Mythic item leads and fishing.

Viem · June 2020

I mean seriously : who thought this to be a good idea. To spent 40+ minutes in a game, fishing... Fishing... IN a game. I mean couldn't you think any worse counter-productive, time-wasting actrivity for your player base... Fishing..?
Can you at least find more interesting and profitable ways to link mythic items with. I mean is fishing really a sign of, what, resolve... Dedication? I mean geeez

You should always present us with an alternative way when it comes to such activities. Let's say a lead dropping from fishing and by farming bosses in a public/normal dungeon with increased drop rate from hard mode etc.
I mean there can't be a single person out there who thinks : "Oh i can't wait to log into ESO to go fishing"...

Show some respect for our time spent in the game.

Nairinhe · June 2020

Viem wrote: »

I mean there can't be a single person out there who thinks : "Oh i can't wait to log into ESO to go fishing"...

Hi there!

No, really, it's addictive.

MKintr · June 2020

Fishing counts as torture. If you fish 2 hours in ESO, you get a discount of 1 day on purgatory. But only if you are catholic

Viem · June 2020

[quote="Nairinhe;c-6822811"
Hi there!

No, really, it's addictive.[/quote]

No mate it really is NOT. I have just wasted 1 hour of my precious real life time pressing "E" for what? Fish..? IN a game?

Just give us an alternative and let those who like fishing, choose fishing and those who don't do something else.

TheDarkoil · June 2020

Try getting the master angler fish from cyrodil right outside the AD gate and then come back and complain about fishing lmao.

Raisin · June 2020

Viem wrote: »

Nairinhe wrote: »

Hi there!
No, really, it's addictive.

No mate it really is NOT. I have just wasted 1 hour of my precious real life time pressing "E" for what? Fish..? IN a game?

Just give us an alternative and let those who like fishing, choose fishing and those who don't do something else.

Some people (me included) enjoy it. [snip] Leads are spread up around almost all different aspects of the game, and that's a good thing.
There's forum threads complaining about leads being involved with fishing, PVE, PVP, justice system, did I forget something? Probably.

Everybody is pissed that a lead drops in the content they don't want to do. The fact that people literally cannot look past "I want leads in the content I like and nowhere else

" is incredible to me.

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Nemesis7884 · June 2020

its just so random, i got both fishing leads very fast (both within 1-2 hours), whereas i farmed wolves for the malacath lead for a day

Earrindo · June 2020

Im actually untroubled by the fished leads, what irks me is the shoulder to shoulder unbelievable throng in artaeum right now. Alcast suggested it to level antiquities, plus theres a lead for a mythic item there, and i honestly havent found a single time of day when you dont have to fight for a node.

that just seems like poor planning to me. So many zones with many many nodes, and they pick Artaeum, which is pretty light on nodes to begin with.

sudaki_eso · June 2020

While we are on it, also make vma weapons drop from World Bosses or fishing. Didnt liked the Solo Arena at all and had to spend 50h+ in there to get the weapon i was looking for.

Fishing is an activity like anything else in the game, you might even get some roe, if you dont like to do it then dont do it and skip the item, its up to you. Nobody forces you to go fishing and nobody forced me to play that damn arena but since i wanted that weapon i did it, not for fun but for that weapon.

TheKingofSass · June 2020

Try if possible, to fish when it's either in the morning or very late at night, then there are less people around. Also what helps is using one of the artheum food buffs, which lures more fish to you.

What I noticed, when there is absolutely nobody, leads drop like hot candy. The other day, I got the lead in artheum on the first fish pond, then in Stros mkai it took me like 45mins? Maybe even lesser to get that lead. The other leads (world and delve boss) dropped instantly at first kill. So give that a go.

Good luck!!

what_the · June 2020

Raisin wrote: »

Viem wrote: »

Nairinhe wrote: »

Hi there!
No, really, it's addictive.

No mate it really is NOT. I have just wasted 1 hour of my precious real life time pressing "E" for what? Fish..? IN a game?

Just give us an alternative and let those who like fishing, choose fishing and those who don't do something else.

Some people (me included) enjoy it. Sorry, but get over it. Leads are spread up around almost all different aspects of the game, and that's a good thing.
There's forum threads complaining about leads being involved with fishing, PVE, PVP, justice system, did I forget something? Probably.

Everybody is pissed that a lead drops in the content they don't want to do. The fact that people literally cannot look past "I want leads in the content I like and nowhere else " is incredible to me.

QFT
Antiquities are not mandatory. If you don't enjoy doing them, simply don't do them.

Integral1900 · June 2020

Just do as I do

If a lead comes from content you hate, just ignore it and move on

Problem solved

You are all very welcome to the benefit of my dazzling genius 😇

Odovacar · June 2020

After my MA journey I'll never fish in excess again...I refuse!

Sylvermynx · June 2020

Eh, I've been thinking about doing a few more Master Anglers. The months I spent on my four were pretty relaxing really. I'm not going to do any more until this chapter becomes a DLC though....

Tan9oSuccka · June 2020

5 hours, 2 plus days available play time in Stros fishing for leads. Nada.

I give up. No thanks.

bluebird · June 2020

The 'Don't like it, just don't do it it's not mandatory' posts really need to stop.
What does that even contribute to the discussion? Plus it doesn't even make sense.

If you think for a second, you might realize that Antiquities have several types of exclusive and bound rewards that do require you to grind the Antiquities skill, and then also grind random content for the leads which are often not related to the items at all. And the grind is mandatory for everyone who wants to stay competitive in their MMO, requiring access to the Mythic items.

Don't like mobile games? Don't play them! Sure.
But gear for my action-RPG which I do like isn't gated behind mobile games.
Except in ESO which did just that.
Want to have fish? You need to fish. Makes sense.
Want to have powerful combat gear? You need to... fish? How does that make sense?

If you personally don't mind the grind, good for you. But that doesn't change the fact that the gating of many Antiquities isn't very sensible at all. Several Antiquities come from multiple sources (Public dungeons and Treasure Chests and Thieve's Troves and dolmens and random Daedric encounters), and not a single person complained that too many sources ruin those Antiquities. So really, there is nothing wrong with asking for multiple sources for most other leads either.

Especially when it comes to the incredibly frustrating ones where the low drop rate RNG is combined with terrible sources. Like the fishing lead from Arteum. Arteum! One of the smallest zones already, but it also has an incredibly small shoreline. Why not add that fishing lead to Summerset or Auridon? Both have links to Thrassian lore, and they are not only much larger but also have plenty of coastlines. Or have the lead from from fishing, gathering mats, doing delve bosses too.

W0lf_z13 · June 2020

it's not really that bad, i didn't have to go to many spots till i got the leads from fishing... yes it was boring... but oh well... first gold lead from fishing i had to go through 6 fishing holes, another one i got on the first fishing hole... it's all rng based ... the purpose of having them in fishing is to spread everything across all activities in the game... some are in public dungeons, others in group dungeons, world bosses , just random debris piles ... I enjoy the whole antiquities because it has you go places and explore different areas of the game that you might not normally have done

W0lf_z13 · June 2020

Earrindo wrote: »

Im actually untroubled by the fished leads, what irks me is the shoulder to shoulder unbelievable throng in artaeum right now. Alcast suggested it to level antiquities, plus theres a lead for a mythic item there, and i honestly havent found a single time of day when you dont have to fight for a node.

that just seems like poor planning to me. So many zones with many many nodes, and they pick Artaeum, which is pretty light on nodes to begin with.

you can also get that one in regular summerset ( which is what I did ) it might be a bigger area but less people are there

Viem · June 2020

bluebird wrote: »

The 'Don't like it, just don't do it it's not mandatory' posts really need to stop.
What does that even contribute to the discussion? Plus it doesn't even make sense.

If you think for a second, you might realize that Antiquities have several types of exclusive and bound rewards that do require you to grind the Antiquities skill, and then also grind random content for the leads which are often not related to the items at all. And the grind is mandatory for everyone who wants to stay competitive in their MMO, requiring access to the Mythic items.

Don't like mobile games? Don't play them! Sure.
But gear for my action-RPG which I do like isn't gated behind mobile games.
Except in ESO which did just that.
Want to have fish? You need to fish. Makes sense.
Want to have powerful combat gear? You need to... fish? How does that make sense?

If you personally don't mind the grind, good for you. But that doesn't change the fact that the gating of many Antiquities isn't very sensible at all. Several Antiquities come from multiple sources (Public dungeons and Treasure Chests and Thieve's Troves and dolmens and random Daedric encounters), and not a single person complained that too many sources ruin those Antiquities. So really, there is nothing wrong with asking for multiple sources for most other leads either.

Especially when it comes to the incredibly frustrating ones where the low drop rate RNG is combined with terrible sources. Like the fishing lead from Arteum. Arteum! One of the smallest zones already, but it also has an incredibly small shoreline. Why not add that fishing lead to Summerset or Auridon? Both have links to Thrassian lore, and they are not only much larger but also have plenty of coastlines. Or have the lead from from fishing, gathering mats, doing delve bosses too.

Mate, thank you... People react to the probability of an alternative way to gaining leads apart from fishing as if they designed fishing in ESO themselves. KInda makes you wonder if they really did or what kind of lives they are living to actually consider chasing the "E" button enjoyable...
I mean, i am taking time away from my girlfriend, friends, family etc. to stand still over a superficial pond, chasing superficial fish by pressing "E" when a superficial rod wavers.
You(them) like that? Fine..! But don't tell me an alternative is an issue i have to get over... It's 2020 and we are far from playing Pong...

Thank you again!

Nulami · June 2020

bluebird wrote: »

Want to have powerful combat gear? You need to... fish? How does that make sense?

Makes perfect sense. The powerful warriors of that age realized they needed to consume fish oil to help keep their joints well lubricated so they could keep on fighting. On occasion, they would get forgetful and leave something behind on the beach (maybe a "From Here To Eternity" moment?) and the tide would pull it out to sea.

Now you get discover the lead that takes you to where the item was created long ago.

Gaggin · June 2020

8 hours in with no lead. They need to increase the drop rate by alot.

AmoralOne · June 2020

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

its just so random, i got both fishing leads very fast (both within 1-2 hours), whereas i farmed wolves for the malacath lead for a day

This this this this. I farmed the world boss for the malacath lead for 5 hours. Then FIRST mob for the other 5 leads i got it first try. lol

majulook · June 2020

Antiquities was a major part of this Chapter, they put things behind all aspects of the game to get players to try those things they do not normally do. This I guess is OK as it get players to do different things.

The bad part is the RNG that used to determine if you get a drop or not. Along with all the issues of the leads not even dropping from some activities that they are supposed to, with no fix in sight for how many weeks?

Hours and hours of repetitive of fishing, or killing wolves in one zone, running a Dungeon, or doing anything over and over, is not fun it becomes mind numbing. Locking away items in PVP areas so you get the RNG, and the high probability of being killed by other players prior to getting the possibility of the RNG drop.

This only makes the chapter seem like it has more than it does. Putting items behind vastly repetitive aspects of the game, and PVP (which 90% of the player base does not like) and then basing all the drops on players having to do these specific things in game over and due to the RNG.

IMHO Not Fun.

Samas_R_Counts · June 2020

What if they didn't tell us which type of fishing hole you needed to fish at? That would suck to the max.

idk · June 2020

I am sure someone already said it, but the leads go through all aspects of the game. Like it or not, fishing is part of the game.

Adaarye · June 2020

Just wait it out. Eventually, this content like all the other content, will be less camped. Farm all the leads that are in line with what you like to do.
There's so much to do in Greymoor. You can farm coagulants to make all the groovy new furniture recipes and do daily Harrowstorm quests.

Luke_Flamesword · June 2020

I don't mind some fishing from time to time (no more than couple minutes in a row) but giving element of mythic item in that activity is just trolling players. Of course there should be lead in every aspect of game (that's the point) but give people some nice furnishing instead in such boring and poor designed activity.

Dungeons, PVP, killing mobs, looting, stealing - that's the real game acitivities. You may don't like some of it, but they important part of game. Fishing is another story - it's mindless, boring "press e button" curiosity, not a real thing

PrimusNephilim · June 2020

I've played for 4 years and I don't fish, don't care about a little achievement or a boat to place in my house..... The only reason why I'm grinding this ridiculous Antiquity system is for the mythic items, just hope they're worth it

kargen27 · June 2020

"Want to have fish? You need to fish. Makes sense.
Want to have powerful combat gear? You need to... fish? How does that make sense?"

You are not finding the combat gear while fishing. You are finding a lead. Someone long ago wanting to hide the lead but not destroy it tossed it in a lake. A century later you come along hoping to catch dinner and instead find a lead.
Hiding a powerful weapon in a body of water seemed to work well for Tolkien.

I do have one master fisherman. Was lucky to be in a guild with several people that fished so for a couple of hours one night a week we would all get in Discord and talk among ourselves while fishing.

Now I mostly fish only when waiting for a pug trial group to fill or waiting in queue.

TheValkyn · June 2020

Idk. When I log in I want to have fun, make my character more powerful and hang out with friends.

Fishing pisses me off. It’s a poorly executed game system and can be abused by other players to ruin your experience.

Fur_like_snow · June 2020

I find fishing to be very relaxing. My recommendation is to turn off all in game sounds/music and turn up the ambient sound. Bonus if you have a nice sound system or headphones. Personally I like that the developers added another reason to fish.