vMA should not cause ptsd...why is this even acceptable in a game?

Recent · June 2020

Causing mental stress and trauma is now acceptable in gaming? Would anyone pay money to get a mental illness ? Im seeing too many players finally express the trauma that is vma and not to mention the shame caused to those that cant get it for health reasons or physical injury.

This vma should be made shorter...maybe 5 fights that are challenging rather than the traumatic 10....something has to be done to stop players getting vma pstd.
The word ' nauseating' has been used often to describe the vma grind

Ty for reading 😊

Milchbart · June 2020

Recent wrote: »

Causing mental stress and trauma is now acceptable in gaming? Would anyone pay money to get a mental illness ?

... some people pay money to get a physical illness ... smoking, drugs ... etc.

sigsergv · June 2020

I don't play some veteran content (including vMA) for that reason exactly. It brings way too much stress I can handle. So just ignore it.

P.S.
The same for PvP, I hate it with passion. Extremely stressful.

Alcast · June 2020

Try normal mode.

colossalvoids · June 2020

It's not mandatory content to do. At all. If it is for you then it's nothing different to a vet dlc hm progression really.

They made nMA drop weapons for a reason.

PeterUnlustig · June 2020

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515104/the-easiest-veteran-maelstrom-solo-content-build-in-the-harrowstorm-patch/p1
Seriously if you use this build, VMA is a piece of cake and you can afk most waves until boss fight. I personally watch netflix and hold left mouse in every stage until i can see that the boss spawns. Build is still up to date.

Uvi_AUT · June 2020

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not mandatory content to do. At all. If it is for you then it's nothing different to a vet dlc hm progression really.

They made nMA drop weapons for a reason.

Maelstrom bow literally does 5k DPS for doing absolutely nothing other than activating a skill every 11 seconds.
[snip]

[edited for bashing]

zvavi · June 2020

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not mandatory content to do. At all. If it is for you then it's nothing different to a vet dlc hm progression really.

They made nMA drop weapons for a reason.

Maelstrom bow literally does 5k DPS for doing absolutely nothing other than activating a skill every 11 seconds.
[snip]

And it drops in normal mode ... The perfected one adds maybe 300 dps (maybe) and is totally not mandatory. The fire staff literally adds you 0 dps for the perfected from non perfected, how much more not mandatory can it get?

colossalvoids · June 2020

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not mandatory content to do. At all. If it is for you then it's nothing different to a vet dlc hm progression really.

They made nMA drop weapons for a reason.

Maelstrom bow literally does 5k DPS for doing absolutely nothing other than activating a skill every 11 seconds.
[snip]

nMA.

zvavi · June 2020

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

PeterUnlustig wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515104/the-easiest-veteran-maelstrom-solo-content-build-in-the-harrowstorm-patch/p1
Seriously if you use this build, VMA is a piece of cake and you can afk most waves until boss fight. I personally watch netflix and hold left mouse in every stage until i can see that the boss spawns. Build is still up to date.

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So someone sent a build he found super helpful to pass the content (with the example of him not even paying attention to the screen sometimes) and you call that guy smug?

Smug would have been something like this:
"Ye just roll a magblade i touched the magblade i didn't use for half a year and did flawless" <--- this is smug.

vestahls · June 2020

I think if you take the quest, you can leave the arena at any point and when you come back it will have saved your progress. So you don't have to do it all in one go.

PeterUnlustig · June 2020

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

PeterUnlustig wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515104/the-easiest-veteran-maelstrom-solo-content-build-in-the-harrowstorm-patch/p1
Seriously if you use this build, VMA is a piece of cake and you can afk most waves until boss fight. I personally watch netflix and hold left mouse in every stage until i can see that the boss spawns. Build is still up to date.

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Try that build and you can be that smug guy. Its the build making vMA that easy not me being a good pve player. I dont even know most of the mechanics or tactics, i just heavy attack.

Uvi_AUT · June 2020

zvavi wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not mandatory content to do. At all. If it is for you then it's nothing different to a vet dlc hm progression really.

They made nMA drop weapons for a reason.

Maelstrom bow literally does 5k DPS for doing absolutely nothing other than activating a skill every 11 seconds.
[snip]

And it drops in normal mode ... The perfected one adds maybe 300 dps (maybe) and is totally not mandatory. The fire staff literally adds you 0 dps for the perfected from non perfected, how much more not mandatory can it get?

Does it? Since when? I really didnt know that.

zvavi · June 2020

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

It's not mandatory content to do. At all. If it is for you then it's nothing different to a vet dlc hm progression really.

They made nMA drop weapons for a reason.

Maelstrom bow literally does 5k DPS for doing absolutely nothing other than activating a skill every 11 seconds.
[snip]

And it drops in normal mode ... The perfected one adds maybe 300 dps (maybe) and is totally not mandatory. The fire staff literally adds you 0 dps for the perfected from non perfected, how much more not mandatory can it get?

Does it? Since when? I really didnt know that.

If you are on pc, it does since greymoor, if console, you will have to wait for a bit more.

Uvi_AUT · June 2020

zvavi wrote: »

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

PeterUnlustig wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515104/the-easiest-veteran-maelstrom-solo-content-build-in-the-harrowstorm-patch/p1
Seriously if you use this build, VMA is a piece of cake and you can afk most waves until boss fight. I personally watch netflix and hold left mouse in every stage until i can see that the boss spawns. Build is still up to date.

[Quoted post was removed]

So someone sent a build he found super helpful to pass the content (with the example of him not even paying attention to the screen sometimes) and you call that guy smug?

Smug would have been something like this:
"Ye just roll a magblade i touched the magblade i didn't use for half a year and did flawless" <--- this is smug.

He didnt say "Try the 1 Bar Pet Sorcerer Build if youre struggling". That would have been helpful. He said "I watch Netflix and hold the Left Mousebutton in VMA". If thats not smug I dont know what is.

Raudgrani · June 2020

So now we should "nerf" Maelstrom Arena even more? Like, making weapons drop from normal wasn't even enough? Only time VMA is a bit stressful according to me, is when you are doing "score runs" (because you can't even go to the toilet or you'll ruin your score), and perhaps Flawless ones (obvious why). What's there to get stressed out about there if you don't?

But very well, let's make everything really, really easy. So that playing the game practically becomes like viewing a trailer of the game!

Josira · June 2020

Uvi_AUT wrote: »

PeterUnlustig wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/515104/the-easiest-veteran-maelstrom-solo-content-build-in-the-harrowstorm-patch/p1
Seriously if you use this build, VMA is a piece of cake and you can afk most waves until boss fight. I personally watch netflix and hold left mouse in every stage until i can see that the boss spawns. Build is still up to date.

[Quoted post was removed]

Kinky

dont mind me I dont have anything to actually add other then back on console,a toxic group I ran with gave me extreme social anxiety and constant paranoia and distrust of others,to the point my own self worth has gone to shite as I fail to hold onto the best damn relationship ive ever had

MJallday · June 2020

If content is causing you MH issues then you need to step away from the content

Don’t blame the difficulty

It IS difficult- my first clear took months of learning . Now I can do it in less than 35 mins consistently . Practice practice practice and it’ll come

Mindcr0w · June 2020

This game has an extreme lack of challenging & rewarding solo content as it is. The challenge of vMA should absolutely not be reduced because some people either can't or (more likely) don't want to put the work into learning how to do it.

Josira · June 2020

Perhaps your problem lies with the fact that VMA for you, does not tick all the boxes to what it means to be a vampire?
Perhaps you need to find the thing in eso for you,that does infact,tick all the boxes as to what it means to be a vampire?

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · June 2020

VMA and the normal version can be done 1 arena at a time if you have the quest I don't think it ever resets.

You can go in there and treat each stage like a mini-arena. You get a reward at the end of each level and then a final reward if you reach the final level.

However I completely agree that they should just remove all the trash packs in exchange for no scoring. I wouldn't mind killing the 10 bosses but all the trash rounds are just infuriating - especially with VDSA / VBRP.

But also @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_RichLambert Please add a token system if you make any future content like this. 40+ runs before dropping a single resto this time is not fun.

Uvi_AUT · June 2020

Mindcr0w wrote: »

This game has an extreme lack of challenging & rewarding solo content as it is. The challenge of vMA should absolutely not be reduced because some people either can't or (more likely) don't want to put the work into learning how to do it.

I concur. The difficulty is right as it is. An now with Maelstromweapons apparently dropping on normal there really is no reason to nerf it.

BeamsForDemacia · June 2020

thank you , finally someone who understands how I feel all the time , but it’s not only vma tbh , dungeons are also extremely stressful especially on vet , sometimes I even have to stop cuz pressure is too hard
I tried a raid one time and it was horrible , so much running around and that was normal I think , dunno why they leave the risks of vet raids and dungeons in the game , it’s dangerous

Everstorm · June 2020

Maybe the OP needs to have a conversation with actual PTSD patients before throwing such terms around. Talk about your first world problems...

Olupajmibanan · June 2020

Farm normal -> get the non-perfect maelstrom bow and inferno staff -> profit. And please close question of vMA for good.

Xologamer · June 2020

Recent wrote: »

Causing mental stress and trauma is now acceptable in gaming? Would anyone pay money to get a mental illness ? Im seeing too many players finally express the trauma that is vma and not to mention the shame caused to those that cant get it for health reasons or physical injury.

This vma should be made shorter...maybe 5 fights that are challenging rather than the traumatic 10....something has to be done to stop players getting vma pstd.
The word ' nauseating' has been used often to describe the vma grind

Ty for reading 😊

something bad was done because of mimimi players like u now u get the weapons in normal thats way more than enougth

Mindcr0w · June 2020

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

thank you , finally someone who understands how I feel all the time , but it’s not only vma tbh , dungeons are also extremely stressful especially on vet , sometimes I even have to stop cuz pressure is too hard
I tried a raid one time and it was horrible , so much running around and that was normal I think , dunno why they leave the risks of vet raids and dungeons in the game , it’s dangerous

Assuming any of the above is true, it is 100% a "you problem ". No videogame will cause anyone that kind of stress unless they have some sort of underlying issue. Maybe see a therapist about your stress disorder or whatever is causing this.

Josira · June 2020

Ok on a serious note,I understand pressure getting to you with this sort of content,I would say the best advice is to find ways to not do it. if its not enjoyable,you likely wont enjoy vet trials or other end game pve stuff that the VMA gear your farming is meant for. This isnt a go at you,or being smug.
I for one,feel too much pressure doing that sort of pve content too,and so I stick to stuff I am more comfortable with,like battlegrounds(rip duos) or other things I can do at my own pace. most gear I use is stuff I can buy,although I dont have a lot of gold like a lot of people,with 100k being like christmas for me lol.

gatekeeper13 · June 2020

I can't tell if the OP is being sarcastic and deliberately exaggerating but I don't VMA causes that much of a stress. I used to struggle with it but now have done it like 50 times with my magsorc and a build that almost carries you. The last 20 times were like doing it on easy mode, not even normal.

Most stress I get from it, is the moment before I get to open the final reward chest. I am always like "God, plz let it drop Inferno staff..."

I am writing all these to help you realize that it's just a game and since it's a game, no stress is needed. It doesnt matter if you die 0, 1 or 30 times. It's a game, you play to have fun.

Ryath_Waylander · June 2020

Sooo, I take it the OP, and all the people who agree with them are so traumatised by MA, that they seem to have contracted amnesia? Or did Greymoor drop an extra round? Last I ran it there were only 9. Either that, or they haven't doneVMA/MA and just want to make noise on the forums....
Also PTSD is real and sustained from life changing trauma. Exaggerate much?

Raudgrani · June 2020

Mindcr0w wrote: »

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

thank you , finally someone who understands how I feel all the time , but it’s not only vma tbh , dungeons are also extremely stressful especially on vet , sometimes I even have to stop cuz pressure is too hard
I tried a raid one time and it was horrible , so much running around and that was normal I think , dunno why they leave the risks of vet raids and dungeons in the game , it’s dangerous

Assuming any of the above is true, it is 100% a "you problem ". No videogame will cause anyone that kind of stress unless they have some sort of underlying issue. Maybe see a therapist about your stress disorder or whatever is causing this.

Do you remember how Imperial City used to be, I'm ready to agree with you in general - but IC back in the days WAS pure PTSD! Seriously, I had problems falling asleep after an IC night earlier, because I was so riled up. LOL