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so normally when i make gear for someone they join me while i make it

  • Darkenarlol
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    when i craft something i use clear and perfectly working algorithm

    1) we discuss what the customer wants from me


    2) customer sends me mats in a mail with clear description of what items (set, weight, quality, style etc) they want

    so i can use that mail as a note instead of scrolling chat like crazy.

    customer sends me a private message that mats are sended so i can teleport to craft stations to craft

    ofc i can provide style mats for free if they are not pricy.


    3) after receiving mats and checking everything i can craft

    then send crafted gear back with COD (if it is not for friends ofc)

    and sending back unused mats (if they send 4 stacks and i used let's say only 720/800)


    4) everyone is happy, noone is scammed and noone has wasted any extra time
  • mairwen85
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    when i craft something i use clear and perfectly working algorithm

    1) we discuss what the customer wants from me


    2) customer sends me mats in a mail with clear description of what items (set, weight, quality, style etc) they want

    so i can use that mail as a note instead of scrolling chat like crazy.

    customer sends me a private message that mats are sended so i can teleport to craft stations to craft

    ofc i can provide style mats for free if they are not pricy.


    3) after receiving mats and checking everything i can craft

    then send crafted gear back with COD (if it is not for friends ofc)

    and sending back unused mats (if they send 4 stacks and i used let's say only 720/800)


    4) everyone is happy, noone is scammed and noone has wasted any extra time

    This is the most sensible and correct way. Mats first as attachment to a mail that details exactly what is needed. COD gear when complete. It's how I do it, even with friends (unless we're really good friends :wink: ). Gold is unnecessary for me unless they want epic or better.
  • Mirrrr
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    bmnoble wrote: »
    Would not even start making legendary gear for them before receiving the gold mats/expensive trait mats minimum, I don't tend to be as fussed about the other mats, so long as the tip is good it covers them with no problems.

    Maybe if its just weapons but never full sets, the highest quality gear I will make someone before receiving payment/mats is usually purple at most.



    Ultimately its up to you who you choose to craft for and what you expect from them, if what they are supplying is lacking tell them why and what you need before you will start in a calm clear manner.

    I expect everything researched on their part, all the mats ready to mail to me, with a complete list of what they want made for reference.

    Once I get the mats in the mail, I port to either my favorite guild house or the guild house of the guild my guild mate is also in if they want to do a direct trade of the mats and gear rather than using the mail.

    Once I get every thing, I spend some time allow about 10 minutes making it, constantly checking the letter telling me what they wanted, sometimes whispering the customer to clarify anything that is missing from their letter. Once its all done I mail all the gear to them or hunt them down if their mail box is full.

    Tip is up to the customer once they receive their order.


    For example:

    I have had one person in the past who wanted gear made, send me 100K to make them to full gold sets, complete list in the letter of what they wanted made and I could keep the change as a tip, because that 100K was expected to cover the cost of all the mats involved.

    I returned their mail and sent a mail to them with a complete list of the mats required for their order and kindly asked them to shop for their own mats to mail me before I started making their order.

    At first I heard nothing back from him, two months later he mailed his order again, with all the mats I had requested, I made him the gear and mailed it to him.

    After chatting with him I learned, that initially he had gotten the 100K in a daily log in reward and thought he was finally rich enough for gold gear, it took him the two months of casual play to buy everything on the list I mailed him and understood why I had returned his original order request.

    I declined a tip. The guy still orders stuff from me because he knows I am not going to screw him over.

    I may not be online as much as I use to but still make a point to log in at least once a day, any orders get taken care of, after I check my mail.

    Respect to him for admitting it and actually got the mats by himself. And you for declining his tip ^^
  • preevious
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    Well, that sucks, yes.

    But don't despair, most people are pretty decent.
    For me, it goes like this :

    1) We both agree on the payment.
    2) I craft everything, and send the stuff (without CoD .. I never CoD)
    3) when the guy gets the stuff, he send the gold. Actually, I very often gets the gold before I'm finished crafting .. doesn't matter either way.
    4) we leave each other's company


    I've been scammed only once by someone who just never sent gold and never contacted me again.
    But the tips more than make up for the once-in-a-blue-moon unsavory character.

    To be honnest, sometime, I get a bad vibe off the other guy, and I might be a little more prudent then. But it's rare.
  • redlink1979
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    Send mats to me 1st then I will craft the items - that's my MO. No leaps of faith here, specially with random players Idk.
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  • FierceSam
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    They send mats... I craft stuff... no mats or the wrong mats or “can I just pay you?” and I don’t craft stuff

    It’s not rocket science and despite their protestations it’s me who is doing them the favour

  • zvavi
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    That's what why I usually craft it white and tell them to upgrade it themselves :sweat_smile:

    But I don't have ESO+ either, which already makes crafting for people X5 more annoying.
  • Lady_Linux
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    Well i did my best to send them a list of items that are due using non specific names AND i decided to not judge them so harshly based on language an inexperience AND i sent them the gear anyway and decideed to right it off for experience and plan better next time.


    I think the thing that really triggered my 'being taken advantage of nerve' was that i couldnt message them that their inbox was so full . That's where i started having my doubts...
    Edited by Lady_Linux on June 10, 2020 2:47PM
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  • Lysette
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Well i did my best to send them a list of items that are due using non specific names AND i decided to to judge them so harshly based on language an inexperience AND i sent them the gear anyway and decideed to right it off for experience and plan better next time.


    I think the thing that really triggered my 'being taken advantage of nerve' was that i couldnt message them that their inbox was so full . That's where i started having my doubts...

    Like I said before, they have probably no idea how many materials are required and what those cost - if they do not craft themselves and have no interest in learning about it, this is very likely - still, this not being reachable is suspicious.
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    This is why I don't craft for others anymore. Unless I know them. And, everyone I know can craft.
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Pretty simple. If I know you in the MMO and I have nothing better to do I’ll craft whatever you want for just the mats. If I know you in real life chances are I’ll just give you the mats up through purple quality also with no charge. If I don’t know you I’m not making gear for you at all.

    Sorry, just been scammed too many times in video games.

    Regardless, no one has to stand by me when I do it.
  • Lady_Linux
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    Regardless, no one has to stand by me when I do it.


    That may be but when i have made armor for people, they often come to me and then go for the mats that i need when asked. rare is the occasion they dont follow me to the guild hall. New players tend to look at all the crafting stations in awe...

    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »

    Regardless, no one has to stand by me when I do it.


    That may be but when i have made armor for people, they often come to me and then go for the mats that i need when asked. rare is the occasion they dont follow me to the guild hall. New players tend to look at all the crafting stations in awe...

    Yup. Like I said, I don’t craft for people I don’t know so when I do it’s usually someone I’ve spend dozens of hours with already in the game. So in that case I usually just tell them to keep killing skeletons and I’ll be back in 15 minutes. 🤣
  • yRaven
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    That's why i only do free craft for friends, if not they need to give all mats and wait for my time to do it, again, if not i just don't do.

    Never waste material for randoms
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