some self reflection is always good when considering posts about people who play better than we do

thissocalledflower
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food for thought

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Edited by thissocalledflower on April 18, 2020 3:00AM
After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.
  • WilliamESO
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    Wrong
  • Lady_Linux
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    food for thought

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    ^^^^ THIS!
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • Reverb
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    74131-John-F-Kennedy-Quote-Do-not-pray-for-easy-lives-Pray-to-be.jpg
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Runefang
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    Reverb wrote: »
    74131-John-F-Kennedy-Quote-Do-not-pray-for-easy-lives-Pray-to-be.jpg

    Sounds good. Doesn't work.
  • Lysette
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    My personal approach is - just the one giving up has finally lost. Goes will with "showing up is 50% and keeping at it the other half".
    Edited by Lysette on April 18, 2020 4:13AM
  • Everest_Lionheart
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    teamwork-share-victory-share-defeat-teamwork-36051332.png
    Edited by Everest_Lionheart on April 18, 2020 7:07AM
  • Turelus
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    food for thought

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    It's still always the healers fault though.
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
  • FierceSam
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    Interesting perspective, but I prefer

    “Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.” - Samuel Beckett

  • Wlnamp
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    there is no better idea, otherwise you have to admit that balance exists
  • robertthebard
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    food for thought

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    Interesting. I wonder, however, what happens when we apply this equally across the board?

    We didn't get this completion because that DPS sucked. So is it only blaming someone else when that person that has the perception of being the superior player is being blamed, or are you going to start posting this in threads posted by players that are claiming some kind of elite status too? If yes, Kudos. If no, "Oh, the hypocrisy".
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    Reverb wrote: »
    74131-John-F-Kennedy-Quote-Do-not-pray-for-easy-lives-Pray-to-be.jpg

    If you exchange the second "pray" for "work", this is something I can get behind.
    This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!

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  • Lady_Linux
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    Reverb wrote: »
    74131-John-F-Kennedy-Quote-Do-not-pray-for-easy-lives-Pray-to-be.jpg

    If you exchange the second "pray" for "work", this is something I can get behind.

    i for one do not beleive in salvation by works but by faith only so the quote works for me
    I simply must protest. There are no Penguin avatars for me to use in the forums.

    BTW, I use arch too
  • CassandraGemini
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    Lady_Linux wrote: »
    Reverb wrote: »
    74131-John-F-Kennedy-Quote-Do-not-pray-for-easy-lives-Pray-to-be.jpg

    If you exchange the second "pray" for "work", this is something I can get behind.

    i for one do not beleive in salvation by works but by faith only so the quote works for me

    Which is okay totally okay, if that works for you. I don't, so it doesn't work for me, which is okay, too. To each their own. :)
    This poor little Bosmer stealth passive had passionate friends and a big loving family!

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    Reverb wrote: »
    74131-John-F-Kennedy-Quote-Do-not-pray-for-easy-lives-Pray-to-be.jpg

    If you exchange the second "pray" for "work", this is something I can get behind.

    I agree. Interpret and apply the quote a “don’t wish for things to be easier, work to be better and overcome challenges”.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • Ascarl
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    What is "better"?
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    Turelus wrote: »
    food for thought

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    It's still always the healers fault though.

    I agree! My healer's most important function is to happily accept blame when anyone dies. ;)
    PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo
  • SeaGtGruff
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    Self reflection is an excellent practice for everyone, not just players who get upset at other players who are "better" than them.

    For instance, when I see someone post that they queued for a vet dungeon with a friend, ran ahead with their friend to skip to the end of the dungeon, realized that the other two players were still way back at the beginning of the dungeon, saw that one of those players left the group on their own, then decided to kick the other player and gloated about how it "made their day" to do so, I'm thinking:

    Okay, if you were able to kick that player then you were the group leader, in which case it was your responsibility to make it clear to everyone in the group at the very start that you and your friend were planning to skip ahead, not to mention the basic leadership role of looking out for everyone under you. So instead of gloating about how great you and your friend were, how lame the other two players were, and how much fun you had kicking the player who hadn't quit the group in utter disgust on their own, you should asking yourself the ways in which you failed the group, and what you could have done better, so you won't similarly fail another group the next time you have the crown.
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
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