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Nightblade Skill Swap - Blur + Veiled Strike

MindOfTheSwarm
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I have been recently invested in proposing a huge rework to Nightblades and have received overwhelming support from the community in regards to their thoughts, criticism and suggestions. With that being said, it was suggested that I should focus on one idea to get the ball moving as it were. I feel that Blur is a defensive skill and fits more with the Shadow role play, while Veiled Strike is a DPS skill and fits more in line with Assassination with it being an 'ambush' style ability.

This brings me to this poll's question: Should Blur currently in the Assassination skill line be swapped with Veiled Strike?

Nightblade Skill Swap - Blur + Veiled Strike 30 votes

Yes, Blur and Veiled Strike should be swapped.
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SolarikenIruil_ESOCarsinomusTravestynoxCerboltAnyronOldaranessDruid40laissezfaireDT-ARRIron_BlurrtonyblackOWLTHEMADMindOfTheSwarmVoxAdActa 15 votes
No, Blur and Veiled Strike should stay in their current skill trees.
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StxHyperRagnaroek93kollege14a5NelothVietfoxMr_WolfeMyconosMashmalloMan 9 votes
Either is fine. No Preference.
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actoshhakanOrjixYamensteinJobooAGSzECHO 6 votes
  • Yamenstein
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    Either is fine. No Preference.
    Should it? Probably. I don't see what's wrong with it either way.

    I doubt ZOS will change it either way though. 1) It doesn't change much 2) I hope they are working on more important things
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  • MindOfTheSwarm
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    Yes, Blur and Veiled Strike should be swapped.
    Yamenstein wrote: »
    Should it? Probably. I don't see what's wrong with it either way.

    I doubt ZOS will change it either way though. 1) It doesn't change much 2) I hope they are working on more important things

    I hope they are working on other things too, but a simple swap is not that much work surely? Respect your input though.
  • Vietfox
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    No, Blur and Veiled Strike should stay in their current skill trees.
    The main reason why i think it should be as it is right now it's because of the Dark Vigor passive. Not every NB runs fear, leaving Veiled Strike as the only shadow skill being used on the frontbar.
  • Ragnaroek93
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    No, Blur and Veiled Strike should stay in their current skill trees.
    Wouldn't help Nb at all, in fact it reads like a nerf if I can't proc my resistance buff with Veiled Strike anymore.

    Moving minor vuln from Ambush to Mark Target and buffing the Nb execute would be much more helpful than a pure change for the sake of consistancy (we had enough of this and the game went straight up downwards when ZOS came up with this skill audit nonsense).
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  • MashmalloMan
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    No, Blur and Veiled Strike should stay in their current skill trees.
    Wouldn't this suck for damage dealers.. your basically asking to remove free major resolve just from using your spammable, you know, the ability you spam the most? The value behind that is amazing, you don't need to use a defensive skill to get a mandatory defensive buff.

    That being said, I don't main a NB and I've seen this request for years. I personally like it the way it is due to the above reason. Is 2% crit really needed?

    I do recognize the theme of the 2 skills make more sense to be switched however.
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  • hakan
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    Either is fine. No Preference.
    People gave reason for the removal of major fracture from suprise attack was because it enabled major resistance but thats ***.

    Tons of skills do have overloaded stuff why this skill should be excluded? Esp on a class with no other defense lol.

    Nah, we need another stuff for the Mark, give some of our buffs back ( or all, cuz looking at warden and necro rn they have almst all the buffs they can get), remove that dumb cast time. Ty.
  • Deathlord92
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    You have some good ideas in that post mate but honestly this was the one I didn’t like because if surprise attack goes to the assassin skill line it’s not proc major resolve no more.
  • MindOfTheSwarm
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    Yes, Blur and Veiled Strike should be swapped.
    You have some good ideas in that post mate but honestly this was the one I didn’t like because if surprise attack goes to the assassin skill line it’s not proc major resolve no more.

    Yeah, maybe I should have picked something else lol.
  • MindOfTheSwarm
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    Yes, Blur and Veiled Strike should be swapped.
    I still stand by my vote though. I understand the potential loss of Resolve however.
  • MindOfTheSwarm
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    Yes, Blur and Veiled Strike should be swapped.
    This change however, would allow the opportunity for Major Fracture on Surprise Attacks and perhaps Major Breach on Concealed Weapon. I suppose it depends on what the community wants more. I am in the Fracture camp. You cannot have Fracture and Breach on it, while it is in the Shadow line as then it become overloaded. Hence my choice.
  • Deathlord92
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    This change however, would allow the opportunity for Major Fracture on Surprise Attacks and perhaps Major Breach on Concealed Weapon. I suppose it depends on what the community wants more. I am in the Fracture camp. You cannot have Fracture and Breach on it, while it is in the Shadow line as then it become overloaded. Hence my choice.
    If we got major fracture back on surprise attack from this change it’s something I’d consider definitely.
    Edited by Deathlord92 on June 3, 2020 2:35PM
  • Iron_Blurr
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    Yes, Blur and Veiled Strike should be swapped.
    I think they should switch the skill lines and add major fracture back on surprise attack.
    Also put minor vulnerability on mark target instead of the gap closer.
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