So my VMael stuff etc will just become normal mael loot ; time to quit this game ; that's enough

solasub · April 2020

Not even speaking about the ZERO performance amelioration ; or the magic trick "oh let's push Battle Spirit malus to -60%! That will favor zerging? we don't care! Anyway it's unplayable and WE DON'T CARE!!"
All my pvp group wanna stop the game
All my pve friends already stopped the game
That's enough ; really ; not only they don't fix things ; they keep break them and they just show absolutely disrespect for players who played since years.
For the very first time, after years, I won't buy the new chapter ; for the very first time, after reading the forum today, I just give up.
This joke has to end.
They still don't understand ; they still not listen ; they still don't care ; I hope we will be A LOT moving to New World or whatever ; but that's enough ; really.

Mindcr0w · April 2020

O ; k

ArchMikem · April 2020

Time for a different game for you. I'll let someone else ask for your stuff though.

justaquickword · April 2020

Bye. See you when you get back.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2020

I'd ask for your stuff but its not being upgraded

justaquickword · April 2020

You don't quit this game. This game quits you.

FR0STDEE · April 2020

But but but ......how will this game go on with out you and your three friends.....?

Sylvermynx · April 2020

Aw, c'mon folks. Don't be nasty. People are dealing with major RL situations, and then ZOS drops multiple bombs.

"Always be humble and kind..." Please.

Czekoludek · April 2020

FR0STDEE wrote: »

But but but ......how will this game go on with out you and your three friends.....?

Don't know about your contribution to the game but Sola is known on PC EU for creating quite succesfull PvE guild and leading with success AD group in Cyro. Maybe her leaving wouldn't be enough to really harm the game health but she is right about many veteran players leaving or considering leaving the game. Ppl with experience, who often contribute more to the game (from teaching new players to paying A LOT for crowns, etc) and who are definietely more valuable to the community then some no name from forum.
ZOS show us lately that they can hear the feedback so they should hear the players concern about the vma re-farm issue. Also they should finally fix their game as performance is pathetic and their fixes like "performance patch" only makes things worse.

Darkenarlol · April 2020

7 posts and still noone asked for your stuff?
ok i won't do it too to keep this new tradiotion

Onefrkncrzypope · April 2020

I got that purell, will trade for your account.....

dcam86b14_ESO · April 2020

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

I'd ask for your stuff but its not being upgraded

lmao best response

spekdah · April 2020

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

I'd ask for your stuff but its not being upgraded

ROFL

Well regarding battle spirit, its not even on PTS yet, could change. Personally I like the change, then again I find builds too survivable these days, I prefer shorter battles.

karekiz · April 2020

Someone needs to clip this post just in case.

xXMeowMeowXx · April 2020

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Aw, c'mon folks. Don't be nasty. People are dealing with major RL situations, and then ZOS drops multiple bombs.

"Always be humble and kind..." Please.

Well said @Sylvermynx

OtarTheMad · April 2020

Honestly I think the change to vMA and vDSA is fine, it's old content. If you're getting great DPS numbers already then this won't affect you that much.

Matchimus · April 2020

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Honestly I think the change to vMA and vDSA is fine, it's old content. If you're getting great DPS numbers already then this won't affect you that much.

Your honesty invalidates everyone else's feelings.

TheStarfighter · April 2020

Hey all,

I just want to say that Sola is indeed a known name in PC EU and I had the chance to have been lead by her in Cyro with AD.

I understand her frustration because during months she voiced the many problems occurring both in PvP and Pve on the forum.

So I'm Sad to read that statement and hope she will come back in the future

Juhasow · April 2020

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

Lole · April 2020

Juhasow wrote: »

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

That happens when the game took over your whole life 🙃 maybe good for thoose persons to take a break for a while and focus on what’s important

@Sola
See you soon

Nerouyn · April 2020

Juhasow wrote: »

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

That's dishonest and unfair.

In the world of pvp, every ounce of stats matters. If your opponents have even a tiny bit more than you then all other things being equal, we'd bet on the opponents winning.

Personally I don't pvp and wouldn't invest the effort. Wasn't aware of this. But on examination it doesn't look like great news and people are talking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrHFfj33o0w

The repetitive gear grind treadmill has been a staple of MMOs since their inception, though usually takes the form of increasing the level cap. Games like ESO and GW2 don't do that, but and do crap like this instead. Not outright making already farmed gear obsolete but introducing slight upgrades.

Point is - obviously this content IS NOT FUN or players would want to do it regardless of rewards. Rather than making this and other content enjoyable, ZO decided to force players back onto the gear treadmill to keep their gear maxed for PvP.

Just one in a very long line of *** moves they've made over the past couple of years which understandably is going to drive players away.

Nerouyn · April 2020

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Aw, c'mon folks. Don't be nasty. People are dealing with major RL situations, and then ZOS drops multiple bombs.

"Always be humble and kind..." Please.

Always classy.

MLGProPlayer · April 2020

Nerouyn wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

That's dishonest and unfair.

In the world of pvp, every ounce of stats matters. If your opponents have even a tiny bit more than you then all other things being equal, we'd bet on the opponents winning.

Personally I don't pvp and wouldn't invest the effort. Wasn't aware of this. But on examination it doesn't look like great news and people are talking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrHFfj33o0w

The repetitive gear grind treadmill has been a staple of MMOs since their inception, though usually takes the form of increasing the level cap. Games like ESO and GW2 don't do that, but and do crap like this instead. Not outright making already farmed gear obsolete but introducing slight upgrades.

Point is - obviously this content IS NOT FUN or players would want to do it regardless of rewards. Rather than making this and other content enjoyable, ZO decided to force players back onto the gear treadmill to keep their gear maxed for PvP.

Just one in a very long line of *** moves they've made over the past couple of years which understandably is going to drive players away.

WoW will increase the level cap with a new expansion. You grind your new gear in the new content. They don't make you go back to content released 5 years ago.

Nerouyn · April 2020

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

WoW will increase the level cap with a new expansion. You grind your new gear in the new content. They don't make you go back to content released 5 years ago.

That is a fair distinction. But they're still not totally different and yours isn't the whole story.

ESO has released multiple expansions without increasing the level cap. I don't pvp or worry about that level of optimization. I've largely been wearing the same gear ever since I hit CP 160 and I effortlessly steamroll over everything including the "group" events in public dungeons.

I've not really played WOW since Burning Crusades, but I assume it's still the case that every expansion increases the level cap and restarts the max level gear grind for everyone. The lowest level gear in the new expansion is typically better than at least the lowest of the max level gear from the previous expansion.

And while you've taken issue that with single comparison to WOW, the clear sentiment of my post was in support of the OP and others not happy about this change.

Neoealth · April 2020

This is news to me. Not really been keeping on top of the latest news. Have to say it kind of sucks, I don't partically enjoy maelstrom arena and damn it my staff was well earned, probably my hardest earned item I own in the game. Now it's going to become loot trash and I'm going to have to run content again which is frankly boring just to have the shiney staff again?

Well I won't be rushing back there.

Malmai · April 2020

Juhasow wrote: »

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

Bcs they took it out and now they will bring it back and mask it... You dont take a candy from a kid lick it and give it back?

Vaoh · April 2020

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

I'd ask for your stuff but its not being upgraded

Most clever “may I have your stuff” post 2020

MartiniDaniels · April 2020

I think ZOS should increase VMA and VDSA difficulty to VBRP level to compensate

Matchimus · April 2020

Juhasow wrote: »

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

Dmg isnt the issue. Team players strive to do the best they can for their party.

Actually dmg is an issue. If I took your attitude to every piece of equipment then the sum effect would be significant.

Cadbury · April 2020

Yeah, I think I'll just take the L and be happy I was able to get the weapons I wanted (maelstrom inferno, master 2h and bow).

NocturnalSonata · April 2020

Juhasow wrote: »

Seriously people will leave because of additional 129 wep/spell dmg or something like that on back bar ? OK...

While it may not be the greatest news to refarm vMA weapons get real about that "leaving the game because of 0,1% DPS difference" meme.

It has nothing to do with the spec of the gear that has everyone griping... The issue is that after grinding 50+ times to get a staff, our achievement is just invalidated.

Imagine if the title "God-slayer" was restructured to be achieved on a standard nSS run. So all that hard work people did to get God-slayer to begin with is invalidated, and they have to re-run it just to get the "real" title back... but wait... its much worse, lets hide that title behind rng while we are about it.

Seriously, people defending this move by zos boggle the mind.