So people are down on the new expansion release Greymoor
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dbgager
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What are the issues people do not like. I am probably going to purchase at some point but it seems like it is not being well received.
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Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The vampire rework is utter trash and a shell of what it could of been.
Some quests aren't properly voice synced and are lacking voice acting all together.
The quality just really isn't there this expansion tbh.
Also from what I've heard the main story is pretty meh.48 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭On the plus side, @dbgager, the world building was excellent this time around ... Blackreach is visually stunning once you step into it.
A lot of last week's issues have already been fixed. Still some pending fixes for things such as the higher level Antiquity digs.11 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »On the plus side, @dbgager, the world building was excellent this time around ... Blackreach is visually stunning once you step into it.
A lot of last week's issues have already been fixed. Still some pending fixes for things such as the higher level Antiquity digs.
This thread is asking about what people don't like about it specifically.14 -
DreamsUnderStars✭✭✭✭✭Harrow storms are too random.
There are more mobs per square inch in western Skyrim than any other expansion.16 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The vampire rework is utter trash and a shell of what it could of been.
Some quests aren't properly voice synced and are lacking voice acting all together.
The quality just really isn't there this expansion tbh.
Also from what I've heard the main story is pretty meh.
I wouldn't blame Greymoor chapter itself for the sound issues; I believe that is more patch related because there have been issues outside of Western Skyrim. Last night in vSS, Lokkestiiz continued to roar like he was doing breath even when the fight had not been started. Audible dialogue has been dropping out in the middle of a conversation, etc. Whether you get the chapter or not, you'll probably be encountering these issues.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
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vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGSpoilerIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS2 -
SeaGtGruff✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Personally, I'm enjoying it a lot, although I haven't played through nearly as much of it as other people have.
In my experience, some people like to complain no matter how good something is (that is, they tend to look for faults), while other people dislike complaining no matter how bad something is (that is, they tend to overlook faults).
Note that I'm speaking in general, such as when they go out to eat at a restaurant, or watch a movie, or do anything-- including playing a computer game. It's all about attitude and how different people tend to adopt either a positive or a negative attitude when reacting to the same things.
Mind you, I'm not suggesting that one attitude is better or more correct than the other; I'm just saying YMMV.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!5 -
Anhedonie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Quests and story are not up to par. A lot of tropes and plot armour. Lack originality.
Vampire rework is terrible.
New sets are doodoo.
New trial is ok, but that's about it.
Trial skin is...how that even managed to pass quality control?
Servers are melting.
Surprisingly, I don't hate antiquity system as much as I thought, but for people that aren't into mini games this might be a turn off.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.28 -
SidraWillowsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My experience has not been particularly positive. I worry about not having much to do in a week or two when I'm done scrying.- Western Skyrim is lackluster for me. TES V is my favorite game of all time, but even there, the landscape is kinda meh. That's made up for entirely by the feel of the area/game- sort of desolate and lonely but amazing for exploration. There's just no way that an MMO can replicate this feeling. I didn't expect it to, just explaining why I'm not a fan.
- I don't know if this is just me, but I find Blackreach to be really disorienting, or at least the parts that are different from Skyrim Blackreach. It feels very small and when I go down there, and I just want out immediately. I have never had these sort of claustrophobia issues in a game before.
- There aren't any sets worth using from the Kyne's Aegis trial, so to me personally there's no real reason to go there often
- I use the Maelstrom staves and the bow. Since the perfected versions don't have bonuses worth using, there's really no reason to grind them. Honestly, at this point I'd welcome useful new sets outside of the Mythic items just so I have something new to do when I tire of antiquities.
- I'm really enjoying the antiquities system right now, so that's a plus. I worry that myself and other players are going to grind hardcore for the next month and then either burn out or run out of things that we want. I'm hoping that they're planning to add new ones fairly regularly- in an ideal (but probably not realistic) world, I'd love to see a system like the luxury furniture vendor where five new leads are introduced weekly. I assume that would overwhelm/break something though
In the end it feels hollow, like they totally phoned this in. My main guild is very small and I feel like it's falling apart due to a few members leaving pre-Greymoor and others not having anything to do. No one is really on anymore and that makes me really, really sad as well, which is probably contributing to the "hollow" feeling. I'm surrounded by other players, but none of them are guildies...Edited by SidraWillowsky on June 1, 2020 6:03PM21 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'll wait for it to go on sale. I'm not paying the same price as Elsweyr or Morrowind for a Chapter that has even less gameplay changes than Summerset.23 -
Taleof2Cities wrote: »On the plus side, @dbgager, the world building was excellent this time around ... Blackreach is visually stunning once you step into it.
A lot of last week's issues have already been fixed. Still some pending fixes for things such as the higher level Antiquity digs.
This is the problem with games now a days... they focus on fluff graphics... first game i played on the first pc i bought (tandy 1000 bought used from a lady who bought it from radio shack had an 8088 processor) was from the forgoten realms series for ad&d (pools of radiance, curse of the azure bonds, ravenloft to name a few). i had cga graphics but the story and the gameplay were excellent... fastforward 30 years and even the games under the ad&d titles are trash compared to those early ones... oh yeah the graphics are fantastic and wow everyone but theres little else. It was a big leap for me to start playing elderscrolls as it was so different from anything i had played but now this eso and these mmos in general are a pale comparison to those early single player rpgs.After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.8 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Not been much into vampires, they are way more niche now.The vampire rework is utter trash and a shell of what it could of been.
Some quests aren't properly voice synced and are lacking voice acting all together.
The quality just really isn't there this expansion tbh.
Also from what I've heard the main story is pretty meh.
I actually enjoyed the main quest a lot, but yes on release Lyris was not voiced for me so I did some side quests.
This was an bad idea as lots of the locations are reused. Now this is not new An delve in Grathwood is used both in the main story and Elsweyr prequel and obviously the delve quest. But doing side quest first kind of mess up the storytelling here.
Side quests, well here Elsweyr was much more into joking with Alfiq who was drunk or in bags and Raz with three ladies, 4 with this one who has an Raz senche cub.
Yes just like his father.
Greymore was more somber, here this one prefered Elsweyr and this one is obvious bias
still miss some side quests. however. And blackreach, well I thought I got lost in it in Skyrim, yes I cold port out but i tough it was an public dungeon. An small part of it is an public dungeon, not done it yet.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭thissocalledflower wrote: »
This is the problem with games now a days... they focus on fluff graphics... first game i played on the first pc i bought (tandy 1000 bought used from a lady who bought it from radio shack had an 8088 processor) was from the forgoten realms series for ad&d (pools of radiance, curse of the azure bonds, ravenloft to name a few). i had cga graphics but the story and the gameplay were excellent... fastforward 30 years and even the games under the ad&d titles are trash compared to those early ones... oh yeah the graphics are fantastic and wow everyone but theres little else.
On the other hand, every game that comes out that isn't Super Shiny tends to get piles of hyperbole-laden "what is this 1990's crap, it looks like Playstation 2 graphics, why isn't it using <list of latest DX14/$2k GPU features>, lazy devs!" posts. /eyeroll
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SidraWillowsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Not been much into vampires, they are way more niche now.
I actually enjoyed the main quest a lot, but yes on release Lyris was not voiced for me so I did some side quests.
This was an bad idea as lots of the locations are reused. Now this is not new An delve in Grathwood is used both in the main story and Elsweyr prequel and obviously the delve quest. But doing side quest first kind of mess up the storytelling here.
Side quests, well here Elsweyr was much more into joking with Alfiq who was drunk or in bags and Raz with three ladies, 4 with this one who has an Raz senche cub.
Yes just like his father.
Greymore was more somber, here this one prefered Elsweyr and this one is obvious bias still miss some side quests. however. And blackreach, well I thought I got lost in it in Skyrim, yes I cold port out but i tough it was an public dungeon. An small part of it is an public dungeon, not done it yet.
Random but.... is that Khajiit you? If so, what head style are you wearing?1 -
Hurbster✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It just seems smaller (I believe dividing up the game world to such a large degree was a mistake) and to be quite frank, rushed. The storytelling seems to have taken a step down in quality (YMMV of course). As has already been mentioned it seems to be as if you are almost punished for exploring on your own. I would also posit that it's not that new-player friendly.
It doesn't help that we already have had two big chunks of Skyrim in the game since launch so going 'back to Skyrim' isn't really a thing.
As for future expansions, it looks like we are going to see Markath. So more of the same then. Hopefully, we will see more of Skyrim and not a tiny map and more Blackreach.
I mean it's Skyrim, I was just thinking we would have gotten something larger in scope.So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.4 -
Noxavian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Quests and story are not up to par. A lot of tropes and plot armour. Lack originality.
Vampire rework is terrible.
New sets are doodoo.
New trial is ok, but that's about it.
Trial skin is...how that even managed to pass quality control?
Servers are melting.
Surprisingly, I don't hate antiquity system as much as I thought, but for people that aren't into mini games this might be a turn off.
Imagine having a vampire themed year with the only trial we're getting all year not having ANY vampire themed rewards.... Despite the final boss literally being a vamp lord8 -
Hurbster✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭While I'm on the subject, Harrowstorms don't seem to be worth the trouble they are to do. Both in terms of actually doing them (yay random) and the rewards you get from the Harrowstorms and the daily rewards.So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.7 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The zone is drab and dreary, harrowstorms are broken, drop rate is the worst of any DLC I can recall. The sound quality is so bad now that it sounds like you are playing underwater. Vampire and werewolf reworks are disappointing. And they have gone out of their way to add weird stuff just to get reactions. (Drunks are actually vomiting green puke in front of you, and I found a guy on his knees repeatedly stabbing a dead animal over and over again.... what the heck?)8 -
Kagukan✭✭✭✭✭
✭The biggest issue for me so far is the storms. They are too hard to chase around the map. Thankfully some kind people are calling them out as they spawn. If not for that I don't think anyone would even bother with them. Some kind of indication on the map when one is active is needed.4 -
alewis478b14_ESO✭✭✭- Solitude has maybe the best crafting area setup for writs
- The bears smiling while scratching their backs on the trees
Those are the highlights....4 -
Animus-ESO✭✭✭✭✭As long as the expansions are easy new player zones I will never be interested in playing them. End of story. This is an MMO not a single player experience for jimmy the 10 yr old. Games rated -M- should be tailored to make a memorable experience for you and your friends.Dude Where's My Guar?10 -
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✭alewis478b14_ESO wrote: »- Solitude has maybe the best crafting area setup for writs
- The bears smiling while scratching their backs on the trees
Those are the highlights....
The bears did that in Orsinium which is a loooong time ago at this point7 -
dhboy123✭✭✭✭The whole expansion has been rushed to accommodate the launch date.
Feels more like a DLC than an expansion. I'm replaying through elseweyr and summerset for the second time and they both feel much better.
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Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Havent touched the story, sure it's great. I will prob get to it at some point.
The Vamp rework is getting mixed reviews at best. One of the most common complaints is that people felt like they had to be a vamp to be competitive. The passives where stronger than the draw backs, so especially in PVE, almost every end game magic DPS was a vamp (heck so were a lot of stamina, cuz why not).
The wanted to make the skill line more robust and in depth, so it wasnt such an after though, with both upsides and downsides. Well, from a mag DPS perspective (a huge chunk of the PVE community), it's still a requirement on 5/6 classes to pull top DPS.
The new trial was trifecta'ed on the first day. Without HM, it is 3 stack and burns. Least impressive trial to date in my opinion. Our group cleared regular vet on the first day of PTS in about an hour. Very bland.
The scrying/excavation system is a cool idea, but it's half baked and requires a massive grind to be useful. At least from a visual appearance, it looks super cheap and dated. And even then, it is full of bugs.
Most importantly, performance is still TERRIBLE, especially in PVP, but PVE is not great either these days. I ran a disaster of a VMA run this morning. Had to give up because it was a slide show.
So that is why people are mad for the most part. It's nothing new. There is a great (maybe the best) game somewhere in the mess, but they keep adding to the pile of stuff that doesnt work.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on June 1, 2020 8:59PM12 -
lucky_Sage✭✭✭✭✭Most of the FPS and Ping issues for zone have been fix.
Harrowstorms are very annoying to farm for daily maybe bugged.
But the chapter is lacking of what a chapter should have feels like a dlc. Antiquities system is just grinding thing should of been base game or at least not main feature. They should of introduced A guild of skill line that added a weapon or something for combat. I don’t get why rework of vampire is counted as a chapter added when it’s base gameDC PC NA
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Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Overall, I like it. If I could have one change it'd be to have an indication on the map for the storms, kind of like how we can track dragons.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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The_Lex✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I wouldn’t have bought it except that I found the digital collector’s collection on CDKeys for $23.5 -
Knightpanther✭✭✭✭✭
✭Performance especially in Cyrodiil is still terrible, they push through new content without sorting out game breaking issues.
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Iccotak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It just seems smaller (I believe dividing up the game world to such a large degree was a mistake) and to be quite frank, rushed. The storytelling seems to have taken a step down in quality (YMMV of course).
Honestly after the whole covid crisis I would not mind if ZOS want to release the next chapter later in 2021 so then they can have a higher quality product2 -
kichwas✭✭✭✭
This thread is asking about what people don't like about it specifically.
Isn't that basically most threads... on every single game's official board...
Game boards tend to be 90% "this is the worst travesty since Machiavelli wrote the original screenplay to Revenge of the Nerds!" (side fact: that is actually true. One of my poly-sci professors made us read it too... I just skimmed it though because... yeah...).
One person posts: "I... um... kinda liked it..." and folks run out to start talking about 'rampant white knights all up in this place !!!'
I'm just kinda tired at complaint threads virtually everywhere...
And um... I kinda liked it...
Edited by kichwas on June 1, 2020 11:17PMJah bless
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