Hopefully this DK stacking gets fixed soon. It's ridiculously overpowered. It's really ruining AvA. I was part of that AD group attacking yesterday. At one point I witnessed 2 DKs standing out in the open on the lower stair, being attacked by over 30 AD and a ballista also hitting them. Teammates were dropping -40% spell resist and -40% armor on them... the 2 never dropped below 90% HP.....

Tanky enough to hold an army, with enough damage and sustain to kill them all. No sacrifices... why?

Just a few minutes ago I witnessed ONE DK kill an attacking force of 20 at a keep inner. There was no oil pouring or anything, all damage was from the DK. Couldn't drop his HP at all, even with -40% spell resist and armor on him, all allies died within 15 seconds.

Here's to hoping it will be fixed soon, so the game can have class and build variety. Otherwise everyone will have to re-roll DK and run these builds.

masterlouppub18_ESO wrote: »

Milky wrote: »

Just a few minutes ago I witnessed ONE DK kill an attacking force of 20 at a keep inner. There was no oil pouring or anything, all damage was from the DK. Couldn't drop his HP at all, even with -40% spell resist and armor on him, all allies died within 15 seconds.

Here's to hoping it will be fixed soon, so the game can have class and build variety. Otherwise everyone will have to re-roll DK and run these builds.

Yeah im calling bull on that

yeah, be careful not to step in the bull....well you know.

masterlouppub18_ESO wrote: »

Milky wrote: »

Just a few minutes ago I witnessed ONE DK kill an attacking force of 20 at a keep inner. There was no oil pouring or anything, all damage was from the DK. Couldn't drop his HP at all, even with -40% spell resist and armor on him, all allies died within 15 seconds.

Here's to hoping it will be fixed soon, so the game can have class and build variety. Otherwise everyone will have to re-roll DK and run these builds.

Yeah im calling bull on that

I literally just did this. I'll post the video tomorrow.

masterlouppub18_ESO wrote: »

http://i.imgur.com/uv1BvbC.png

my stats, i got attacked by 5 players and died in a second while blocking/standing in my banner.

im having a hard time believing a DK soloed 20 players

You don't even have a bone shield up. The majority of the players were vet one, with some up to vet 3-4. Only 3-4 were sub-50.

aeroch wrote: »

Playing a tanky Standard ultimate DK, I could kill a group of 10 players pretty easily on the low pop campaign I started on.

Switched to a more active campaign with more Veterans and those same tactics got me killed

I think it's a combination of Veterans vs. low levels and low skill levels in general. As more players level up, learn to CC break, and learn how to fight various builds, it won't be an issue

This was on a well populated server, auriels bow, vs a guilded group with the above mentioned levels. I have no doubt that the players in this video have worked hard to synergize their builds and are skilled players. But the damage mitigation is absurd. There should be a sacrifice for that much tankyness, but unfortunately they can still dish out fantastic damage.

You don't even have a bone shield up.

I'm curious as to why it matter. Because of overcharge, bone shield will give you 500-600 defence at most.

masterlouppub18_ESO wrote: »

You don't even have a bone shield up.

I'm curious as to why it matter. Because of overcharge, bone shield will give you 500-600 defence at most.

Synergy. Press X. 60% hp shield... gg.

I have just one question for OP: who is the girl in the group? Nevermind, found that out by watching the video. Wish I'd rolled a DK now. Looks insanely fun :<

What happening is that since the game is new, the counters to many tactics are just not well known. Most people don't really pay attention to this stuff, they only use counters that have been posted online or made available by others. Most of the DK's out there didn't even figure out the tactics on their own, they are just copying others.

You have to think on your feet in this game and not just blindly throw stuff around.

For example, seeing that video, I would probably try sneaking as close as possible, then laying down negate magic, soft CC to keep them all in place, and physical attacks. Anything but continue to rush in 3-4 at a time just blindly throwing attacks out without shutting down their primary source of dps.

There are a lot of really good abilities in this game that are just completely underused. Caltrops, negate magic, etc..

These DK builds are going to get shut down hard by players who actually put in the time and effort to come up with counters. And then we will be off to the next tactic that most people have no clue how to counter, and whine nerf on the forums.

chrisub17_ESO104 wrote: »

What happening is that since the game is new, the counters to many tactics are just not well known. Most people don't really pay attention to this stuff, they only use counters that have been posted online or made available by others. Most of the DK's out there didn't even figure out the tactics on their own, they are just copying others.

You have to think on your feet in this game and not just blindly throw stuff around.

For example, seeing that video, I would probably try sneaking as close as possible, then laying down negate magic, soft CC to keep them all in place, and physical attacks. Anything but continue to rush in 3-4 at a time just blindly throwing attacks out without shutting down their primary source of dps.

There are a lot of really good abilities in this game that are just completely underused. Caltrops, negate magic, etc..

These DK builds are going to get shut down hard by players who actually put in the time and effort to come up with counters. And then we will be off to the next tactic that most people have no clue how to counter, and whine nerf on the forums.

How to kill DK with Talons and Banner up:

1) Purge 2) Step out of red circle 3) ???

Cydone wrote: »

Xlayer wrote: »

masterlouppub18_ESO wrote: »

http://i.imgur.com/uv1BvbC.png

my stats, i got attacked by 5 players and died in a second while blocking/standing in my banner.

im having a hard time believing a DK soloed 20 players

You're right. It was actually two DKs, so DK is only half as broken as you think. Here is the video as promised:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iqbf3mtnrM#t=84

You said you'd be putting up a video of you 1 vs 20. No where in this video are there 20 ppl, at one time, trying to kill you. GG though.

EDIT: Oh and most times, when you are taking on 4-5 or more ppl, in your video, there are other allied players there helping you kill them.

You're right. DK is perfectly fine as is.

I've seen DK's kill 10-20 players solo at least a dozen times these past few days. I've seen duo's of dk's, with and without support, wipe zergs of 50+ with chain banners. There are still the bad ones who you can pick apart, but anyone denying how OP DK is atm is playing a DK and loving it.

i do have the creeping suspicion that everyone skill defending the DK is playing one...

I think a lot of people are OVEREMPHASISING what a "solo" kill, or solo fight is.

1 versus 20 is literally 1 versus 20.

You look around, and there is NO ONE else on your team in sight. NO ONE.

THAT'S 1 versus 20.

Just because you're on the front lines engaging enemies first doesn't make the battle 1 vs. 20, or 40, or 600.

Just because you turtle the other team in a tower and kill them one by a few, if that, as they trickle in, doesn't make you super awesome, and it doesn't make your class overpowered.

That doesn't go without saying that veteran ranks were made to be more powerful than level 50's in pvp. That's just the way it is. Everyone who is stat boosted in Cyrodil if they are pre-50, has the same stats. I have even lost stats and had them 'normalized' through the system - this doesn't happen at vet ranks, obviously.

Show me a video of you versus other players - whom are all vet level 10 - and then I will be impressed. Until that happens, this thread just shows me another day in Cyrodil, I see nothing special about it.