PVP Stater Armor Set

winged_tortoise · May 2020

I’ve spent the last few weeks In Cyrodiil. It’s getting a little easier, but it seems like I’m too vulnerable in my Medium Hundings/Night Mother PVE armor. Would it work to create a second, PVP set of heavy Hundings/Night Mother and mixing it with Tri-Stat and Stamina Enchants? Is there a good solution I can use to get my feet wet?

FrancisCrawford · May 2020

winged_tortoise wrote: »

I’ve spent the last few weeks In Cyrodiil. It’s getting a little easier, but it seems like I’m too vulnerable in my Medium Hundings/Night Mother PVE armor. Would it work to create a second, PVP set of heavy Hundings/Night Mother and mixing it with Tri-Stat and Stamina Enchants? Is there a good solution I can use to get my feet wet?

What are your class, weapons, main offensive skills and main defensive skills? And are you playing CP or no-CP?

idk · May 2020

Meaning no offense to you, but it sounds more like a lack of experience avoiding and mitigating damage and not the gear. I have no problem being direct with this as you are noting this is a starter set, which indicates you are relatively new to Cyrodiil.

To my point, avoiding and mitigating damage is a very active part of PvP in ESO. Actively responding to what attacks are coming your way by dodging, blocking, heals, and more are what sets experienced skilled players apart from newer players. You first have to be comfortable with playing your character, so you can spend more time watching what is happening around you.

The other option is going for a very tanky build as they require less skill to survive. Many players who cannot handle activity avoiding and mitigating damage go this route.

Edit: I suggest finding a group that runs small teams in Cyrodiil. They can help you develop and give you advice as you improve as a player.

FirmamentOfStars · May 2020

idk wrote: »

Meaning no offense to you, but it sounds more like a lack of experience avoiding and mitigating damage and not the gear. I have no problem being direct with this as you are noting this is a starter set, which indicates you are relatively new to Cyrodiil.

To my point, avoiding and mitigating damage is a very active part of PvP in ESO. Actively responding to what attacks are coming your way by dodging, blocking, heals, and more are what sets experienced skilled players apart from newer players. You first have to be comfortable with playing your character, so you can spend more time watching what is happening around you.

The other option is going for a very tanky build as they require less skill to survive. Many players who cannot handle activity avoiding and mitigating damage go this route.

Edit: I suggest finding a group that runs small teams in Cyrodiil. They can help you develop and give you advice as you improve as a player.

On the other hand a PvE build performs very poorly in PvP, since his build most likely has zero critical resistances. Naturally he feels squishy, if he he eats full critical damage bonus.

I advise additionaly to better learn the PvP mechanics to also get a separate PvP build. Depending your class and race, you will might need slightly different sets. New moon acolyte and fury are surely the go to sets at the moment and every trait on the armor should be impenetrable till greymoor.

winged_tortoise · May 2020

Thanks guys. I'm a stam DK playing no a no CP Point campaign.

FrancisCrawford:
I have been following the Altcast Legion PVP Build-- https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-dragonknight-pvp-build2/#content5 and use the following:

1. Primary Damage Front Bar: Noxious Breath
2. Primary Damage Back Bar: Dizzying Swing
3. Primary Defensive: Volatile Armor + Resolving Vigor (both on Front Bar)

When in combat I spam Volatile Armor and Resolving Vigor once every five seconds and kick out LA/ Noxious Breath every time I'm on new combatant, which, since I'm constantly moving and since the field is crowded, is fairly often. I figure this puts a Major Fracture debuff on my opponent making him more vulnerable. If I try to settle in on a combatant I'll bar swap and spam dizzying swing, which gives me my rare kills.

IDK:
No offense taken. Yes, I am very inexperienced and am sure that has a lot to it. So far I have been using "baseball strategy": Beat up on bad players (pitchers) and try to survive against good ones. If I am standing in "Red" I dodge roll out of it. I also keep on my Sword and Board (Front Bar) spamming Resolving Vigor and Volatile Armor every five seconds until I'm matched into a fight I like at which time I swap to my back bar and hit Dizzying swing a couple of times before refreshing Resolving Vigor and Volatile Armor again (Cauterize too If I remember in the heat of it).

The only way I know what abilities are used on me is to look at my death report which usually has multiple shots for 3.5K Damage and often a shot for 7-10K. I have no problem believing Damage Mitigation can help this. I can't imagine anyone can take a lot of 3K hits, especially if they all come within 2 or 3 seconds. My solution so far is to keep playing and improve my situational awareness. Despite the huge learning curve I am getting better. I just think the mostly un-enchanted Medium Armor I've gotten through Questing (largely through Cyrodiil quests) is making the learning cure steeper than it needs to be.

Regarding a PVP Guild, yes, I have been hoping to meet a good guild out on the field. I think a guild could be helpful, but ultimately believe it's up to me to become more skilled. Do you have a guild recommendation? I'm in the Daggerfall Covenant on PC NA.

Thanks guys. I appreciate the responses. I am looking forward to improving and helping add to the general skill level.

daemonor · May 2020

If you're cp 160 you should try getting bloodspawn monster set, spindleclutch is a pretty easy dungeon and the set is basically best in slot for dks in pvp, if no your priority should be to get to cp 160 asap. Even if you're playing in no cp campaigns you want that for maximum level gear. You want full impen traits and medium armor is fine, heavy armor will probably add an extra second at best before your death if you're not actively avoiding damage. Alcast's build is fine, but you have to play around the 20 sec burst window and that may be too much to keep track of if you're still inexperienced.

You could do a good mix of damage/survivability/cheap to acquire gear by going cuirass and greaves of the pariah, then 3 robust pariah jewelery with weapon damage enchants serpent mundus 20 points into health and bewitched sugar skulls food. Belt boots and gloves new moon acolyte. Now I like to play my dk with a 2h sharpened axe and venomous claw/noxious breath frontbar for some variety from every other stamina 2h build, but you could also go 2h nirnhoned maul with camo hunter/noxious breath frontbar. That would give you nice 24-25k health in no cp around 26k stamina and high resistances with decent weapon damage.

If you're on PC EU hit me up and i'll help you get the gear.

khajiitNPC · May 2020

For your level, I’d recommend ancient dragon guard, (heavy), 7th Legion, back bar sword and board blessing of the potentates. Obviously there are better set ups but I think for the inexperienced player this goes a long way. You could even go Ancient Dragon Guard and Fury.

Anyways it’ll give you some survivability and decent damage. Also Impenetrable is pretty important for PvP. You could go full impen or a mixture of impen and sturdy.

Heimpai · May 2020

I run Nord medium and the meta fury/nma/dragon guard/ clever alchemist..won't recommend a monster set until after the update..

If sustain is an issue then farm bone pirate +drink..hundings should be fine but no to night mother since noxious fills this role..could even try spriggans instead if you want

Sleep724 · May 2020

One thing to add is that you don’t need to spam volatile armor. I believe the duration is 20 seconds so there’s no reason to keep spamming it before it needs to be refreshed again. Unless you mean igneous shield which you’ll use for the major mending. But even then you won’t have the magika to spam it, just time it and use it before using vigor when under serious pressure.

erio · May 2020

winged_tortoise wrote: »

I’ve spent the last few weeks In Cyrodiil. It’s getting a little easier, but it seems like I’m too vulnerable in my Medium Hundings/Night Mother PVE armor. Would it work to create a second, PVP set of heavy Hundings/Night Mother and mixing it with Tri-Stat and Stamina Enchants? Is there a good solution I can use to get my feet wet?

no class should be running hundings and night mother

HowlKimchi · May 2020

Go Impregnable + some easy craftable set to get started (id go with shackle breaker). And stick with medium. You will not want to get used to heavy and have it be a problem when you eventually switch back to medium.

You wont be winning duels against competent people with this, but at least you'll survive long enough that you start learning how to play the class properly.

That's just my opinion

MartiniDaniels · May 2020

Try to use sword and board backbar and slot Deep Slash (aoe minor maim+snare+some aoe damage). Your tankiness against close combat opponents will skyrocket + you will learn how to block in PVP. Minor maim debuff gives you more protection then any armor set can give, and block is one of the best damage mitigation sources as well.
I personally may recommend VMA sword and board for that. Nobody uses it, but I tried, and well it felt quite OP if you can keep sitting on your opponents tail, because you restore ton of resources that way and VMA heavy attack bonus is carried over to main bar for 5 seconds.

coletas · May 2020

for playing with a beer un one hand i like pariah jewelry+2 heavy pieces+5 medium. Deep Slash as someone said, and go peaceful XD

technohic · May 2020

You followed Alcast skill bar, dud you copy his gear recommendation? He usually has a beginner setup including stat allocation.
You need impen armor trait. Even when it gets reduced next patch, still will provide the highest mitigation available in PVP.

Outside of that, I'd defer to following the information they guy you got the build of of provided.