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ZOS please put in a story guide for new players
Iccotak
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This game desperately needs a story guide for new players so then at least they have a path they can choose to follow if they want. They don’t have to do it but at least they’ll know the order of the story.
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.
For one Orsinium moved time forward about one year.
If you play the story in order you will encounter characters from the past who talk to you as if the events of the base game was years ago.
Characters such as;
- Naryu we meet again in Morrowind
- Veya we meet in Morrowind & encounter again in Summerset
- Daren we meet again in Summerset
- Raz we meet again in two different chapters.
- Abnur Tharn & Sai Sahan we meet again in Elsweyr.
- Lyris we meet again in Greymoor
How much time has passed depends on the content the player has completed - that is what the developers were trying to communicate.
I understand that the developers want players to be able to make their own choices but the truth is that right now new players getting into the game don’t know what’s going on because they’re just being thrust into the latest expansion and then exploring all the zones which have a bunch of unrelated stories.
This can especially be frustrating when the base game still accounts for the majority as well as the core content.
It is a mess
Just like zone guides please implement a story guide in the game.
For anyone that is confused about the order of the story consult a post by @VaranisArano
Edited by Iccotak on June 8, 2020 5:05PM There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.
For one Orsinium moved time forward about one year.
If you play the story in order you will encounter characters from the past who talk to you as if the events of the base game was years ago.
Characters such as;
- Naryu we meet again in Morrowind
- Veya we meet in Morrowind & encounter again in Summerset
- Daren we meet again in Summerset
- Raz we meet again in two different chapters.
- Abnur Tharn & Sai Sahan we meet again in Elsweyr.
- Lyris we meet again in Greymoor
How much time has passed depends on the content the player has completed - that is what the developers were trying to communicate.
I understand that the developers want players to be able to make their own choices but the truth is that right now new players getting into the game don’t know what’s going on because they’re just being thrust into the latest expansion and then exploring all the zones which have a bunch of unrelated stories.
This can especially be frustrating when the base game still accounts for the majority as well as the core content.
It is a mess
Just like zone guides please implement a story guide in the game.
For anyone that is confused about the order of the story consult a post by @VaranisArano
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
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If you want a list of quests in order, check out this amazing guide: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/525351/a-clear-step-by-step-guide-to-playing-eso-in-chronological-order9 -
ItsJustHashtag✭✭✭✭I never understood why they just didn’t keep where your new character spawns in the same as that set up the story mode for your faction of choice.1
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✭✭✭✭✭ItsJustHashtag wrote: »I never understood why they just didn’t keep where your new character spawns in the same as that set up the story mode for your faction of choice.
They want to make it clear to new players that they can do the new Chapter content they paid for right away.2 -
ItsJustHashtag✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »ItsJustHashtag wrote: »I never understood why they just didn’t keep where your new character spawns in the same as that set up the story mode for your faction of choice.
They want to make it clear to new players that they can do the new Chapter content they paid for right away.
Still a horrible concept. I think they should tie it into the “skip intro” thing when creating a new character. If you’re able to skip the intro then yes put you in the new zones as you’ve probably already played through. But if not and it’s your first time put you in the starter islands.2 -
NewbieOKS✭✭✭I concur with OP @Iccotak statement. There are also a lot of questions raised/posted in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum as an example. My new guild mates (who apparently are new to ESO) also raised the same questions. Can we put OP concern into consideration?
There have been previous polls and threads raised here if I recall requesting the same concern as well.
Here are the compilations I gathered:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/510995/starting-zone-how-would-you-rather-start-your-game/p1 (big thanks to @mfcostacampos )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516027/wow-are-you-seriously-forcing-people-to-start-in-expansions-of-zenis-choice-for-the-tutorial/p1 (big thanks to @nhisso )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453379/let-players-choose-starting-story-tutorial-elsweyr-edition/p1 (big thanks to @Turelus )
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno
Anyway got this picture from reddit as a guidance (Huge thanks to OP u/ObserverDark)
Here is the link below
https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/gx9hgi/beginners_table_of_contents_for_story_progression/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And also another guidance alternative pinned by the moderators in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum (huge thanks to u/dunlap7 for the reddit thread)
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/fzl8y6/a_guide_to_playing_eso_in_order_based_on_release/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I once read Loremaster Leamon statement but forgot where and when exactly, but I recall that the statement was “all events occurs in 2E 582” I believe the Loremaster need to be summoned to clarify this matter
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.
@ZOS_LeamonTuttle
Edited to add various referencesEdited by NewbieOKS on June 8, 2020 5:57PMhttps://signatur.eso-database.com/17868970/signatur.jpg
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Cronopoly✭✭✭✭✭The conflict of interest is new DLC's and Zos wanting them to be sold Now at full price. Also of note is new player creation location when you own the DLC.0 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This game desperately needs a story guide for new players so then at least they have a path they can choose to follow if they want. They don’t have to do it but at least they’ll know the order of the story.
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.
For one Orsinium moved time forward about one year.
If you play the story in order you will encounter characters from the past who talk to you as if the events of the base game was years ago.
Characters such as;
- Naryu we meet again in Morrowind
- Veya we meet in Morrowind & encounter again in Summerset
- Daren we meet again in Summerset
- Raz we meet again in two different chapters.
- Abnur Tharn & Sai Sahan we meet again in Elsweyr.
- Lyris we meet again in Greymoor
How much time has passed depends on the content the player has completed - that is what the developers were trying to communicate.
I understand that the developers want players to be able to make their own choices but the truth is that right now new players getting into the game don’t know what’s going on because they’re just being thrust into the latest expansion and then exploring all the zones which have a bunch of unrelated stories.
This can especially be frustrating when the base game still accounts for the majority as well as the core content.
It is a mess
Just like zone guides please implement a story guide in the game.
For anyone that is confused about the order of the story consult a post by @VaranisArano
It was literally stated in an official post that everything happens in 2E 582. I certainly don't agree with it, but I was just wanting to clarify that this isn't a "forum theory" it actually is how it is.Edited by Noxavian on June 8, 2020 6:06PM0 -
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✭✭I concur with OP @Iccotak statement. There are also a lot of questions raised/posted in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum as an example. My new guild mates (who apparently are new to ESO) also raised the same questions. Can we put OP concern into consideration?
There have been previous polls and threads raised here if I recall requesting the same concern as well.
Here are the compilations I gathered:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/510995/starting-zone-how-would-you-rather-start-your-game/p1 (big thanks to @mfcostacampos )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516027/wow-are-you-seriously-forcing-people-to-start-in-expansions-of-zenis-choice-for-the-tutorial/p1 (big thanks to @nhisso )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453379/let-players-choose-starting-story-tutorial-elsweyr-edition/p1 (big thanks to @Turelus )
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno
Anyway got this picture from reddit as a guidance (Huge thanks to OP u/ObserverDark)
Here is the link below
https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/gx9hgi/beginners_table_of_contents_for_story_progression/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And also another guidance alternative pinned by the moderators in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum (huge thanks to u/dunlap7 for the reddit thread)
https://www.reddit.com/r/elders582.he djd sonline/comments/fzl8y6/a_guide_to_playing_eso_in_order_based_on_release/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I once read Loremaster Leamon statement but forgot where and when exactly, but I recall that the statement was “all events occurs in 2E 582” I believe the Loremaster need to be summoned to clarify this matter
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.@ZOS_LeamonTuttle
Edited to add various references
he did indeed say such.0 -
Foefaller✭✭✭I concur with OP @Iccotak statement. There are also a lot of questions raised/posted in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum as an example. My new guild mates (who apparently are new to ESO) also raised the same questions. Can we put OP concern into consideration?
There have been previous polls and threads raised here if I recall requesting the same concern as well.
Here are the compilations I gathered:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/510995/starting-zone-how-would-you-rather-start-your-game/p1 (big thanks to @mfcostacampos )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516027/wow-are-you-seriously-forcing-people-to-start-in-expansions-of-zenis-choice-for-the-tutorial/p1 (big thanks to @nhisso )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453379/let-players-choose-starting-story-tutorial-elsweyr-edition/p1 (big thanks to @Turelus )
ZOS_JessicaFolsom ZOS_GinaBruno
Anyway got this picture from reddit as a guidance (Huge thanks to OP u/ObserverDark)
Here is the link below
https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/gx9hgi/beginners_table_of_contents_for_story_progression/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And also another guidance alternative pinned by the moderators in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum (huge thanks to u/dunlap7 for the reddit thread)
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/fzl8y6/a_guide_to_playing_eso_in_order_based_on_release/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I once read Loremaster Leamon statement but forgot where and when exactly, but I recall that the statement was “all events occurs in 2E 582” I believe the Loremaster need to be summoned to clarify this matter
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this. ZOS_LeamonTuttle
Edited to add various references
Some extra labeling as to what "story" each of the DLCs belong to would be great. Though what I really think is missing is new dialog in previous content to acknowledge that you've already met (like Lyris recognizing you in the main quest if you've done Greymoor, or some explanation as to how the events of the Clockwork City and Morrowind could still occur if you've already done Summerset.)
As for the whole "everything in happening in 2E 582" thing, I took it more as to mean every character's story starts in 2E 582, and from that point all the major events occurred in the order that you character experienced them (assuming you didn't break sequence in the original alliance storylines), rather than the order they were released.1 -
cheemers✭✭✭✭✭I concur with OP @Iccotak statement. There are also a lot of questions raised/posted in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum as an example. My new guild mates (who apparently are new to ESO) also raised the same questions. Can we put OP concern into consideration?
There have been previous polls and threads raised here if I recall requesting the same concern as well.
Here are the compilations I gathered:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/510995/starting-zone-how-would-you-rather-start-your-game/p1 (big thanks to @mfcostacampos )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516027/wow-are-you-seriously-forcing-people-to-start-in-expansions-of-zenis-choice-for-the-tutorial/p1 (big thanks to @nhisso )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453379/let-players-choose-starting-story-tutorial-elsweyr-edition/p1 (big thanks to @Turelus )
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno
Anyway got this picture from reddit as a guidance (Huge thanks to OP u/ObserverDark)
Here is the link below
https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/gx9hgi/beginners_table_of_contents_for_story_progression/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And also another guidance alternative pinned by the moderators in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum (huge thanks to u/dunlap7 for the reddit thread)
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/fzl8y6/a_guide_to_playing_eso_in_order_based_on_release/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I once read Loremaster Leamon statement but forgot where and when exactly, but I recall that the statement was “all events occurs in 2E 582” I believe the Loremaster need to be summoned to clarify this matter
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.@ZOS_LeamonTuttle
Edited to add various references
How is Dark Brotherhood part of the Daedric Wars arc?Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCDQ7FrJ0AjMt2auffLEf_Pw
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The person that asked the question which was answered with the “2E 582”, clarified that answer in this thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6809423
Which they said that time passed is relative to the player.0 -
Foefaller✭✭✭I concur with OP @Iccotak statement. There are also a lot of questions raised/posted in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum as an example. My new guild mates (who apparently are new to ESO) also raised the same questions. Can we put OP concern into consideration?
There have been previous polls and threads raised here if I recall requesting the same concern as well.
Here are the compilations I gathered:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/510995/starting-zone-how-would-you-rather-start-your-game/p1 (big thanks to @mfcostacampos )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516027/wow-are-you-seriously-forcing-people-to-start-in-expansions-of-zenis-choice-for-the-tutorial/p1 (big thanks to @nhisso )
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/453379/let-players-choose-starting-story-tutorial-elsweyr-edition/p1 (big thanks to @Turelus )
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno
Anyway got this picture from reddit as a guidance (Huge thanks to OP u/ObserverDark)
Here is the link below
https://reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/gx9hgi/beginners_table_of_contents_for_story_progression/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
And also another guidance alternative pinned by the moderators in r/elderscrollsonline reddit forum (huge thanks to u/dunlap7 for the reddit thread)
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/fzl8y6/a_guide_to_playing_eso_in_order_based_on_release/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I once read Loremaster Leamon statement but forgot where and when exactly, but I recall that the statement was “all events occurs in 2E 582” I believe the Loremaster need to be summoned to clarify this matter
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.@ZOS_LeamonTuttle
Edited to add various references
How is Dark Brotherhood part of the Daedric Wars arc?
Naryu and Razum-Dar's quests, particularly The Sweetroll Killer, hints very heavily about the storylines for that arc. And unlike the teaser in Orsinium, doesn't have any conditions that would prevent it from showing up.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agreed with this.
Although ZOS is really in a hard place with this one, they want to sell the game as a "go anywhere do anything" but they've written a bunch of narratives which have a set path. If they advertise an order you're meant to play the game in then they break the illusion they've been marketing that you can jump in any time and pick up any story without needing to know the rest.
It part that ideal is true, but for many RPG fans it's not the way they want to play an RPG.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."2 -
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✭✭Yeah. Would be nice to see the original start come back as an option.
And I completely missed out on the Morrowind start.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!1 -
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✭✭✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »Under the "Quest Starters": Have one entry for each of the Chapter story arcs.
So new players know where to go when they are trying to look for, say, the original main quest.
Or know what the story release order is.
Let players choose to start each Chapter with either the Tutorial (which is geared toward new toons / "new players") or the Prologue Quest (if there is one, for players wanting to continue with an existing character).
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✭✭✭✭✭Personally I -always- do all the stories in order (except Imperial City, because its too ganky)... and I for one would have preferred if they had just made the "original progression" the -standard- for the game, but with options to skip ahead for those who want to. But alas... that's not how it went I guess.1 -
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✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »ItsJustHashtag wrote: »I never understood why they just didn’t keep where your new character spawns in the same as that set up the story mode for your faction of choice.
They want to make it clear to new players that they can do the new Chapter content they paid for right away.
What I don't get is where I somehow thought that some of the DLCs are slated before the Planemeld. I distinctly remember a lot of hubbub about one of the DLCs/Chapters starting before the base game, but bleeds right into it and I can't remember which or why.
I definitely do agree with the OP though. There needs to be some kind of official guide of some sort that clears up the chronological wishywashy feeling. 0 -
NewbieOKS✭✭✭Adding up and bookmark @NeoGriz detailed guide. Huge shoutout and thanks!
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/525351/a-clear-step-by-step-guide-to-playing-eso-in-chronological-orderhttps://signatur.eso-database.com/17868970/signatur.jpg
ESO-Database provides statistics for Elder Scrolls Online characters and guilds. This information is collected by the ESO-Database Client and ESO Database AddOn https://www.eso-database.com/en/ Huge thanks to @Keldor for this amazing add-on1 -
UGotBenched91✭✭✭✭✭This game desperately needs a story guide for new players so then at least they have a path they can choose to follow if they want. They don’t have to do it but at least they’ll know the order of the story.
There is a popular idea on the forums right now that everything is taking place within the same year of 2E 582.
This is incorrect, and if you play through the story and its canonical order then you would know this.
For one Orsinium moved time forward about one year.
If you play the story in order you will encounter characters from the past who talk to you as if the events of the base game was years ago.
Characters such as;
- Naryu we meet again in Morrowind
- Veya we meet in Morrowind & encounter again in Summerset
- Daren we meet again in Summerset
- Raz we meet again in two different chapters.
- Abnur Tharn & Sai Sahan we meet again in Elsweyr.
- Lyris we meet again in Greymoor
How much time has passed depends on the content the player has completed - that is what the developers were trying to communicate.
I understand that the developers want players to be able to make their own choices but the truth is that right now new players getting into the game don’t know what’s going on because they’re just being thrust into the latest expansion and then exploring all the zones which have a bunch of unrelated stories.
This can especially be frustrating when the base game still accounts for the majority as well as the core content.
It is a mess
Just like zone guides please implement a story guide in the game.
For anyone that is confused about the order of the story consult a post by @VaranisArano
Yep. I agree 100%. I got my dad playing the game. I figured it would be a nice bonding activity as we use to play lineage 2 together back in the day. He quit after a week because he couldn’t figure out how to follow the right quests because there’s so many options.2 -
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✭✭✭✭Maybe ZOS should consider making a tutorial/starting area for new players that is separate from the base game & chapters - just like WoW did.
Make a separate more up-to-date tutorial island that introduces players to the basics of the game
- Combat mechanics
- NPC Mentor (who dies at the end of the island)
- Crafting
- Fighters, Mages, & Undaunted guilds
- Alliance War storyline
- a PvP area/instance including keeps & siege weapons
- a Public dungeon
The island could have its own storyline separate from the rest of the game.
Once they reach the end of the main quest they unlock the Public Dungeon which will be the Final Battle.
Once they finish the island they are about level 10-15 and they have the freedom to choose where to go.
The old tutorials are reworked into intro starter quests. No confusion, clear direction, and an engaging start to the game.
Players making their second character can choose from all the intro areas.Edited by Iccotak on June 12, 2020 9:13PM0
