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Night Blade stealth in PVE

Wlnamp
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stealth (https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+Cloak) from a night blade in pve does not work against mobs, mobs see you in a stealth.
A typical situation - I went into the dungeon with a group, mobs overheated at me, use the stealth to throw aggro, but the mobs continue to run at me in the stealth and attack, although the distance is quite large (I use the bow)

The shots fired by mobs after I used stealth always hit and drop invisibility.
Edited by Wlnamp on April 24, 2020 4:29AM
  • Lysette
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    Wlnamp wrote: »
    stealth (https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+Cloak) from a night blade in pve does not work against mobs, mobs see you in a stealth.
    A typical situation - I went into the dungeon with a group, mobs overheated at me, use the stealth to throw aggro, but the mobs continue to run at me in the stealth and attack, although the distance is quite large (I use the bow)

    The shots fired by mobs after I used stealth always hit and drop invisibility.

    Yeah it is a pvp skill - this is as well what bothers me - that pvp and pve skills are mixed and not marked as such. The same goes for impen-trait, which is totally useless in PvE. A lot of NPCs ignore your stealth - especially those quest givers, which are made to harass you with their presence and whining - help us - regardless if you are in stealth or not.
  • Calsifer
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    How this worked in the past, sadly no longer.

    https://youtu.be/f2hizxsys40
  • BlueRaven
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    Is this a change on the pts? Or are you talking about the live server?
  • Major_Lag
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    Wlnamp wrote: »
    stealth (https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+Cloak) from a night blade in pve does not work against mobs, mobs see you in a stealth.
    A typical situation - I went into the dungeon with a group, mobs overheated at me, use the stealth to throw aggro, but the mobs continue to run at me in the stealth and attack, although the distance is quite large (I use the bow)

    The shots fired by mobs after I used stealth always hit and drop invisibility.
    Most (if not all) dungeon mobs have an infinite leashing radius, meaning they will always pursue you to the death (either your or their) regardless of how far you run.

    From my limited testing, it seems that using NB cloak on NPCs has the effect of reducing their effective leashing radius: enemies won't easily deaggro if you keep hanging around near them while being invisible.

    But infinity scaled down is still infinity, so the dungeon mob behavior makes perfect sense if you think about it that way :)
    Lysette wrote: »
    Wlnamp wrote: »
    stealth (https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Shadow+Cloak) from a night blade in pve does not work against mobs, mobs see you in a stealth.
    A typical situation - I went into the dungeon with a group, mobs overheated at me, use the stealth to throw aggro, but the mobs continue to run at me in the stealth and attack, although the distance is quite large (I use the bow)

    The shots fired by mobs after I used stealth always hit and drop invisibility.

    Yeah it is a pvp skill - this is as well what bothers me - that pvp and pve skills are mixed and not marked as such.
    In ESO there are many abilities which are effectively PvP-only - in PvE they are either completely useless at worst, and far outclassed by other alternatives at best.
    A couple examples I can think of:
    • Rune Cage (meh even in PvP after the nerfs, totally pointless in PvE),
    • Haunting Curse (PvP delayed burst ability, a rather meh DoT for PvE),
    • Defensive Rune (PvP anti-gank aid),
    • Shadowy Disguise (only useful for some PvE quest content requiring stealth, otherwise PvP only),
    • Shadow Image (PvP gap creator tool, useless in PvE),
    • etc.

    Curiously, many of the abilities in the Alliance War skill line are also BiS for PvE: Vigor, Warhorn, Barrier, Purge, Rapid Maneuver... to name a few.
  • Wlnamp
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    I think this is a bug, it is not written anywhere that NPCs should ignore this skill.
    If only I knew that there are skills with one description and different mechanics in reality, i just did not take this class for using an archer in pve.
    Disappointment, I'm going to create a dragon knight for an archer
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    Once again I see how simple and not trivial the agro system is, this is the softest thing you can say about it.
    Edited by Wlnamp on April 24, 2020 9:47PM
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