They got ganked!

I have no time whatsoever for players that switch classes because the one they currently playing gets a nerf.

OP, so your down at the moment? see it as a challenge im a sorcerer we've been hit with the nerf bat for years, you adapt and you change but you don't let the buggers drive you down.

Find a way, its rewarding, they nerfed our shields and pets but i just went pet-less and used different skills, i learned more about my class, pets came back into style again (limited) so i tried them again etc etc.

Im not going to mention any names but there are still some talented folks out there in Cyrodiil who still know how to play a NB and can hand you your ass if your not careful.

Its all about the player, not the class.

Be Safe

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

... as soon as you enter the competitive end-game (... , above lvl 50 campaigns ...) you will all of the sudden stop seeing NBs.

That's cause they are cloaked, duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INHvd2YsOC8

Seriously, NBs abound, because Cloak still enables solo play and it's still a fun playstyle. Count the NBs in that clip. You can't measure everything by a class's duelling capabilities or their group utility. NBs do have a place in open world!

Malmai wrote: »

Thats cool until you get chained and abused till ded.

Chains are just another form of CC and give you immunity. I can count the times those are effective against me on one hand. My biggest counter tends to be a well-played streaking sorc or just detection in general, e.g. potions and Sentry set. Templars (Jabs) and Fossilize can be nasty, because you take a lot of damage before getting away, but it's not the worst.

For PvP, Stam NB is in a good place — I’ve played one since launch. You’ve got quite a bit of options when it comes to gear. 1v1 we can stand mostly on our own. 1vX sure it’s harder but still doable (you’ll only be 1vXing potatoes anyhow, don’t let anyone tell you other wise), and BG if you build for it they aren’t as useless as people think, especially if you’re using Bolstering darkness in group play. But the first thing is learning the class. Treat it with the same intimacy you might have with a hobby and it will love ya back.

Nightblades, especially magblades, are in a pretty terrible spot in PvP. Personally I think they're at the bottom, as I'd much rather have a magcro or magden next to me for utility reasons alone - although I can admit in 1v1 situations those classes suffer mightedly as well. The only other class which is as bad from a group perspective is probably stamblades, but hey, at least they can gank pretty okay.

As a magblade your burst (incap/bow) is extremely telegraphed, absurdly slow, and the easiest to dodge. I've literally feared people, and had them break free and dodge before soul harvest could even go off.

You got no burst heal, and the class heals rely on attacks landing, so stamina classes dodging mitigates a good portion of your healing.

You can actually have very good tankiness with dark cloak, but it's not immediate and takes a good amount of "wind-up" time. If someone tries to gank you, you have to find a way to cast merciless and get 5 light attacks to land, drop your shade, put up siphon, land a soul swallow, blur if you're running it, and cast dark cloak. Good luck surviving that long.

Your "pressure" is rather weak, and most stam classes (most classes in general) can outheal your burst, which makes certain classes (stamcro, stamden) almost not worth fighting.

If you want to kill someone (who's actually good) you usually have to go heavily into damage, leaving you very squish and a target for ganking. If you use a defensive set your damage suffers to where killing good tanker players is almost impossible.

Compared to every class I've played, magblade is the weakest while also being the most difficult. That's not to say you can't find success in both small-scale and group play, plenty of people have. It's difficult though. The ceiling is somewhere up in the stratosphere, and the floor is down near the earth's core. Even worse, outside of the top percentile of players who could make literally a anything work, as a magblade you'll quickly also learn that there are a number of classes that, assuming you and the other player are equally skilled, you probably just won't be able to win outside of luck, and no matter what you do you just can't change that.

It's incredibly frustrating losing to someone, not because they outplayed you, but because the deck is simply stacked against you. And yes, I know every PvPer thinks this at some point, but anyone who's played a magblade seriously will understand the difference in this case.

Now, all my kvetching out of the way, I still love my magblade to death. She's my new main, the only class I PvP on, and I have no desire to go back to anything else, frustrations as they are. But man, coming from a StamDK, and a magplar before that, and a magsorc before that, those classes were just so easy. The upside though - coming out of a 1v1 or an 1vX victorious on a magblade just feels so damn great, because you know you played your a** off and beat the odds.