Regrinding vMA/vDSA weapons - would you do it if there was some other incentive involved?
Ratzkifal
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By now the word has probably spread far and wide already. ZOS is adding perfected versions to Master and Maelstrom weapons, but existing weapons don't get upgraded and nobody is looking forward to having to regrind their vMA inferno staff or Master's Bow. Myself included.
But the question is, can this be salvaged for ZOS somehow? Would people be willing to regrind their vMA weapons, if the Orsinium event was happening for example and we'd get double the drops and possibly some other incentive like the weapon style pages that drop there during the event (except something else, since we already have those)?
Would that or something else make you want to regrind your weapons?
But the question is, can this be salvaged for ZOS somehow? Would people be willing to regrind their vMA weapons, if the Orsinium event was happening for example and we'd get double the drops and possibly some other incentive like the weapon style pages that drop there during the event (except something else, since we already have those)?
Would that or something else make you want to regrind your weapons?
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Regrinding vMA/vDSA weapons - would you do it if there was some other incentive involved? 185 votes
I would be okay with having to regrind my vMA/vDSA weapons if they added additional incentives.
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I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.
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I already don't mind having to regrind my vMA/vDSA weapons even without additional incentives involved.
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Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Not exactly additional incentives.
I would be okay-ish with re-playing vMA without the stupid randomness of the drops. Be it by choosing the reward at the end, or by introducing some form of points-buy system, or weighted rng - if I could be sure I would get the wanted weapon after a single-digit number of runs, I wouldn't mind too much.
Even though I don't like vMA. It's just not fun.6 -
Silent99✭✭I already don't mind having to regrind my vMA/vDSA weapons even without additional incentives involved.Haven't touched it in over a year, might be fun to go back for nostalgic reasons or i might just get PTSD...0
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Cloudtrader✭✭✭✭✭I've never done, or even attempted vet in the first place. I actually only did the normal for the first time during a recent festival where we got style pages from different types of bosses, and I needed to do it a few times to get the arena boss drops. I do understand how pissed off all y'all who've ground that stuff out already must be. I hope they give you guys something.1
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would be okay with having to regrind my vMA/vDSA weapons if they added additional incentives.Overall, I'm not too happy. Keeping in mind most of us farmed these places back when we weren't blessed with 100% weapon drops from vMA and transmutation. Basically it's a bit of a kick in the teeth if you ask me.
As a PvPer I'm REALLY not looking forward to farming vDSA again, but if the incentive is there, I no doubt will. It'll have to be a pretty big incentive, though.Edited by Alucardo on April 18, 2020 4:37PM2 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not exactly additional incentives.
I would be okay-ish with re-playing vMA without the stupid randomness of the drops. Be it by choosing the reward at the end, or by introducing some form of points-buy system, or weighted rng - if I could be sure I would get the wanted weapon after a single-digit number of runs, I wouldn't mind too much.
Even though I don't like vMA. It's just not fun.
I'd count that as an additional incentive for the sake of the poll, because in that scenario we still get something to make the grind less awful and give us a reason to do it again.
(If we can get a guaranteed/weighted-RNG destro or even guaranteed inferno staff, the people that gave up after only getting a lightning staff might do it again too, so it's an incentive in my book.)This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I won't do it all over again. My weapons are fine as they are. Since virtually all of them are back bar weapons, the extra stats won't make much difference anyway.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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Rezdayn✭✭✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.If Zenimax implement this change it proves they are 100% unable to understand/respect its players.8
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✭✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I think we should stop giving them means to screw us over more than they already are.1 -
Ardan147✭✭✭✭Well as RNJesus so far has decided to give me a giant middle finger as far as getting a Maelstrom inferno staff, means I'll just wait until the new update is out before trying again.This creature called a songbird. What a devious creation! This winged nuisance erodes sanity with its incessant chirping. What a brilliant form of torture!0
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krachall✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.This will be the final straw that ends my subscription if it goes live as discussed so far.
The game has decayed to catering to the dress-up, playing-house crowd and nerfing the endgame PVE/PVP crowd.
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Shantu✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I've run vMA at least a hundred times to get all the weapons I need (and mostly junk I don't need). I hate that place. ZOS and their screw you attitude can keep their perfected weapons.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is an added incentive already in the picture. It is a more powerful "perfected" vMA weapon.
I find it interesting that players have been clamoring for Zos to add perfect weapons for vMA and vDSA and once they announce they are adding them we complain about it.1 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's funny to me how they are so proud of the fact to highlight that they are giving us the "much requested" perfected weapons, but they are doing it in such a way that pretty much nobody is happy with it and it doesn't count as doing something good for the community and listening anymore. So they can't even pat themselves on the back if they just go ahead with it.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.4 -
ArzyeL✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I like doing VMA every now and then but i will not re-farm every VMA weapon.- Check my Linktree
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Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is an added incentive already in the picture. It is a more powerful "perfected" vMA weapon.
I find it interesting that players have been clamoring for Zos to add perfect weapons for vMA and vDSA and once they announce they are adding them we complain about it.
That's not an incentive at all. People didn't ask for a reason to rerun vMA and vDSA. They asked for their older weapons to be able to compete better with newer weapons that also offered raw stats in their perfected versions, because their investment was considerable. Now ZOS is giving them new weapons instead of buffing their old ones. That's why people are upset I think. ZOS simply missed the point and tried to make people rerun content by invalidating everything that they've earned before.
In a way, it's as if ZOS had raised the maximum item level again.
It's another thing that a lot of the weapons in question are used on the backbar and the raw stats are not going to be doing a whole lot. But that's not the point anyway.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.2 -
solasub✭✭✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I just wanna grind New World ; because if they do that, that is the really last bite of the bitter disgusting cake they try to make us eat since years. That's enough, really.Edited by solasub on April 18, 2020 6:51PMTick Tock Tormentor• Gryphon Heart • Immortal Redeemer • Extinguisher of Flames • Dro-m'Athra Destroyer • Shiel of the North
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✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.400+ runs to farm all my weapons and now i have to re-farm everything? Zos is crazy...PC-EU7 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't understand why they don't just call all existing vMA and vDSA weapons perfected and add the +resource buff to them.
Then add the normal as an new weapon.
They are different sets anyway, you can not mix them.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.5 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't understand why they don't just call all existing vMA and vDSA weapons perfected and add the +resource buff to them.
Then add the normal as an new weapon.
They are different sets anyway, you can not mix them.
Correct. It is definitely possible for them to do that.
Heck, they can even email perfected versions of the items we own to us to replace them if they wanted, because they have done so in the past back when they changed weapons and shields droping as pairs and they sent everyone owning a 1h weapon for a shield set a matching shield.
The only reason why they wouldn't is because they want us to do that content again. I can understand it somewhat with DSA, because you need a group for that and when nobody with experience goes in there anymore newer players don't find groups. It's a weak argument though. But there is not even that argument to be made for having to do vMA again!This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I never want to have to re-grind content I've already grinded.
Stop being lazy and give us new *** content if you want us to grind for new weapons.Edited by MLGProPlayer on April 18, 2020 9:55PM2 -
FatherDelve✭✭✭vMA i can deal with it, because its solo doable. But forceing me to look for 3 other people and doing this crap vDSA over and over and over again, each round 30-45 Minutes, and not being able to farm it "on my own", pretty sucks.
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kypranb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭There is an added incentive already in the picture. It is a more powerful "perfected" vMA weapon.
I find it interesting that players have been clamoring for Zos to add perfect weapons for vMA and vDSA and once they announce they are adding them we complain about it.
That's because there used to be Perfected Weapons, and they took them away from us. Now they are making us work for the same thing they took away from us a second time.2 -
xaraan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.No.
I will never be ok with what they are doing here, it's wrong pure and simple. It's a middle finger to those that have farmed it already.
If they want to make it something people revisit, then 1. they should put some work into it and make it not a boring and grueling experience and 2. add tokens.
If there were tokens, I wouldn't mind running it occasionally when I was bored (not b/c I need to re-earn all the stuff I earned) but I would be interested in being able to decon some of the stuff that is currently useless as we tend to save gear that might one day be useful. Well, I could decon some of that and earn and save some tokens for that possibility.
If they wanted to add some other incentive to make that even more worthwhile, then great.
But just saying "hey, we know you earned vet MA weapons, but we are making them normal MA weapons now and you can run vet MA again to re-earn them, ENJOY!" is a big screw you to me IMO
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Castian✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.vMA was a miserable experience. I did it for three weeks with two different classes. I am by no means an elite player so it was a hideous challenge that gave me headaches from the amount of focus I had to exercise to avoid death to complete levels. I don't think I would go back to vMA and I certainly wouldn't revisit vDSA that was worse because of pug-coordination.4
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dhoward5b14_ESO✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I have played a few years w/o doing Maelstrom. Three days before I heard they were doing weapon change a friend went in, so I started running too. Completed 5-6 times, got a few drops, golded a few weapons. Don't want to run it again. If they do not upgrade current weapons to perfected I will quit the game. This makes absolutely no sense. I can only imagine how it would feel it I had pent 100's of hours in vMA like some have.1
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Princess_Ciri✭✭✭✭✭If ZOS could fix the lag I wouldn't mind it.
vMA isn't challenging to clear once you've done it a few times (especially at max cp) but when you are up against the laggy instances it becomes a lot harder because the enemy attacks are de-synced from the animations. So you might see something hit you, so you block, carry on with what you were doing, then 3 seconds later the damage hits you as if you were not blocking and you die.
So yeah, if they could sort that out I would be fine. But they won't fix it, they have proved time and time again they are unable to fix the persistent lag in their game.GM and raid leader of Hot Girls Play DPS, the cutest guild EU0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.Can’t wait until we get regrind Sunspire and Cloudrest for the super perfected false god and siroria sets
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TheHsN✭✭✭✭✭
✭I would not be okay with having to regrind vMA/vDSA even if there are additional incentives. Period.I already did there 100s of time to get those items now they should not push me do those trials again. I already got so bored of them so instead of changing those weapons they can add new trials and new weapons to make me grind... But pushing me to make same trials hundreds of times means Zos does not respect their players at all. Who already has those weapons give them perfected versions and who does not give them a reason to grind those trials...Plays:
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