. Although I should add that the times I gave before for my load screens were WLAN as well. If I used a cable - which I can't really because of the placement of PS4 and router - it would very likely be faster. So this is probably more of an internet than a console issue.
Wrong, my internet is crazy fast, with 40MB download. Not to mention when you're zoning between levels you're not doing anything that is using a lot of bandwidth, all the info for world assets is already on the hard drive ready to be rendered.
Well, then I don't know what it is, but my internet is the same speed as yours and my load times are obviously much faster, so... no idea what it is then, but I doubt it has anything to do with your PS4 - or that most other people on console have load times of 3 to 5 minutes.
Edit: @ItsJustHashtag I don't know about the new Xbox, but my understanding about the PS5 is that it will be downwards compatible for a whole lot of titles. So likely there will be no transfer necessary, we will just be able to download the game to the PS5 and keep on playing as normal.
Versispellis wrote: »CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »I wish, I just started an account on PC even though I have over 1100cp on PS4. I haven't gotten far enough to judge lag where it would count so I'm not sure about that but I can tell you on my PC with a NVMe SDD fast travel within a zone is instant and traveling from one zone to another loads in 30 seconds at most compared to 3-5 minutes for either on PS4 Pro.
The visuals are also way better on PC. Playing at 1440P with everything else set to max and hovering between 60-90 fps on a fairly low end 4GB AMD RX 570 gpu (while impatiently waiting for RTX 3000 cards) and everything is way more crisp than upscaled 4k on PS4. Rocks walls, plants, armor, mounts, visuals from skills, everything has more detail. The lighting quality on PC also blows away the PS4 Pro version.
3 to 5 minutes? That's extreme and I'm pretty sure it has less to do with the PS4 Pro per se than with your internet connection. I'm on PS4 Pro as well, and even when I get an "unusually long load time" it takes about 30 seconds tops. The normal zoning time (inside a zone) is around 3 seconds for me and between zones it might take 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe you're connected with a cable on PC and use WLAN for PS4? That makes a difference as well. Although I should add that the times I gave before for my load screens were WLAN as well. If I used a cable - which I can't really because of the placement of PS4 and router - it would very likely be faster. So this is probably more of an internet than a console issue.
Wrong, my internet is crazy fast, with 40MB download. Not to mention when you're zoning between levels you're not doing anything that is using a lot of bandwidth, all the info for world assets is already on the hard drive ready to be rendered.
Well, then I don't know what it is, but my internet is the same speed as yours and my load times are obviously much faster, so... no idea what it is then, but I doubt it has anything to do with your PS4 - or that most other people on console have load times of 3 to 5 minutes.
Edit: @ItsJustHashtag I don't know about the new Xbox, but my understanding about the PS5 is that it will be downwards compatible for a whole lot of titles. So likely there will be no transfer necessary, we will just be able to download the game to the PS5 and keep on playing as normal.
Yeah, I doubt it has anything to do with internet speed as long as you're in the "sufficient" zone. I have 4G LTE internet (significant, because it results in restricted NAT) with an average speed of 10mb down, and I'm on a PS4 Pro, and my load times rarely exceed 30 seconds. I'm also playing with boost mode, supersampling and 1080p enhanced, all of which could theoretically affect performance. I think it has more to do with how many hops you have to make to reach the server, server load at any particular moment, and idiosynchratic things with your particular hardware and setup. For instance, my game data is on an SSD. Maybe that has something to do with faster performance?
CassandraGemini wrote: »As Taleof2Cities already said, this poll is not only pointless, because there will never be such an option to transfer accounts, it is also biased in the way that it seems to indicate that basically every console user would like the idea of a transfer and the only reason why they ultimately wouldn't go through with it (if it were possible) would be that "it lags just as bad on PC". I can't speak for anybody else of course, but let me assure you that I wouldn't transfer my account from console to PC no matter what. Yes, PC master race and all that, I know that, not trying to say otherwise - but there are certain other reasons why people choose consoles over PCs (and no, most of them actually don't have anything to do with money or lack thereof) and I, for one, will never revert that choice. Been on consoles since the NES and will stay that way
CassandraGemini wrote: »As Taleof2Cities already said, this poll is not only pointless, because there will never be such an option to transfer accounts, it is also biased in the way that it seems to indicate that basically every console user would like the idea of a transfer and the only reason why they ultimately wouldn't go through with it (if it were possible) would be that "it lags just as bad on PC". I can't speak for anybody else of course, but let me assure you that I wouldn't transfer my account from console to PC no matter what. Yes, PC master race and all that, I know that, not trying to say otherwise - but there are certain other reasons why people choose consoles over PCs (and no, most of them actually don't have anything to do with money or lack thereof) and I, for one, will never revert that choice. Been on consoles since the NES and will stay that way
Hey they never said they would do alliance change tokens and now look?
CassandraGemini wrote: »Versispellis wrote: »CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »CassandraGemini wrote: »itscompton wrote: »I wish, I just started an account on PC even though I have over 1100cp on PS4. I haven't gotten far enough to judge lag where it would count so I'm not sure about that but I can tell you on my PC with a NVMe SDD fast travel within a zone is instant and traveling from one zone to another loads in 30 seconds at most compared to 3-5 minutes for either on PS4 Pro.
The visuals are also way better on PC. Playing at 1440P with everything else set to max and hovering between 60-90 fps on a fairly low end 4GB AMD RX 570 gpu (while impatiently waiting for RTX 3000 cards) and everything is way more crisp than upscaled 4k on PS4. Rocks walls, plants, armor, mounts, visuals from skills, everything has more detail. The lighting quality on PC also blows away the PS4 Pro version.
3 to 5 minutes? That's extreme and I'm pretty sure it has less to do with the PS4 Pro per se than with your internet connection. I'm on PS4 Pro as well, and even when I get an "unusually long load time" it takes about 30 seconds tops. The normal zoning time (inside a zone) is around 3 seconds for me and between zones it might take 10 to 20 seconds. Maybe you're connected with a cable on PC and use WLAN for PS4? That makes a difference as well. Although I should add that the times I gave before for my load screens were WLAN as well. If I used a cable - which I can't really because of the placement of PS4 and router - it would very likely be faster. So this is probably more of an internet than a console issue.
Wrong, my internet is crazy fast, with 40MB download. Not to mention when you're zoning between levels you're not doing anything that is using a lot of bandwidth, all the info for world assets is already on the hard drive ready to be rendered.
Well, then I don't know what it is, but my internet is the same speed as yours and my load times are obviously much faster, so... no idea what it is then, but I doubt it has anything to do with your PS4 - or that most other people on console have load times of 3 to 5 minutes.
Edit: @ItsJustHashtag I don't know about the new Xbox, but my understanding about the PS5 is that it will be downwards compatible for a whole lot of titles. So likely there will be no transfer necessary, we will just be able to download the game to the PS5 and keep on playing as normal.
Yeah, I doubt it has anything to do with internet speed as long as you're in the "sufficient" zone. I have 4G LTE internet (significant, because it results in restricted NAT) with an average speed of 10mb down, and I'm on a PS4 Pro, and my load times rarely exceed 30 seconds. I'm also playing with boost mode, supersampling and 1080p enhanced, all of which could theoretically affect performance. I think it has more to do with how many hops you have to make to reach the server, server load at any particular moment, and idiosynchratic things with your particular hardware and setup. For instance, my game data is on an SSD. Maybe that has something to do with faster performance?
No, you're right, of course, there's a lot of stuff that could factor into it - ping and the availability of an SSD especially, I think (I'm not using an SSD myself, since I don't seem to have much trouble with load times in general... I really wonder why that is, actually). When replying first I was thinking mostly about the difference a cable can make compared to the use of WLAN, but since that doesn't seem to be relevant... well, who knows, could be anything, really. Basically I just wanted to give a counter-example to show that you can also have okay or even good load times on console, but it sure would be interesting to know what the experience of the majority is.
CassandraGemini wrote: »As Taleof2Cities already said, this poll is not only pointless, because there will never be such an option to transfer accounts, it is also biased in the way that it seems to indicate that basically every console user would like the idea of a transfer and the only reason why they ultimately wouldn't go through with it (if it were possible) would be that "it lags just as bad on PC". I can't speak for anybody else of course, but let me assure you that I wouldn't transfer my account from console to PC no matter what. Yes, PC master race and all that, I know that, not trying to say otherwise - but there are certain other reasons why people choose consoles over PCs (and no, most of them actually don't have anything to do with money or lack thereof) and I, for one, will never revert that choice. Been on consoles since the NES and will stay that way
Hey they never said they would do alliance change tokens and now look?
I'm not sure where you got the idea that performance is noticably better on PC than on consoles, but it seems to have a lot of the same issues, or at least equivalent issues.
Apparently PC-NA is slightly more reliable than PC-EU, but I seem to remember ZOS saying that's because the population is higher on EU due to more Europeans using PCs than consoles, so if lots of people were to transfer from console to PC it would end up just as bad.