Existing vma and master no upgrade

ForzaRammer · April 2020

I don't see how this is a bad thing. Time to make vma relevant again.
I am sure 500k score is nuf to get leader board reward for warden.
Most of the weeks you get less than 30 ppl complete vma on warden.
Also dragonknight and necro vma leader board is never fill up either.

mairwen85 · April 2020

It's never not been relevant. The drops are still pretty much BiS for every build, so the current turnover of one-and-done and progressing players wont change by this choice; the already low number of people who regularly run it wont have any impact on the leader-boards or the popularity or indeed 'relevance' of it either. Even forcing people who have painstakingly cleared it without desire to return wont make it any more popular once the new perfected items have been re-farmed either. Your point is moot.

MLGProPlayer · April 2020

It's time for ZOS to make new content.

We don't pay subs and buy crown store items to keep playing the same content for 5 years.

ForzaRammer · April 2020

mairwen85 wrote: »

It's never not been relevant. The drops are still pretty much BiS for every build, so the current turnover of one-and-done and progressing players wont change by this choice; the already low number of people who regularly run it wont have any impact on the leader-boards or the popularity or indeed 'relevance' of it either. Even forcing people who have painstakingly cleared it without desire to return wont make it any more popular once the new perfected items have been re-farmed either. Your point is moot.

I must correct myself. I meant to say make vma leaderboard relevant again.

Hanokihs · April 2020

ForzaRammer wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

It's never not been relevant. The drops are still pretty much BiS for every build, so the current turnover of one-and-done and progressing players wont change by this choice; the already low number of people who regularly run it wont have any impact on the leader-boards or the popularity or indeed 'relevance' of it either. Even forcing people who have painstakingly cleared it without desire to return wont make it any more popular once the new perfected items have been re-farmed either. Your point is moot.

I must correct myself. I meant to say make vma leaderboard relevant again.

Nobody is gonna care. The only reason people are interested in the leaderboard is for a chance at their weapon in gold - and once said weapons have been refarmed, the vast majority of players quit running vMA.

Nothing will change except salt levels.

woe · April 2020

There is nothing bad about the changes. If you already have vMA weapons they will do the same exact things and not hinder you at all. If you want to minmax by the little amount that they change it will give you something extra to do but isn't mandatory. Beating in on normal for what used to be vet weapons doesn't change anything either. A [snip] is still going to be a [snip] regardless of if they have a vMA weapon

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Hanokihs · April 2020

deflorate wrote: »

There is nothing bad about the changes. If you already have vMA weapons they will do the same exact things and not hinder you at all. If you want to minmax by the little amount that they change it will give you something extra to do but isn't mandatory. Beating in on normal for what used to be vet weapons doesn't change anything either. A [snip] is still going to be a [snip] regardless of if they have a vMA weapon

[Edit for censor bypass.]

People are angry about the principle involved - no change to the content itself is being made, but players won't receive credit for having already completed the exact same content at the exact same level they'll have to grind out after the patch. Doubly annoying for vDSA players, who need to also find groups willing to regrind with them.

The change itself is good. It's the way it's being implemented that's ruffled feathers.

Septimus_Magna · April 2020

I probably wont grind vMA again for a small back bar buff that is only active for 2 seconds every 14 seconds.
For magicka DDs the grind is a lot longer and buff is probably a bit stronger because you spend more time on the back bar.

If the effect of the perfected weapons was be stronger I would run vMA again, luckily the bow is pretty easy to get.

Banana · April 2020

Been there done that. I want my upgrade