battle ground matches shouldnt start till all teams have a eqaul number of players.

wolfbone · May 2020

it's quite simple. battle ground matches shouldnt start till all 3 teams have 4 players each. not just 2 or one. it's far from a enjoyable experience if two teams of 4 are now ganging up on your team of two because the match making is so dam bad it's drastically unfair
zos should sort this out already instead of screwing up more things.

L_Nici · May 2020

Yeah well as that was the case, the BGs actually never started you were forced to port out and got a penalty.
If you want that again...

Universe · May 2020

Indeed.
It's like the game itself decided that the players are competent 1vX/2vX players lol

It is a challenge when it happens.
Though I given up on PVP about a month ago due to major server performance issues, so I can't confirm that it is still occurring.

Mancombe_Nosehair · May 2020

My guess is that some people's connection to the game is dropping whilst they are in the loading screen. They then get the drop out penalty, and can't return.

As the loading screen shows that each group is chosen by that point, they then can't reallocate players once they have entered.

Players can join a battleground once it has already started, as I have done so on occasion myself, so I guess that the supply of players queuing is too limited for there to be a wait until all teams are full.

Dalsinthus · May 2020

It seems like half the time I end up on a under sized team. Sometimes we win anyway but usually going 2 or 3 versus teams of 4 is an unwinnable situation.

Thevampirenight · May 2020

Given the issues with that have happened in the past its better actually for them to not return to the model of requiring each team to have a full amount of players. It use to work like this and there is a good reason why it doesn't work that way now.

Unless they can make it work without the risk of having to leave a match and get a penalty because the match won't start because certain teams don't have the required number of players causing a perm it won't start bug that forces players to leave and get penalties. There is a good reason why they changed it to work the way it does and its for that reason. So I do disagree with this and for a good reason. Anyone that remembers that problem will most likely agree with me here.

wolfbone · May 2020

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Given the issues with that have happened in the past its better actually if they don't that.
Not unless they can make it work without the risk of having to leave a match and get a penalty because the match won't start because certain teams don't have four players and it glitches out so all three teams don't have the four needed. There is a good reason why they changed it to work the way it does and its for that reason.
I'd rather not go back to that because its a very annoying bug that makes it so you to take a penalty because you have to leave and thus cannot queue for the battlegrounds again till the penalty is done.

I disagree. cyrodill is a lag fest, the only pvp form we have that isnt lagging like hell, has terrible match making that screws up almost constantly.

L_Nici · May 2020

BGs are also lagging like crazy in the evening hours. And that games never started is nothing you can disagree with, because it is a fact that it was an issue before and got fixed explicitly with the removal of the need to have full matches.

Thevampirenight · May 2020

wolfbone wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Given the issues with that have happened in the past its better actually if they don't that.
Not unless they can make it work without the risk of having to leave a match and get a penalty because the match won't start because certain teams don't have four players and it glitches out so all three teams don't have the four needed. There is a good reason why they changed it to work the way it does and its for that reason.
I'd rather not go back to that because its a very annoying bug that makes it so you to take a penalty because you have to leave and thus cannot queue for the battlegrounds again till the penalty is done.

I disagree. cyrodill is a lag fest, the only pvp form we have that isnt lagging like hell, has terrible match making that screws up almost constantly.

Well I can see it taking a lot of debuging when it comes to the match making system to make it work right.
I see at times teams where there is a full team for two sides and yet 2 players only on one of the teams. That does still happen in Battlegrounds. If they went back to the full team model right now every time that happens match wouldn't be able to start and yes its a bug with the system that causes it.

It hasn't been fixed and that is a issue that will have to be fixed in order to go back to requiring a full team for each side. Until that is fixed we are going to have to live with the way it works now.
Plus performance should be their top priority and for the most part a lot of matches will have the full on full on full team vs team vs team matches, its only at times its bugged out.
I do hope its something they can get to addressing one of these days.

Ri_Khan · May 2020

This is why I stopped messing with bg's last year. Constantly getting put on a 2 man team against two full pre-mades got old real quick.

Deathlord92 · May 2020

Agreed it is frustrating sometimes the other day I started of with 1 other guy on my team the other 2 teams was full lol I like to think it’s because zos knows how op I am 💪 😂