Ability to replay story?

Menphues · May 2020

Hello all,

So I do not like the PvP side of the game or doing the same quests over and over just to get some champion levels. I am pretty much only interested in the story - PvE elemant of the game, like my wife and many other players out there, but this only gets you to about champion 400 something, which is not much at all considering the cap is a lot higher and involves grinding the same thing over and over... That is not for us at all.

So, what about the ability to play the complete story quest line's with your character... considering it is a higher level then when we first played, the enemies should be scaled so we can have a nice play through with maybe more rewards or something?

It was just a thought but unsure how to reach the devs to request something like this because I would enjoy (And I sure a lot of other people would too) another play through of the stories within the game.

Thank you!

MaleAmazon · May 2020

This is not how the game works. Even most story quest content isn´t 'solo', by which I mean actually labeled "solo" on the loading screen (like some prophet quests). I would have liked it if it was, but they haven´t done that. You will have other players there and so you can´t have separate enemies. I have personally advocated for a difficulty option that affects the player and not the monsters, but so far, no dice.

I do not see how you could not get higher CP by playing story though. You have main quest, alliance war quest, side quests, thieves´ guild, dark brotherhood, imperial city, morrowind, clockwork city, summerset, murkmire, elsweyr x 2, greymoor in a week, etc etc... you also have a bunch of dungeons which have story. Surely that can get you higher?

What you can do is create an alt, and replay the story. You get all CP from lvl 1, and once you get lvl 50 you get more CP. Now this will make the game easier, not harder, but you do get to replay the story.

Incidentally, I *think* Cadwell´s silver and gold used to be a lot harder, but that was way back in the day. Nowadays ZOS have gone for sort of 'inverted overland difficulty', making the game super easy unless you are a complete newbie.

LuxLunae · May 2020

So what you want to do is, learn how to play pvp.

I hated pvp. I stayed far away from it. Then my bro started playing and loved pvp. I tried dueling him and got wiped. I instantly quit out the game and told him to shove off.

Then some weeks later I got on an NB, and still got wiped. However, this time I didn't give up... Slowly I started to get his health down seeing what worked and what didn't work.

Then I killed him and jumped up an down on his body and tbagged him then ran off. He was pretty angry... It was at that point i realized I had what it took.

NOW WITH THAT SAID

DO NOT USE STAMINA TEMPLAR REDGUARD!!! WORSE PVP COMBINATION EVER!!!

unless you use the meta set..but then at that point you are not playing the game the way you want...

I forgot to say this, before I dueled my bro, I went into cyro 2 yrs ago and got wiped and said FORGET PVP....

When my bro bought the game the first thing he did was go to pvp. He wanted me to join him I told him it was trash... then we started dueling....

Danikat · May 2020

I find it odd that you say you don't want to repeat the same quests over and over just for CP, but that's exactly what you're proposing - repeating the same story quests you've already done with slightly different combat so you can get more CP from something you've already completed.

I'm also surprised that you've run out of new story lines and you're only CP400. Are you saying you've completed at least the main quest line to every base game map, the main quest, Craglorn, all the DLCs and chapters and you're only CP400? I would have expected it to be much higher than that.

If you haven't done all of that then that's your solution. Each alliance has a storyline which incorporates the main quests of each map in that alliance, then Craglorn and all the DLCs and chapters have their own storylines. (Some of which chain together, for example Morrowind, the Clockwork City and Summerset have an overarching story which ties them together.) You could spend a long time just doing the main quests without needing to repeat anything.

If you like story quests I think it would be worth doing at least some of the side quests too. If you take the time to read/listen to the NPCs and pay attention to the story (which it sounds like you do) they can be quite interesting, although some of the plot twists can be predictable at times. Same goes for dungeons. Most players will rush through them but since you know lots of people who like following the story it shouldn't be difficult to find 3 to do dungeons with who will actually follow the quests. Of course dungeons are repeatable, but you don't have to do that unless you want to.

xXMeowMeowXx · May 2020

Wait for new content to do. ZOS is always pushing out new content.

Brrrofski · May 2020

We'll if you're not bothered about PvP or endgame pve, gaining cp doesn't really matter.

There's plenty of stuff to do. Housing, fishing, playing the market.

Next patch you'll have a whole digging line to level which by the sounds of if, will take quite a while.

anitajoneb17_ESO · May 2020

I'm always amazed how people give unwanted advice or "answer" the question without even reading it.

OP does NOT want to PVP nor to do repeatable quests in order to reach max CP. He wants to redo proper story quests.

The answer is : create a new character and level it to 50 (that's quick). Past that point, you can redo all story quests you like with that character and the XP will stack in form of CPs which are account wide and will benefit your main character too.

fiender66 · May 2020

With my magplar I'm at CP600 and have completed main and zone quests for factions and DLCs (though not many of the optional local ones), Cadwell's silver and gold and all the public dungeons (plus some trials). OFC all dolmens.

I've yet to go through say two scores of WBs (namely, in Summerset, VVardelfell and Craglorn) the others I've done mostly solo.

I go to BG once in a while, but do not enjoy it very much, same for random dungeon/trials, that in my experience are too often just a blind hasty run of crazy killings. I've yet to find a guild that's to my full satisfaction (my fault, likely

).

Maybe I'll go after PVP some day, duelling, I mean, not Cyrodiil.

The above just to describe what I deem as a rather typical PVE player not vet experience

MartiniDaniels · May 2020

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'm always amazed how people give unwanted advice or "answer" the question without even reading it.

OP does NOT want to PVP not to do repeatable quests in order to reach max CP. He wants to redo proper story quests.

The answer is : create a new character and level it to 50 (that's quick). Past that point, you can redo all story quests you like with that character and the XP will stack in form of CPs which are account wide and will benefit your main character too.

I suggest creating 5 tank/crafter toons and start gaining ton of XP from daily randoms and money+mats+XP from crafting writs. I got to CP810 and more then enough gold and tempers in few months that way and barely doing any story quests

Wandering_Immigrant · May 2020

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

I'm always amazed how people give unwanted advice or "answer" the question without even reading it.

OP does NOT want to PVP not to do repeatable quests in order to reach max CP. He wants to redo proper story quests.

The answer is : create a new character and level it to 50 (that's quick). Past that point, you can redo all story quests you like with that character and the XP will stack in form of CPs which are account wide and will benefit your main character too.

This is good advice for OP. I never explicitly grind for exp, but I have a bunch of characters who are all constantly contributing to my account total with everything they do, so my CP is always going up with no end to it in sight.

You might even find this more enjoyable than just being able to repeat those quests on the same character, as you'll occasionally get different dialog from NPCs based on your race. So if you really enjoy the story and lore aspects of the game enough to replay all of it, you could make one of every race and see the world from all perspectives.

TheShadowScout · May 2020

Menphues wrote: »

So, what about the ability to play the complete story quest line's...

It is called "Making an Alt", stranger!

And yeah, that is how you "replay stories" in ESO - with a different character, since once you get it past 50, it will add everything into the account-wide champion system anyhow.

MaleAmazon wrote: »

Incidentally, I *think* Cadwell´s silver and gold used to be a lot harder, but that was way back in the day.

Yup, that it was.
Back in the olde days, before the dark times, before "One Tamriel"...

Of course, like many things, that change has advantages and drawbacks. All in all, you can still find a bit more difficulty if you want to in some places, so the "easy enough as to not scare off the newbies" overland difficulty isn't that much of a deal...

Everest_Lionheart · May 2020

Some of the dailies are actually fun even if they get repetitive. And during events doing the dailies is definitely worth it for the extra exp and bonus items. CP does turn into a bit of a slogfest though. So if you are trying to quest your way to 810 you likely won’t be able to do it on a single character doing quests alone. Your option is the create an new character and start over. If you are a hardcore quester that shouldn’t be that big of deal. Create a new character from a different faction and play through the story in a different order. Once you hit lv50 your CP picks back up where you left off. You may not like that grind back up to lv50 though especially when you are used to playing a really strong character, but grinding from scratch by only questing builds character. Pun intended!

barney2525 · May 2020

Another option - Create a character that does No story quests until level 50. How? Go through every zone and get as many achievements as possible. Clear the shards, clear the delves, find the books, - Do all the Pve exploring you want. Since you are not forced into the wailing prison until you Want to go, put it off.

IMHO

fiender66 · May 2020

barney2525 wrote: »

Another option - Create a character that does No story quests until level 50. How? Go through every zone and get as many achievements as possible. Clear the shards, clear the delves, find the books, - Do all the Pve exploring you want. Since you are not forced into the wailing prison until you Want to go, put it off.

IMHO

This is exactly what I've done with my mag blade (I have 6 lvl 50s, each one a different class). With other toons I've done the same, but along the path of the Psijic quest. At lvl 40 something I've found that the Alik'r dolmens and some random dungeon are of help.
I used shadow heavily with the NB, so the levelling has been slower compared to, say, the plar or the DK, but fun altogether in a different way. Now she is vampiresed, and I'm waiting for the new skill line. She is far from the DPS of a templar (in my hands, at least), but strong enough to solo most of public dungeons

Taleof2Cities · May 2020

You still earn XP and champion points (after level 50) on another character, @Menphues ... so why not do that?

Menphues wrote: »

I am pretty much only interested in the story - PvE elemant of the game, like my wife and many other players out there, but this only gets you to about champion 400 something, which is not much at all considering the cap is a lot higher and involves grinding the same thing over and over... That is not for us at all.

When any player purchases an MMO genre, they should already know going in that there is an element of grinding ... before they download and click "play".

mavfin · May 2020

Danikat wrote: »

I'm also surprised that you've run out of new story lines and you're only CP400. Are you saying you've completed at least the main quest line to every base game map, the main quest, Craglorn, all the DLCs and chapters and you're only CP400? I would have expected it to be much higher than that.
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I find that pretty odd myself. My DC character has done the 5 DC zones, finished the main story; i.e. finished coldharbour, finished the mage and fighter guild questlines, started Dark Brotherhood to the part where they start dailies, did about the same on Thieves Guild, and I'm currently working on Cadwell's Silver, about halfway through the AD zones, and oh, yes, I did Wrothgar.

So, I'm at 50/430.

I still have the rest of Cadwell's Silver, all of Cadwell's Gold, Summerset, Murkmire, Vvardenfell, both pieces of Elsweyr, and of course Greymoor left to do. I haven't even done any of the instanced dungeons, and only a few of the public dungeons.

How the OP could have 'done all the story' and ended up 50/400, I'm not sure...

EDIT: I forgot Clockwork City and Craglorn in my list, too. I have Cyrodil as well, of course, but I haven't gotten to that either.

anitajoneb17_ESO · May 2020

mavfin wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

I'm also surprised that you've run out of new story lines and you're only CP400. Are you saying you've completed at least the main quest line to every base game map, the main quest, Craglorn, all the DLCs and chapters and you're only CP400? I would have expected it to be much higher than that.
.

I find that pretty odd myself. My DC character has done the 5 DC zones, finished the main story; i.e. finished coldharbour, finished the mage and fighter guild questlines, started Dark Brotherhood to the part where they start dailies, did about the same on Thieves Guild, and I'm currently working on Cadwell's Silver, about halfway through the AD zones, and oh, yes, I did Wrothgar.

So, I'm at 50/430.

I still have the rest of Cadwell's Silver, all of Cadwell's Gold, Summerset, Murkmire, Vvardenfell, both pieces of Elsweyr, and of course Greymoor left to do. I haven't even done any of the instanced dungeons, and only a few of the public dungeons.

How the OP could have 'done all the story' and ended up 50/400, I'm not sure...

EDIT: I forgot Clockwork City and Craglorn in my list, too. I have Cyrodil as well, of course, but I haven't gotten to that either.

It's hard to compare considering all to XP boosts available in the game, in the crown store and during events.
Also, the amount of XP required for every new CP varies and has changed over time (in fact, with every increase of the max CP ceiling until it got frozen some time last year).
Also, people have different playstyles : some of us for example "clear" a delve by rushing to the skyshard and the delve boss, ignoring everything else, and others will kill everything that's in there, so the result in XP/CP will be different, although the same strictly speaking for the maps.

anitajoneb17_ESO · May 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

You still earn XP and champion points (after level 50) on another character, @Menphues ... so why not do that?

Menphues wrote: »

I am pretty much only interested in the story - PvE elemant of the game, like my wife and many other players out there, but this only gets you to about champion 400 something, which is not much at all considering the cap is a lot higher and involves grinding the same thing over and over... That is not for us at all.

When any player purchases an MMO genre, they should already know going in that there is an element of grinding ... before they download and click "play".

Well, there are people (like me) who purchased, downloaded the game and clicked "play" without hardly knowing what a computer game is, and not knowing at all what an "MMO" is - let alone the "grinding elements" in it.

Everest_Lionheart · May 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

You still earn XP and champion points (after level 50) on another character, @Menphues ... so why not do that?

Menphues wrote: »

I am pretty much only interested in the story - PvE elemant of the game, like my wife and many other players out there, but this only gets you to about champion 400 something, which is not much at all considering the cap is a lot higher and involves grinding the same thing over and over... That is not for us at all.

When any player purchases an MMO genre, they should already know going in that there is an element of grinding ... before they download and click "play".

If OP managed to grind every quest to CP400 that’s impressive in itself. That’s over 2000 quests and side quests in total. I myself do a ton of quests and side quests but now half way through Cadwell’s gold I’ve got a bit of quest fatigue. DC if very quest heavy though and it’s my last faction to play. Of course I decided to just roll a new character through more quests but hey to each their own right?