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Double CC is now the norm in Cyrodiil
gabriebe
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Fear has always been a touchy and borderline broken ability, but ffs what is up with the recent occurence of having to break free 2-3 times before you can move again? Been like that for a couple weeks now, and not a single word from ZOS on a fix.
Former Empresses: Saliva Bortschion (MagBlade), Janet From Finance (PvP MagSorc), Carla Swagan (Tank DK), Estelle Born (StamBlade), Enya Arsenal (MagPlar), Anita Nurse (Magplar Healer), Bearback Brigitte (Magden), Rachel Justice (MagDK), Nicole From Payroll (Stamden), Bailiff Belinda (PvE MagSorc), Féline Dion (StamDK), Septic Tank Tina (Necro Tank)
The runts: The Trolly Spirit (Tank Sorc), Floods-Your-Basement (Warden Healer) Dinah Asthma (Magcro), Total Top Tony (Stamcro)
The traitors: Janis Javelin (Stamplar, EP), Barbecue Becky (Magblade Healer, AD)
PvE: Gryphon Heart, Immortal Redeemer, Flawless Conqueror
GM: Animal Control
The runts: The Trolly Spirit (Tank Sorc), Floods-Your-Basement (Warden Healer) Dinah Asthma (Magcro), Total Top Tony (Stamcro)
The traitors: Janis Javelin (Stamplar, EP), Barbecue Becky (Magblade Healer, AD)
PvE: Gryphon Heart, Immortal Redeemer, Flawless Conqueror
GM: Animal Control
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BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭I remember when people thought getting double cced was impossible years ago, now it’s become a normal experience.Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭BaiterOfZergs wrote: »I remember when people thought getting double cced was impossible years ago, now it’s become a normal experience.
It’s been like that for a long time. The Necro ground circles are the worst offender, with lag the second fear will sometimes go off before you can break free from the first fear.
I made a thread about it like... 6 or 7 months ago? It’s likely worse now with increased lag.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten2 -
BaiterOfZergs✭✭✭✭✭BaiterOfZergs wrote: »I remember when people thought getting double cced was impossible years ago, now it’s become a normal experience.
It’s been like that for a long time. The Necro ground circles are the worst offender, with lag the second fear will sometimes go off before you can break free from the first fear.
I made a thread about it like... 6 or 7 months ago? It’s likely worse now with increased lag.
Yeah I know but on these same forums I said you could get double cced like in 2015-2016 and people said it was impossible because of xy&z lol now everyone can see it’s not.
Zerg of House Smallscale, First of his name, wielder of Volendrung, battleground hero, Cyrodiil butcher, the swifft footed, OG of the Templars and first pvpers, defender of scrolls and baiter of zergs.0 -
juhislihis19✭✭✭✭Am I the only one who cannot break free from fears in less than 2 seconds? I mean I'm smashing the buttons to break free, nothing just happens unless that 2 seconds has gone lol.0 -
devilsTear✭✭✭Yup I got leaped back to back in a bg and I got launched in the air twice.
It's just a broken mess that will never get fixed.0 -
Steel_Heart777✭✭✭PS4 NA is completely unplayable in Cyrodiil all around, like underwater Windows 95 dial-up powerpoint slideshow unplayable, but yeah. Today during the slideshows where skills wouldn't go off after slamming the buttons 5x each, I discovered that now my character is CC breaking 4-5 times in a row, in place, taking stamina each time and never actually breaking free. So thats nice.
- PS5 NA - EP Since Launch
- CP 2400+
- 2nd Ever EP Grand Overlord PS4 NA - Spartan Ze - Stamblade AR50
- PactBerserkr - Stamden AR50
- Lord Bigdaddysmash - Stamcro AR50
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If they have a priority system for server commands break free should be at the top of the list.
Potatoes won’t like it though, a lot of people can’t kill anyone without a stun and haven’t learned to do a burst combo. It’d force people to L2P instead of spamming CC’s hoping for the game to break.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oh well um you see.... your APM (actions per minute) is way too high with all that CC breaking.
Should only be able to CC break once per 7 seconds to close the skill gap
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Q_Q✭✭✭Fear has always been a touchy and borderline broken ability, but ffs what is up with the recent occurence of having to break free 2-3 times before you can move again? Been like that for a couple weeks now, and not a single word from ZOS on a fix.
Welcome to the frustration that is eso pvp 2020.0 -
khajiitNPC✭✭✭✭✭Uh — the only people getting killed without some sort of CC is an absolute potato. While the stuns right now are absolute garbage, with having to break free upwards to 4 times, how else do you line up your burst?0
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Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭khajiitNPC wrote: »Uh — the only people getting killed without some sort of CC is an absolute potato. While the stuns right now are absolute garbage, with having to break free upwards to 4 times, how else do you line up your burst?
What are you lining up? If you have a delayed damage portion to your class’s burst then yea a stun can work well. If you’re say a NB and - you press a stun, they break free - it’s a net even and while they’re stunned they have hots ticking.
If you’re spending 1 second applying a CC and your opponent is spending 1 second removing it, unless you’re using delayed damage attack like dots or curse you aren’t coming out ahead. Especially like I said if they have hots rolling.
The only thing fear is good for on a NB is escape and trading your mag for their stam.Edited by Iskiab on April 20, 2020 11:10PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭khajiitNPC wrote: »Uh — the only people getting killed without some sort of CC is an absolute potato. While the stuns right now are absolute garbage, with having to break free upwards to 4 times, how else do you line up your burst?
Agreed.
Up until very recently I had been rolling without a proper cc on one of my chars.
All I can say is vs any even semi skilled opponent eww never again
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Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fear has always been a touchy and borderline broken ability, but ffs what is up with the recent occurence of having to break free 2-3 times before you can move again? Been like that for a couple weeks now, and not a single word from ZOS on a fix.
Welcome to the frustration that is eso pvp 2020.
I thought they're doing all sort of server improvements...? all I'm getting is 300+ ms when its crowded, compared to 130-150, and my skills take 2-5 sec to execute.
nowadays I just go to Cyro to get that tier-3, then I run around Tamriel doing achievements........August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber0 -
Davadin✭✭✭✭✭
✭khajiitNPC wrote: »Uh — the only people getting killed without some sort of CC is an absolute potato. While the stuns right now are absolute garbage, with having to break free upwards to 4 times, how else do you line up your burst?
What are you lining up? If you have a delayed damage portion to your class’s burst then yea a stun can work well. If you’re say a NB and - you press a stun, they break free - it’s a net even and while they’re stunned they have hots ticking.
If you’re spending 1 second applying a CC and your opponent is spending 1 second removing it, unless you’re using delayed damage attack like dots or curse you aren’t coming out ahead. Especially like I said if they have hots rolling.
The only thing fear is good for on a NB is escape and trading your mag for their stam.
do you play CP Cyrodiil?
even if they can get out of it, it's still a drain to their stamina, which most of the time means if either (a) if ur combo has another stun, they're screwed, or (b) they got less resource to do damage or pull funny tricks...
stun works well in most situation.
the only time it won't work well if the target JUST come out of stun and has stun immunity. then you're just wasting resource. which, arguably, to be fair, a very tricky thing to detect.August Palatine Davadin Bloodstrake - Nord Dragon Knight - PC NA - Gray Host
Greymoor 6.0.7 PvP : Medium 2H/SnB The Destroyer
Dragonhold 5.2.11 PvE : Medium DW/2H The Blood Furnace
March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭khajiitNPC wrote: »Uh — the only people getting killed without some sort of CC is an absolute potato. While the stuns right now are absolute garbage, with having to break free upwards to 4 times, how else do you line up your burst?
What are you lining up? If you have a delayed damage portion to your class’s burst then yea a stun can work well. If you’re say a NB and - you press a stun, they break free - it’s a net even and while they’re stunned they have hots ticking.
If you’re spending 1 second applying a CC and your opponent is spending 1 second removing it, unless you’re using delayed damage attack like dots or curse you aren’t coming out ahead. Especially like I said if they have hots rolling.
The only thing fear is good for on a NB is escape and trading your mag for their stam.
do you play CP Cyrodiil?
even if they can get out of it, it's still a drain to their stamina, which most of the time means if either (a) if ur combo has another stun, they're screwed, or (b) they got less resource to do damage or pull funny tricks...
stun works well in most situation.
the only time it won't work well if the target JUST come out of stun and has stun immunity. then you're just wasting resource. which, arguably, to be fair, a very tricky thing to detect.
If the game had good performance there’d be no reason to use a stun at all as a NB. You could build for 1300 stam regen as mag and be able to break free every time cc immunity was down.
I agree it’s useful now, but that’s more because the game isn’t running well. That’s ESO pvp right now, spam stuns and count on lag and poor performance helping you to win.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0