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Sexist messages increase
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Isarii✭✭✭✭This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.Isarii Aloroth - PC-NA | Ebonheart Pact | Dunmer | Magicka Nightblade8 -
xXMeowMeowXx✭✭✭✭✭
✭@xXMeowMeowXx They can't really find me on other platforms, with that I was always very careful, I know that some people can connect my Forum Account to my ID, but besides that there are really no connection points.
I sadly never really got connections to all girl guilds or code words or stuff like that.
That is really good that you have it set up that way from the get go. I had to learn the hard way.0 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭You dont look attention on forums, you report via ticket... Lock this thread due to baiting and not constructive.Edited by Malmai on May 6, 2020 10:34PM5 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.
She started the trash talk. She lost the trash talk. To late to hide behind tears and say what is fair.3 -
BackStabeth✭✭✭✭✭I got some too in the past. Take a screenshot and report them, then block and never come back.
At the beginning the nickname was not visible under character name and i was stupid enough to use my real one
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Don't feel offended by small , frustrated men. They are a minority. However i feel sorry that these things still can happen.
"small, frustrated men" is a sexually charged, and sexiest remark towards men.
Men are not the only people who are sexiest and make sexiest comments.
If you are going to complain about anyone being sexiest, then accept the fact, the FACT, that it's not only men, that it's everyone who has made sexiest comments and that it's all wrong, all should be reported, not only when you think the person saying the sexiest comment is a male.
It's this, this right here I see over and over in chat. This gender specific attack. If you don't like sexiest comments, why in the world would you use a sexiest comment yourself in the very post you talk about it to attack specifically men?
You cannot complain about sexiest remarks while making them yourself.3 -
Isarii✭✭✭✭This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.
She started the trash talk. She lost the trash talk. To late to hide behind tears and say what is fair.
Maybe in the fan-fiction version of events you wrote earlier, but not according to the only person in this thread who was actually there. That you felt the need to come up with your own version of events like that is probably something that warrants some self-reflection on your part.Isarii Aloroth - PC-NA | Ebonheart Pact | Dunmer | Magicka Nightblade3 -
L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭I am not sure, why at least 2 people here seem to assume something more to a simple state of something that actually happened. It is nice if you can't believe it that speaks for the game community, but as usual there are black sheep in between, and only about them is this threat.
Sometimes it is just as easy as that, some people make dumb comments just because they can, there is no way to deny that. I just pointed out that those messages seem to increase nothing more.PC|EU4 -
Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@ZeroXFF Believe me, I can hold my own. I can run Dungeons solo (as long as I stay normal) if I want to, I don't need anyone to carry me and absolutely not because of my gender. The reason I gave no context is simple, I recall multiple instances from several days now and not just one specific event. And as mentioned earlier my ID clearly states a gender.
To get a context on the recent one (which btw is even quoted by you) I killed of a Ballgroup in 5 seconds which the alliance fought over half an hour and asked in chat, why they took so long with that, the reply was already go back to the kitchen. There is not more to it, just straight up. I haven't mentioned my gender or anything else.This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.
She started the trash talk. She lost the trash talk. To late to hide behind tears and say what is fair.
Maybe in the fan-fiction version of events you wrote earlier, but not according to the only person in this thread who was actually there. That you felt the need to come up with your own version of events like that is probably something that warrants some self-reflection on your part.
Literally her words, she started it.
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Vea✭✭✭BackStabeth wrote: »I got some too in the past. Take a screenshot and report them, then block and never come back.
At the beginning the nickname was not visible under character name and i was stupid enough to use my real one .
Don't feel offended by small , frustrated men. They are a minority. However i feel sorry that these things still can happen.
"small, frustrated men" is a sexually charged, and sexiest remark towards men.
Men are not the only people who are sexiest and make sexiest comments.
If you are going to complain about anyone being sexiest, then accept the fact, the FACT, that it's not only men, that it's everyone who has made sexiest comments and that it's all wrong, all should be reported, not only when you think the person saying the sexiest comment is a male.
It's this, this right here I see over and over in chat. This gender specific attack. If you don't like sexiest comments, why in the world would you use a sexiest comment yourself in the very post you talk about it to attack specifically men?
You cannot complain about sexiest remarks while making them yourself.
In my case they were men. Obviously women can do the same and acting like that. But in my case they actually were 2 frustrated men ( on what they clearly said). But i can change it in "people" if you feel more comfortable
Edited by Vea on May 6, 2020 10:51PM1 -
Matchimus✭✭✭✭✭I think there has been an increase in poor behaviour in line with decrease in game performance.1
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BackStabeth✭✭✭✭✭This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.
Do you express your skin color in gaming online spaces? Your religious beliefs? Your race/ethnicity? If you do not, you are not hiding these things there is just no good reason to express them in a game, none at all.
If you have to go out of your way to express your gender identity, then not expressing it is not hiding it, it's just simply not expressing it.
In this space, where we can exist without bias against any nationality, language, race, ethnicity, religion, gender, gender identity and on and on and on, why would you feel the need to identify yourself as being anything specific? Believe me, you will be far more happy not doing so because no matter what you identify about yourself, there will be people who don't like you because of it. So why? It's just not necessary.
Are you looking for a soul mate while you play ESO? A partner in life, someone to have children with or meet offline for a romantic connection? If no, then why does your gender matter at all? What possible good reason could you have for expressing your real life gender when you are playing a character in a game? Specially when you can play a different gender and even a different race.
It's so easy to avoid these issues.1 -
BackStabeth✭✭✭✭✭BackStabeth wrote: »I got some too in the past. Take a screenshot and report them, then block and never come back.
At the beginning the nickname was not visible under character name and i was stupid enough to use my real one .
Don't feel offended by small , frustrated men. They are a minority. However i feel sorry that these things still can happen.
"small, frustrated men" is a sexually charged, and sexiest remark towards men.
Men are not the only people who are sexiest and make sexiest comments.
If you are going to complain about anyone being sexiest, then accept the fact, the FACT, that it's not only men, that it's everyone who has made sexiest comments and that it's all wrong, all should be reported, not only when you think the person saying the sexiest comment is a male.
It's this, this right here I see over and over in chat. This gender specific attack. If you don't like sexiest comments, why in the world would you use a sexiest comment yourself in the very post you talk about it to attack specifically men?
You cannot complain about sexiest remarks while making them yourself.
In my case they were men. Obviously women can do the same and acting like that. But in my case they actually were 2 frustrated men ( on what they clearly said). But i can change it in "people" if you feel more comfortable
Okay, now you are just playing games. You know it's a sexiest remark, you made the sexiest remark, you can choose to either behave in an appropriate way or inappropriate way.
If I had to formulate an opinion about you just based on what you have said thus far, I would say you are trying to be clever in expressing your hatred towards men. Do you really want people to have that opinion of you?Edited by BackStabeth on May 6, 2020 10:56PM0 -
Loves_guars✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gosh really? Last time I got sexist ala kitchen dumb comment was like 6 years ago in another MMO. Didn't know it was a thing here. It sucks but always remember those sad individuals must have a terrible life lol.2 -
Khaleesi8688✭✭✭✭Just wanted to say that never in the 4 years I've been playing eso has anyone spoken to me the way that is being described here and my @ name is obviously female. Marriage proposals, inquiries into whether I RP, etc. But never anything rude or sexist. If you are having multiple instances of it..that's.....odd....from what I've seen. I don't think there's anything wrong with what Zero said either. The fact that so many people pretend girls don't do stuff to get attention and play victim is laughable. I'm a girl and I've seen girls do it. It's totally hypocritical to say men aren't allowed to question what a woman says when she wants a group to collectively demonize someone who isn't here to give their side of the story.Edited by Khaleesi8688 on May 6, 2020 10:57PM2
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✭They aren’t worth your attention try to forget them I have met plenty of good female gamers.1 -
Ilsabet✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BackStabeth wrote: »What possible good reason could you have for expressing your real life gender when you are playing a character in a game?
Sometimes people like to be referred to by the correct gendered pronouns when people are talking about them in chat.Ilsabet Menard - DC Breton Nightblade archer - Savior of Pretty Much Everything, Grand Overlord & Empress Nubcakes
My characters and their overly elaborate backstories
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Vea✭✭✭BackStabeth wrote: »BackStabeth wrote: »I got some too in the past. Take a screenshot and report them, then block and never come back.
At the beginning the nickname was not visible under character name and i was stupid enough to use my real one .
Don't feel offended by small , frustrated men. They are a minority. However i feel sorry that these things still can happen.
"small, frustrated men" is a sexually charged, and sexiest remark towards men.
Men are not the only people who are sexiest and make sexiest comments.
If you are going to complain about anyone being sexiest, then accept the fact, the FACT, that it's not only men, that it's everyone who has made sexiest comments and that it's all wrong, all should be reported, not only when you think the person saying the sexiest comment is a male.
It's this, this right here I see over and over in chat. This gender specific attack. If you don't like sexiest comments, why in the world would you use a sexiest comment yourself in the very post you talk about it to attack specifically men?
You cannot complain about sexiest remarks while making them yourself.
In my case they were men. Obviously women can do the same and acting like that. But in my case they actually were 2 frustrated men ( on what they clearly said). But i can change it in "people" if you feel more comfortable
Okay, now you are just playing games. You know it's a sexiest remark, you made the sexiest remark, you can choose to either behave in an appropriate way or inappropriate way.
If I had to formulate an opinion about you just based on what you have said thus far, I would say you are trying to be clever in expressing your hatred towards men. Do you really want people to have that opinion of you?
Hm no, i think the only problem here is that i do not speak english very well and i was speaking about my case. I changed the word cus i agree that would be causing a misleading on what i was saying . 1 -
Vea✭✭✭BackStabeth wrote: »This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.
Do you express your skin color in gaming online spaces? Your religious beliefs? Your race/ethnicity? If you do not, you are not hiding these things there is just no good reason to express them in a game, none at all.
If you have to go out of your way to express your gender identity, then not expressing it is not hiding it, it's just simply not expressing it.
In this space, where we can exist without bias against any nationality, language, race, ethnicity, religion, gender, gender identity and on and on and on, why would you feel the need to identify yourself as being anything specific? Believe me, you will be far more happy not doing so because no matter what you identify about yourself, there will be people who don't like you because of it. So why? It's just not necessary.
Are you looking for a soul mate while you play ESO? A partner in life, someone to have children with or meet offline for a romantic connection? If no, then why does your gender matter at all? What possible good reason could you have for expressing your real life gender when you are playing a character in a game? Specially when you can play a different gender and even a different race.
It's so easy to avoid these issues.
Yes but some of us just got the nickname before that was visible under character name to anyone. At the first it wasnt, i think this is happened too to the OP.Edited by Vea on May 6, 2020 11:05PM0 -
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✭✭I hadn't had sexist messages since ages, the last time was over 2 years ago, where I got randomly asked very explicit things. I blocked the guy at that time and never had issues till now.
Since a few days I get a huge increase of sexist texts and not just in whisper even in zonechats.
Just today in Cyrodiil people started to tell me to go back to the kitchen and suck their balls, after I helped them killing a ballgroup they fought over 30 minutes in 5 seconds. I really don't get why people start to be like that.
In PvE I had similar instances as well, even getting kicked out of group for being a girl, because girls can't play and such things.
This sudden rise of that kind of messages and people feels very uncomfortable.
Unless you're going around saying you're a girl IRL, how do these people know that you are a girl?
How do you know FOR A FACT that all of these players that flamed you are men?
Did you just assume all of these people's genders based on their comments? That's mighty sexist of you. This is coming from someone who has been around more women that have said [Snip] more than my guy-friends.
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[Edited for inappropriate content]Edited by ZOS_Volpe on May 6, 2020 11:29PM2 -
L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Noxavian I answered this question multiple times already. My ID states a gender or at least it would be connected to a certain gender, sure thats no clear indication, but most people will see it, and some don't. Anyway I prefer to be referred to with the correct pronoun, so in some cases I actually correct people on that.
And unlike what some of you state I actually didn't assume the gender of the people writing the messages. I clearly referred to the messages themselves as sexist, but never to the people behind it. Except in the case that is years back, where I also can't know for sure if it was a male, but there it was very likely.Edited by L_Nici on May 6, 2020 11:18PMPC|EU0 -
RogueShark✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gotta go with Zero on this, in this specific situation.
If you start the trash talking you don't really have a leg to stand on to come crying to the forums when people clap back.
Sexism is disgusting and an unfortunate occurrence, but if you're out there literally picking a fight you better have thick enough skin to handle the retorts.PC NA
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xXMeowMeowXx✭✭✭✭✭
✭BackStabeth wrote: »This thread is obviously headed for a lock, but before it happens - I'm not sure why we're allowing misogynygang the base assumption that women should hide their gender in online spaces here.
If @L_Nici said something revealing she's a woman in the chat - so? She's under no compulsion to hide who she is.
Do you express your skin color in gaming online spaces? Your religious beliefs? Your race/ethnicity? If you do not, you are not hiding these things there is just no good reason to express them in a game, none at all.
If you have to go out of your way to express your gender identity, then not expressing it is not hiding it, it's just simply not expressing it.
In this space, where we can exist without bias against any nationality, language, race, ethnicity, religion, gender, gender identity and on and on and on, why would you feel the need to identify yourself as being anything specific? Believe me, you will be far more happy not doing so because no matter what you identify about yourself, there will be people who don't like you because of it. So why? It's just not necessary.
Are you looking for a soul mate while you play ESO? A partner in life, someone to have children with or meet offline for a romantic connection? If no, then why does your gender matter at all? What possible good reason could you have for expressing your real life gender when you are playing a character in a game? Specially when you can play a different gender and even a different race.
It's so easy to avoid these issues.
Ummmm, how does that work on discord exactly when people hear you talking or in party chat??
You have to talk to coordinate with each other. Not seeing how one could hide their gender....
Sexual harassment is not trash talk but Sexual harassment
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