Cyrodill is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE in the evening

Red99
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I cant explain why people play in cyro in the evening time..they enjoi heavy lags? It s literally unplayable
  • jadarock
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    The addiction is real
  • RecktrithiusOediphitry
    Nothing new sadly. This game will eventually die if this won't get fixed.
  • TineaCruris
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    ...and in the morning if it's Friday thru Sunday as well.

    It's amazing that performance is so correlated with population. Generally, this means the ISP isn't providing the hardware needed to function effectively when the server gets overloaded. We just aren't talking about an ISP in this case.
  • Shardaxx
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    My guild moved to Black because its a lot quieter than Grey, with usually 3 bars in Grey on all alliances and 1 in Black at peak times. The lag in Black is minimal most of the time, unfortunately it still suffers from the horrible freeze screens. I literally can't ride from one keep to the next without freezing sometimes, and have to kill the application and reload the game! That's just crazy. Add in the long load times (you can pretty much forget using a forward camp, it will be burned and you and your buddies long dead by the time you appear) and its unplayable for me at the moment.
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  • precambria
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    The only way it will EVER run correctly is on a private server imo. far far away from zenimax
  • Mettaricana
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    Not to be that player but when Tf was cyrodiil ever playable its like the only thing slightly more playable than EU servers
  • FrancisCrawford
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    It seems obvious that the main hope for drastic performance improvement is a lot more instancing. An extreme example of that would be a separate instance for every keep, that can run on separate servers when needed.

    The downside to such a plan, of course, is the awkwardness of crossing instance boundaries. So what would be acceptable forms of this awkwardness, and what would be intolerable?

    I'm not much of a PvPer, so I don't really have answers of my own.
  • Casterial
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    Not to be that player but when Tf was cyrodiil ever playable its like the only thing slightly more playable than EU servers
    Was playable up until 2016, then downhill from there. Got horrrrrrible lag 2018-19
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  • goldenarcher1
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    Shardaxx wrote: »
    My guild moved to Black because its a lot quieter than Grey, with usually 3 bars in Grey on all alliances and 1 in Black at peak times. The lag in Black is minimal most of the time, unfortunately it still suffers from the horrible freeze screens. I literally can't ride from one keep to the next without freezing sometimes, and have to kill the application and reload the game! That's just crazy. Add in the long load times (you can pretty much forget using a forward camp, it will be burned and you and your buddies long dead by the time you appear) and its unplayable for me at the moment.

    I get this in PVE as well when using rapids and then trying to dismount,just get kicked straight to desktop.

  • Cirantille
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    Oh people still play in Cyrodiil? :joy:
  • mikemacon
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    I’d disagree with you, but then I’d be wrong.

    I actually timed the input lag yesterday between hitting the button and the skill or attack going off.

    Just mounting the horse: hit the button, character gets into the “I’m mounting the horse now” pose...aaaaaaaand...four seconds. Four seconds later, horse apoears and mount completes.

    Just about that in combat too. Hit button for (say) crushing shock. Three to four seconds later, it finally fires.

    That wouldn’t be as bad as it is if the lag was evenly experienced. But it seems random, and it sure seems as if some people in the same group or fighting the same group will experience this massive input lag...and others don’t.

    I dunno, man...

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    Welcome to Eso.
  • Giljabrar
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    This games dying, and they're just trying to please the forever sub lvl 50 guys who play for 15 minutes every other month, but pay for all the DLC and have ESO+

    They're just gonna milk people while they can. Game is a joke tbh
    Edited by Giljabrar on May 9, 2020 8:04PM
  • Tandor
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    Red99 wrote: »
    I cant explain why people play in cyro in the evening time..they enjoi heavy lags? It s literally unplayable

    There can really only be one reason that people play something that is "literally unplayable", and it is that, for them, it is not "literally unplayable". They may well suffer lag or other performance issues, or they may not - everyone's experience of these things is not necessarily the same as there are so many variables in gaming - but if their enjoyment level exceeds their frustration level then they will continue playing. If something is "literally unplayable" then by definition no-one will be able to play it.
  • Chaos2088
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    Also not just cyrodiil.....
    Edited by Chaos2088 on May 9, 2020 9:01PM
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  • Kalik_Gold
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    Couldn’t sleep last night and played (had a few characters to get to tier 1). It was smooth around 3am.

    PS4/na
    Main Character:
    Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige

    PvP Pure-class:
    Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
    Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
    Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
    Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
    Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer

    PvP: Subclassed or Specialty
    Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer (Tank)
    Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer (Healer)
    Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
    Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist /Sorcerer
    Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden (Ice-Theme)

    PvE:
    Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
    Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
    Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Redguard** Dragonknight (Raid Damage) --- Name change needed

    PvE: Specialty
    Tyrus Septim an Imperial Sorcerer (Dungeon Damage)
    Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (Arenas)
    Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)

    Leveling...
    Styx of Akatosh a Goblin*** Arcanist --- Race change needed
    Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Lycan Sorcerer
    Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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    Passives of another race used:
    *Breton
    **Imperial
    ***Argonian




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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • Raevin
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Red99 wrote: »
    I cant explain why people play in cyro in the evening time..they enjoi heavy lags? It s literally unplayable

    There can really only be one reason that people play something that is "literally unplayable", and it is that, for them, it is not "literally unplayable". They may well suffer lag or other performance issues, or they may not - everyone's experience of these things is not necessarily the same as there are so many variables in gaming - but if their enjoyment level exceeds their frustration level then they will continue playing. If something is "literally unplayable" then by definition no-one will be able to play it.

    The frustration level far excedes the enjoyment level, but we like the game. Hell, we love the game and we really want to play it but we can't at least half the time`. And we come back day after day hoping it won't be as bad as yesterday. We are naive like that.


    What truly has exceeded everyone's`expectations though is ZOS's utter incompetence.
  • GlorphNoldorin
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Red99 wrote: »
    I cant explain why people play in cyro in the evening time..they enjoi heavy lags? It s literally unplayable

    There can really only be one reason that people play something that is "literally unplayable", and it is that, for them, it is not "literally unplayable". They may well suffer lag or other performance issues, or they may not - everyone's experience of these things is not necessarily the same as there are so many variables in gaming - but if their enjoyment level exceeds their frustration level then they will continue playing. If something is "literally unplayable" then by definition no-one will be able to play it.

    I went in to cyrodil pc NA Greyhost last night because DC had low pop bonus. It was the only reason. It was not playable for me. 4 toons 25k each, 35 minutes....out, I didnt even see another enemy player for the first toons 25k. The game was so bad light attacks would stick or start to fire then not fire at all. Skills would barely work the first time a key was activated, ultimates would go off with sound and animation but not fire.

    My enjoyment level in pvp is zero but transmute stones are worth some time in there.

  • xshatox
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    I actually trying to bring my friends whose WOW hardcore player but after seeing me playing they are commenting on how my FPS look like a slide show. I never get them around to try it even when ZOS give free trial.
  • Red99
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    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Couldn’t sleep last night and played (had a few characters to get to tier 1). It was smooth around 3am.

    PS4/na

    For evening time i intend the period between 7pm to 1am more or less on the pc main campaign
  • Rowjoh
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    yep. Keep wondering how and why the devs have let performance slip so badly into the unacceptable and quite frankly embarrassing state it is in today.

    The main campaign is where it's at, but can only play as intended on the Standard campaign.
  • Karivaa
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    We really had high hopes they were beginning to fix their game. Many of us have taken breaks due to the lag. I can’t switch bars or even use skills. Can’t break free, nothing. The loading screens around keeps seems to be better, but how did they manage to mess up the game even more? People have said if it isn’t fixed in the next patch, they are done forever. Zos, do you know how many serious pvp players have already quit?

    They would come back if Cyrodiil was fixed. Please don’t mess up the game anymore than it already is.
    Edited by Karivaa on May 10, 2020 2:25PM
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