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Thank you to the those working to sort out the issues with ESO.
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The trouble is that not everyone by a long way suffers from all, or even some, of the issues that get raised in the context of the "game that doesn't work". I've been playing continuously since launch on PC EU and to a lesser degree on PC NA and I can say in total honesty that of the 10 issues listed above by @evoprimes there isn't a single one that I've experienced in any significant way. Have I had a couple of random logouts or long loading screens in 6 years? Yes, but that's it and I don't consider that to be either significant or different to any other game over the years.
As such I happily endorse the OP's thanks to the devs for sorting out the issues that have affected the Chapter launch, although apart from the first day's issues it has run fine for me apart obviously from the various downtimes.
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The problem with the fanboy tag is that it only applies to those who claim to find no fault with any aspect of a game whatsoever. I don't have any problems in large part because I neither PvP nor do Trials, nor use addons, but I don't regard the game as perfect and regularly have a moan about the rubbish trading system, for example. Both of us can only base our views on our own experiences, and mine are very largely positive while yours may be very largely negative. That doesn't make me a fanboy any more than it makes you a troll. It just makes our experiences of the game different.
@Tandor you've been here long enough and been called out often enough for being a fanboy to understand that your coming into complaint threads with your "I'm not affected" attitude is often in fact patronising and derailing.
I'm glad you're able to play the game with no issues. But please have some respect for people who do have issues, people who are locked out of content they've paid for, people who are routinely kicked out of the game or stuck in loading screens, people who are unable to use skills or follow mechanics in group content, possibly leading to the loss of hours of effort. If you need to restate that you have no issues, take care that it's not implying the issues are with other players, their computers, their connections, their add-ons, and whatever new excuse is in fashion.Edited by ZOS_Volpe on May 29, 2020 5:25PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭daemonios, i fully understand your point of view - but don't you think as well, that those working on this stuff deserve a bit of appreciation for their efforts, if they did well?- they are people too and we complain if they fail but if they do well, why not show some appreciation as well.1 -
shaielzafine✭✭✭✭✭I want to thank ZOS team for the following:
1) 5 years of CYRO lag
2) Being forced to refarm vMA and vDSA
3) Infinite loading screens
4) Random logouts
5) Various exploits
6) Adding a horse into the Crown store for 500 gems
7) Forcing players to gamble in order to get a cosmetic thing
8) Instance desyncs
9) Completely ignore the community regarding performance complains
10) Unplayable battegrounds
Thank you so much, I wish you all the best!
This is too true. We deserve the game as it was advertised when we purchased it. And a working live service for the subscription I pay for, not something that only works sometimes.
I'd love some of the promised in 2019 performance patches for issues that have persisted for years. When pvpers complained about these they were ignored, and now the same issues show in PvE. But thanks anyway, I have realized how Bethesda ZOS treats their longtime players when forced to re-farm items and when they ban players asking about the game's servers / performance / PvP on Twitch.2 -
angrydrew✭✭✭Once again people thanking eso when things are NOT fixed. you want a job they could probably use you.I am a hfc network commissioner i forget how many times so called IT peeps have not understood the capabilities of their own hardware or network as is the case .Test it before you sell it that is how software in the real world (so-to speak) works.people do not want to buy broken items .If people keep defending the cowboys that do sell this type of software then don't criticize unhappy purchasers like myself.3
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✭Yeah, it's clearly not an enviable position. It's obvious they're severely understaffed, for both doing stuff and double-checking after each other, so the company needs to invest more in these teams, because the game certainly isn't getting any smaller or less complex.“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
luv Rigurt
luv Stibbons
'ate Ayrenn
'ate Razum-dar
'ate Khamira
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✭✭✭✭✭daemonios, i fully understand your point of view - but don't you think as well, that those working on this stuff deserve a bit of appreciation for their efforts, if they did well?- they are people too and we complain if they fail but if they do well, why not show some appreciation as well.
I also understand what you're saying, but I disagree.
Firstly, complaints are very rarely about specific people. They are about the company, and the company is judged by the product. If the product is generating frustration, you can't force a frustrated player to applaud the company. It may be customary to thank someone for a service when you have *personal* interactions with them. But when was the last time you called your car or home insurer to let them know you appreciate them?
Secondly, much of the noise and negativity stem from some of the worst communication I've yet seen. They are slow to respond, when they respond at all. They allow speculation to fester instead of declaring their position. They make petty decisions that seem clearly directed at extracting just that little bit more money out of players. That is the problem with a monetization system that is in practice a bottomless well. Because there is no ceiling to what you need to pay, as there is with a sub, people resent when they feel they're being milked beyond what's reasonable.
Thirdly, I was addressing specifically the practice of weighing in on complaint threads with posts stating "but I have no issues", sometimes devolving into straw man arguments shifting the problem to the players and their systems.4 -
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The trouble is that not everyone by a long way suffers from all, or even some, of the issues that get raised in the context of the "game that doesn't work". I've been playing continuously since launch on PC EU and to a lesser degree on PC NA and I can say in total honesty that of the 10 issues listed above by @evoprimes there isn't a single one that I've experienced in any significant way. Have I had a couple of random logouts or long loading screens in 6 years? Yes, but that's it and I don't consider that to be either significant or different to any other game over the years.
As such I happily endorse the OP's thanks to the devs for sorting out the issues that have affected the Chapter launch, although apart from the first day's issues it has run fine for me apart obviously from the various downtimes.
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The problem with the fanboy tag is that it only applies to those who claim to find no fault with any aspect of a game whatsoever. I don't have any problems in large part because I neither PvP nor do Trials, nor use addons, but I don't regard the game as perfect and regularly have a moan about the rubbish trading system, for example. Both of us can only base our views on our own experiences, and mine are very largely positive while yours may be very largely negative. That doesn't make me a fanboy any more than it makes you a troll. It just makes our experiences of the game different.
@Tandor you've been here long enough and been called out often enough for being a fanboy to understand that your coming into complaint threads with your "I'm not affected" attitude is often in fact patronising and derailing.
I'm glad you're able to play the game with no issues. But please have some respect for people who do have issues, people who are locked out of content they've paid for, people who are routinely kicked out of the game or stuck in loading screens, people who are unable to use skills or follow mechanics in group content, possibly leading to the loss of hours of effort. If you need to restate that you have no issues, take care that it's not implying the issues are with other players, their computers, their connections, their add-ons, and whatever new excuse is in fashion.
Too funny. If you want to accuse me of coming into complaint threads with my "I'm not affected" attitude, do you think it might carry a bit more weight if you didn't do so in a praising thread with "some of us are affected" attitude
? I'm not the one derailing this thread 
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Deter1UK✭✭✭✭✭Foggy_Atsea wrote: »I'm old school been online so long i started when games were text based no graphics only hints like, you're in a tavern, there is a door to the south that leads outside and a door to the west that leads to the tavern cellar, do you go south or west ?.
Anyhoo thank you all again for what you do to make things happen.
Me too, Lets start a Guild for Oldies
Called MUDplayersftw
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Deter1UK✭✭✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »So when you go out to eat, do you thank the waiter/waitress for bringing you your food or filling your water glass. It is there job you know, and you are paying their salary.
Just asking.
Yes we do
It's called basic civility
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TheSeraphim✭✭✭Thank you ZOS for making sure the crown store always works, even when nothing else will.Edited by TheSeraphim on May 29, 2020 11:31AM3 -
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✭✭1) They are being paid to do this job.
2) They are doing the obvious.
3) ESO is a product you paid for.
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The trouble is that not everyone by a long way suffers from all, or even some, of the issues that get raised in the context of the "game that doesn't work". I've been playing continuously since launch on PC EU and to a lesser degree on PC NA and I can say in total honesty that of the 10 issues listed above by @evoprimes there isn't a single one that I've experienced in any significant way. Have I had a couple of random logouts or long loading screens in 6 years? Yes, but that's it and I don't consider that to be either significant or different to any other game over the years.
As such I happily endorse the OP's thanks to the devs for sorting out the issues that have affected the Chapter launch, although apart from the first day's issues it has run fine for me apart obviously from the various downtimes.
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The problem with the fanboy tag is that it only applies to those who claim to find no fault with any aspect of a game whatsoever. I don't have any problems in large part because I neither PvP nor do Trials, nor use addons, but I don't regard the game as perfect and regularly have a moan about the rubbish trading system, for example. Both of us can only base our views on our own experiences, and mine are very largely positive while yours may be very largely negative. That doesn't make me a fanboy any more than it makes you a troll. It just makes our experiences of the game different.
@Tandor you've been here long enough and been called out often enough for being a fanboy to understand that your coming into complaint threads with your "I'm not affected" attitude is often in fact patronising and derailing.
I'm glad you're able to play the game with no issues. But please have some respect for people who do have issues, people who are locked out of content they've paid for, people who are routinely kicked out of the game or stuck in loading screens, people who are unable to use skills or follow mechanics in group content, possibly leading to the loss of hours of effort. If you need to restate that you have no issues, take care that it's not implying the issues are with other players, their computers, their connections, their add-ons, and whatever new excuse is in fashion.
Too funny. If you want to accuse me of coming into complaint threads with my "I'm not affected" attitude, do you think it might carry a bit more weight if you didn't do so in a praising thread with "some of us are affected" attitude ? I'm not the one derailing this thread !
So you don't find it a provocation, precisely at a time when we've had maintenance 4 days in a row and performance is still awful in the new zones and group content, to come and sing the devs' praise? But I do see your point. I will try to refrain from raining down on other people's parade. I trust you will do the same.Edited by ZOS_Volpe on May 29, 2020 5:27PM0 -
TwiceBornStar✭✭✭✭The next time my video game goes out or I drive my video game I will keep that in mind.
How exactly does this relate to anything I've just said?I played plenty of Bethesda games and bugs generally come with the whole open world RPG territory. MMOs have lag.
Experiencing a constant 299 - 999+ latency would make any MMO rather unplayable, wouldn't it? So is that a good or a bad thing, Hal? Should I keep quiet when I can't play a game I'm paying for? Or pretend there aren't any issues when there clearly are?it was one of the first Open world games I played and will continue to play because I enjoy it.
That's great! Same here.Every now and then we get an influx of players from other MMOs and the forums blow up with negativity.
If you percieve my postings as negativity you should really read them a little bit closer. Advocating for improvement and pointing out issues and addressing bugs isn't exactly negative. It helps to pinpoint issues. So they can be addressed. And perhaps get solved. Which is good.for all the complaining and what not and people saying they don't want to play this game they sure do spend their time wisely.
As I told you a few times already; I do want to play this game, I am supportive of this game, which is exactly why I'm posting the things I'm posting.on the forums of a game they don't want to play.
If you disagree with me that's absolutely fine. However, putting words in my mouth that I've never used, have never said or have never written isn't fine at all and you'll find I'll never allow anyone to get away with that. Please quote me. Please show everyone where I have said that I don't want to play this game.
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RodneyRegis✭✭✭✭✭I want to thank ZOS team for the following:
1) 5 years of CYRO lag
2) Being forced to refarm vMA and vDSA
3) Infinite loading screens
4) Random logouts
5) Various exploits
6) Adding a horse into the Crown store for 500 gems
7) Forcing players to gamble in order to get a cosmetic thing
8) Instance desyncs
9) Completely ignore the community regarding performance complains
10) Unplayable battegrounds
Thank you so much, I wish you all the best!
Why do you bother playing then, If the game is as bad as you make out?
Because it's potentially the best game around, and we've sunk a lot of time and effort in. It's just a shame performance is regularly so poor.6 -
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The trouble is that not everyone by a long way suffers from all, or even some, of the issues that get raised in the context of the "game that doesn't work". I've been playing continuously since launch on PC EU and to a lesser degree on PC NA and I can say in total honesty that of the 10 issues listed above by @evoprimes there isn't a single one that I've experienced in any significant way. Have I had a couple of random logouts or long loading screens in 6 years? Yes, but that's it and I don't consider that to be either significant or different to any other game over the years.
As such I happily endorse the OP's thanks to the devs for sorting out the issues that have affected the Chapter launch, although apart from the first day's issues it has run fine for me apart obviously from the various downtimes.
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The problem with the fanboy tag is that it only applies to those who claim to find no fault with any aspect of a game whatsoever. I don't have any problems in large part because I neither PvP nor do Trials, nor use addons, but I don't regard the game as perfect and regularly have a moan about the rubbish trading system, for example. Both of us can only base our views on our own experiences, and mine are very largely positive while yours may be very largely negative. That doesn't make me a fanboy any more than it makes you a troll. It just makes our experiences of the game different.
@Tandor you've been here long enough and been called out often enough for being a fanboy to understand that your coming into complaint threads with your "I'm not affected" attitude is often in fact patronising and derailing.
I'm glad you're able to play the game with no issues. But please have some respect for people who do have issues, people who are locked out of content they've paid for, people who are routinely kicked out of the game or stuck in loading screens, people who are unable to use skills or follow mechanics in group content, possibly leading to the loss of hours of effort. If you need to restate that you have no issues, take care that it's not implying the issues are with other players, their computers, their connections, their add-ons, and whatever new excuse is in fashion.
Too funny. If you want to accuse me of coming into complaint threads with my "I'm not affected" attitude, do you think it might carry a bit more weight if you didn't do so in a praising thread with "some of us are affected" attitude ? I'm not the one derailing this thread !
So you don't find it a provocation, precisely at a time when we've had maintenance 4 days in a row and performance is still awful in the new zones and group content, to come and sing the devs' praise? But I do see your point. I will try to refrain from raining down on other people's parade. I trust you will do the same.
No, I don't see it as a provocation to respond to the positive topic in a positive way. If your experience is negative then you should follow your own advice and stay out of a positive topic. However, much depends in both our cases on the wording being replied to in a topic. I tend to stay out of the ones that are, for example, solely related to performance in Cyrodiil as I don't go there, but I do feel entitled to contribute to a topic where someone is complaining that the entire game is literally unplayable when clearly it is not and some balance is called for.Edited by ZOS_Volpe on May 29, 2020 5:26PM1 -
RavenLake✭✭✭A big thanks from me as well. I love ESO and will keep playing. Keep up the good work, Devs. Ignore the haters, they just blame you for their bad internet. 1
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I don't understand people who thank other people for doing right or making better what should have been right to begin with....
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✭I'm not bothered by timely maintenance to get things sorted out - i appreciate that they do it like that now and not push it to a later date.
You mean the 6 years and counting pushing things to a later date part, or did the rest of us miss something here?
Also, I don't think 4 days straight of maintenance is anything "timely".
Edited by scorpius2k1 on May 29, 2020 1:07PM🌎 PC/NA
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✭✭✭✭✭Foggy_Atsea wrote: »I'm old school been online so long i started when games were text based no graphics only hints like, you're in a tavern, there is a door to the south that leads outside and a door to the west that leads to the tavern cellar, do you go south or west ?. Yep a long time online and one thing i have learnt no matter how much things have progressed over the years is that this is the internet which is never going to be 100% reliable and neither is any game you will play. Lag is something that will always haunt us no matter how good a computer system or how good the programmers are.
Oh, wow. I used to be a dev on a multiplayer game like that. The big lag issue back then for multiplayer games was (1) typing speed, (2) how fast your modem was, and (3) how much text description the room contained.As far as Elder Scrolls goes I am thankful I don't have to hop around to level my Acrobatics skill anymore, But I still do it out of habit.
If players did not hop around like rabbits, it would not be an Elder Scrolls game.
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Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭Yes we've come a long way since the ZX Spectrum/Commodore 64.. games like 'Planet of Death', 'Espionage Island' .. and at the time much more technical adventures like the Zork games which you always envied other computers being able to play as the adventure descriptions were so much better. How far we have indeed evolved, and back then we wouldn't have dreamed that a game as detailed graphically would be on the screen(s) in front of us. Mind you back then we didn't have gigabytes, it was all kilobytes, and a game was written to fit into memory of either 16k, 48k or 64k, and often loaded from tape unless you were posh and hard a disk drive or tape drive. If you asked young people now what an azimuth alignment kit is, they wouldn't know
Now i work in IT myself and have done for many years, and one thing I always find, as an engineer you have all the solutions, but its getting them financed and put into practice that never seems to happen, so you can bet your bottom dollar that the IT guys in this equation right now are working extra hours missing 'being a dad/mum' for those extra hours, and often getting little thanks for it. We often say its a thankless task and when someone takes the time just to say THANK YOU it makes a huge difference.. makes you feel more.. valued.
So I agree, and say thank you to the people running around at the bottom of this supporting their IT ... then upwards through to the escalation team members who equally have a tough job when launching something new like this. I don't mind some days of pain, but do hope they listen to the guys at the bottom tiers for their fix ideas because they are probably RIGHT.Foggy_Atsea wrote: »I'm old school been online so long i started when games were text based no graphics only hints like, you're in a tavern, there is a door to the south that leads outside and a door to the west that leads to the tavern cellar, do you go south or west ?.
I remember playing Forbidden Forest on my Commodore 64 cassette tape player lol
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Dr_Sinister✭✭✭The ignorance is astounding with all the whining going on.
1) There's pandemic going on
2) Most if not all are working from home due to the pandemic
3) Multiple platforms to work (yes different teams)Dead is dead. Parts is parts. Dead guys is parts - RipperJack1 -
Dennizon✭✭✭Foggy_Atsea wrote: »I'm old school been online so long i started when games were text based no graphics only hints like, you're in a tavern, there is a door to the south that leads outside and a door to the west that leads to the tavern cellar, do you go south or west ?. Yep a long time online and one thing i have learnt no matter how much things have progressed over the years is that this is the internet which is never going to be 100% reliable and neither is any game you will play. Lag is something that will always haunt us no matter how good a computer system or how good the programmers are.
One of the biggest problems is trying to make a game that will work for many different computer setups from graphic cards and types of ram and processors etc used by us all. Millions of lines of code has to be fed into the system to try and make even the simplest things work as they should. So the software needed is a huge task alone and if it wasn't for those people that spent years training in programming we wouldn't be here. The same goes for all those looking after the hardware side of things.
I could go on and on about this but i'm sure most of you are not interested and bored already so i'll just say a big thank you to the Devs and everyone that is involved in ESO a huge thank you for all you do even though right now with the pandemic throwing a spanner in the works, you are still managing to work in difficult conditions. Also a huge thank you to Gina and all the Zos staff that appear on the forum helping us and keeping us updated when they can.
I'm sure a lot of people love the game and will admit they have a lot of fun playing although sometimes it can be frustrating, if it wasn't so good they wouldn't be so upset about it.
Anyhoo thank you all again for what you do to make things happen.
It is very nice to see a positive post that is measured and mature. I have experienced some lag too, but overall I feel that Greymoor is fantastic. I can see the effort that went into the zones, the quests, the music, etc. I really appreciate the hard work.
To ZOS, I know that on these boards you tend to hear from the people who act like raging 2-year olds, who cannot be productive in their feedback, and who feel that they are "entitled" to act this way due to "how long they have suffered" whatever grievance; it's pathetic and disgusting, but you cannot do anything about immature, quasi-drunk/caffeinated, ill-informed, entitled loudmouths who bite the hand that feeds their addiction. Just remember that these people are too immature to express it properly, but they actually really love the game and the more they rage, the more they show how much they love it and are simply upset they cannot have more of it in the way they want, with the consistency they want, etc. People love this game and what you continue to accomplish.
I hope you'll continue to aggressively seek innovative ways to address server performance, etc. of course, because there are serious issues there that sometimes make it nearly impossible to enjoy the content, but sometimes we should tell you the things you do a good job on, and not just harp on the negative.Edited by Dennizon on May 29, 2020 3:12PM3 -
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✭I want to thank ZOS team for the following:
1) 5 years of CYRO lag
2) Being forced to refarm vMA and vDSA
3) Infinite loading screens
4) Random logouts
5) Various exploits
6) Adding a horse into the Crown store for 500 gems
7) Forcing players to gamble in order to get a cosmetic thing
8) Instance desyncs
9) Completely ignore the community regarding performance complains
10) Unplayable battegrounds
Thank you so much, I wish you all the best!
Why do you bother playing then, If the game is as bad as you make out?
Tell me if I am right or wrong in all mentioned above. I rarely play the game and no joy comes out of it. Just frustration.
1) True
2) False. You have the exact same weapon you had last month
3) False.
4) True
5) I assume? Honestly, I am not well versed in this, so can't tell you
6) I mean, true, I suppose. Not sure how this negatively impacts your ability to play the game.
7) False. You are not forced to do anything in this game and a cosmetic is not required to do anything in this game
8) True
9) False. I believe that they are constantly looking to the community for feedback, I believe that some issues are extremely complex.
10) False.
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✭✭✭Easily_Lost wrote: »Varangian_af_Scaniae wrote: »
It's their job! They get paid good money to fix the mess they themselves created. Why should we PAYING customers be thankful for receiving half the product we are paying for? It's because of people like you that corporations can continue to screw customers over. You fanbois will defend them until the end, disgusting.Foggy_Atsea wrote: »Thank you to the those working to sort out the issues with ESO
So when you go out to eat, do you thank the waiter/waitress for bringing you your food or filling your water glass. It is there job you know, and you are paying their salary.
Just asking.
Why, yes, I DO say a sincerely meant thank you to a waiter/waitress when they bring out the food I ordered and refill my drink. Expressing gratitude for the service they are doing is not a bad thing.3 -
TheSeraphim✭✭✭Dr_Sinister wrote: »The ignorance is astounding with all the whining going on.
1) There's pandemic going on
2) Most if not all are working from home due to the pandemic
3) Multiple platforms to work (yes different teams)
Oh no the computer tech based company is forced to use home computers to work on their computer game, how ever will they manage?! I better tell indie devs it is impossible to do decent work on a home setup.3 -
Dr_Sinister✭✭✭TheSeraphim wrote: »Dr_Sinister wrote: »The ignorance is astounding with all the whining going on.
1) There's pandemic going on
2) Most if not all are working from home due to the pandemic
3) Multiple platforms to work (yes different teams)
Oh no the computer tech based company is forced to use home computers to work on their computer game, how ever will they manage?! I better tell indie devs it is impossible to do decent work on a home setup.
Ya, those indie devs making there 8 bit pixel games do amazing work. Good stuff out there.Dead is dead. Parts is parts. Dead guys is parts - RipperJack1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Elvenheart wrote: »Easily_Lost wrote: »Varangian_af_Scaniae wrote: »
It's their job! They get paid good money to fix the mess they themselves created. Why should we PAYING customers be thankful for receiving half the product we are paying for? It's because of people like you that corporations can continue to screw customers over. You fanbois will defend them until the end, disgusting.Foggy_Atsea wrote: »Thank you to the those working to sort out the issues with ESO
So when you go out to eat, do you thank the waiter/waitress for bringing you your food or filling your water glass. It is there job you know, and you are paying their salary.
Just asking.
Why, yes, I DO say a sincerely meant thank you to a waiter/waitress when they bring out the food I ordered and refill my drink. Expressing gratitude for the service they are doing is not a bad thing.
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✭✭Yeah got a bug atm thats not allowing me to bar swap or change weapons. Really not cool as can't do any dungeons, trials and pvp properly.
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