So with pelinal on a DK you want to stack as much weapon damage as possible. Infused jewelry with wep dmg, be either orc or dark elf, warrior mundus, pair it with another set that boosts weapon damage like fury or new moon.

For a non pelinal hybrid build, you want to pair two sets that benefit spells and weapons equally, such as shacklebreaker, new moon, axiom, ancient dragonguard, or my personal favorite, clever alchemist. You also need to make sure you have both major buffs, which is easier to do on a sorc,nb, or warden. Lover mundus, dark elf.

If you want to run a hybrid dk, there are some really good builds out there using pelinals, I would search in the pvp forums.

daemonor wrote: »

@Stx well dragonknight seems to be the perfect hybrid, because he has major savagery/prophecy on flames of oblivion and major brutality/sorcrery on molten armaments. After thinking some more i can't wrap my head around combining the 2 resources. If I want to use whip as my spammable and reverse slice only for executing then I need more magicka, but whip scales from spell pen and crit, do I go medium armor then with 64 points into magicka and use all triglyphs? Is it worth slotting other stamina skills like vigor and rally for more self healing? How to find the perfect balance between stam and mag. I suppose the goal of the build here would be to either add 2h execute into a magicka dragonknight or add molten whip into a stamina dragonknight.

Sorc is a nice option too, it can boost your health and magicka through pets and necropotence, allowing you to allocate more points into stam, and the passive that increases wpn and spell dmg passively is quite good.

Not to mention the possibility of using streak

People don't go for Hybrids because it's not meta. You can build better with only 1 focused resource. If you opt for mag/stam hybrids some stats will suffer. You have to sacrifice either Sustain, defense, crit, pen, regeneration or other cool stuff like proc sets or speed. Ususally you can't get "a bit of everthing", you have to cut something out of the equation.


If you go for a pelinals build you don't need any sorcery buffs. Go all for weapon dmg on DK as you can get minor brutality from mountians blessing. Pair it with 5 medium, 1 light, 1 heavy (for undaunted meddle, +6% max stats)

As Stx said, Dark Elf jumps in your face as hybrid race. Both resources, weapon dmg. Tri stat food.
If you go for a race with stam & health you can tinker a bit with food and atributes .

Mundus either lover for double pen or warrior for more weapon dmg. Don't go for the crit mundi unless you take completely different approach (mech. acuity or crit rush spam)

Start you attributes in the UESP editor with an even split and change accordingly until you reach your personal sweet spot.

Infused jewels is BiS. Tri-stat is somewhat okay too. But I miss swift. Weapon dmg glyphs.
Tri-Stat glyphs all over.

I wouldn't care too much for crits anymore. You wont get them high enough without sacrificing other stats. Also next patch people will easily reach very high crit resist. You'd better grind out that Malacath's Band then.



Sometimes I run hybrid sorcs, mostly in BG or no CP cyro just for pairing dizzy with a delayed burst skill. In this case curse. A combo other classes get without screwing up the build system. But that's another topic.

Issues I run into aren't dmg per se there. Sure, some opponents I can barely scratch but I probably wouldn't easily kill those players on a stam sorc either. In CP my damage suffers far more.
However, in no CP regen is more problematic. I usually run pelinals, shackle, dunmer. 2h main bar. I can cover regen via engine guard + vamp. But that get's nerfed or revamped soon.

As for monster or arena weapons you could go for 1 domi 1 kena, if you're about max stats. Otherwise take some nice proc set or whatever fits your needs. As mentioned earlier, go for malacath's band in the next chapter. Your crit will be bad anyway, so you can shove it completely for +25% dmg.

Just remember, you won't be mthe top dog with that build. But fun is more important anyway.


However, if you want to go with 5 light for the pen I wouldn't advise pelinal's as you don't get that sweet armor weapon boon.

Ah, and get ready for some idiots sending you whispers about your build and your intelligence. Some people take this game way to seriously.

I'm fully aware that it's gonna be lacking something, but I'm looking for some flavour in no-cp battlegrounds mostly. Does crystal frag proc from dizzy swing? I could see trying myself a stamsorc for that curse>dizzy>frag combo aswell

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

daemonor wrote: »

I'm fully aware that it's gonna be lacking something, but I'm looking for some flavour in no-cp battlegrounds mostly. Does crystal frag proc from dizzy swing? I could see trying myself a stamsorc for that curse>dizzy>frag combo aswell

Frag only procs from mag abilites. I don't know if it's still possible but in the past you could cheese hard cast frags with crit rush.

For your posted build, I'd set the bloodspawn shoulder to medium and the belt to light for more max resources.
Then I'd take NMA as always active and pelinal's only for frontbar, if you wan't to keep Potentates. Your backbar is mostly buffs now. I might be wrong but if I remember correctly your damage from dots and your hots take current bar stats for calculation. So even if you cast a mag dot backbar, swap to front your dmg will become higher. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And your weapon dmg stays high on backbar anyway thanks to now always active NMA (for turteling with vigor and potentates).

Swap out FoO for a frontbar buff like Inner Light (max mag, mag recovery).
I know it's bread and butter but if you struggle with mag then go for a stam stun like Turn Evil.
Throw out Ign Weapons. Put Embers on backbar. Rally on front (heal, minor endurance, you only need brutality on pelinals anyway).

If you're still too short on regen you could consider Meditation or Engine Guard.

You can still do that... you can even hardcast frags + shielded assault + Encase/mines (if you can afford the cost). Before stop playing I was trying a sort of witcher (or magic knight) build using pelinal's medium BUT putting al resources into magicka.

Blast had a decent synergy with crit rush and streak, but it's so slow and only used for opening the attack. Elemental weapon is nice when you can actually weave it but most of the time will be used to proc frags.

In the end I left the build for an arcane archer build (curse + armaments + LAs) which was way more reliable on laggy environments.

Hybrid nb could be cool for the new vampire skill line 🤔

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm almost scared to ask... will Pelinal's work with Thrassian Stranglers?

I can't see why it shouldn't. But with all it's drawbacks is this combo worth it? I mean your defense will be trash and most modifiers apply to weapon damage only.

E: quick checked it in UESP build editor. With 5 pel, 1 kena, 5 nma, maxed strangler, 3 infused jewels, big infused wpn dmg glyph, nirnhorned 2h frontbar, apprentice mundis, some sorc skills for extra spell damage, 5 light/ 1m/ 1h etc. you'll be sitting at around 5900 spell/ wpn dmg with major and minor sorcery active.
5400-5500 without minor sorcery.

The issue is strangler grants only spell damage + you give up a lot of defense to stack that spell damage when weapon dmg is far easier to stack without it's downsides.

@Sluggy
How do you get to 9k spell/weap dmg while doing so by stacking spell damage? Especially on a conservative build, if you can even call it conservative with Thrassian Strangler in it.
Would you mind sharing it via build editor?

And those massive heals will be gutted by 40% anyways with running Strangler.