Why don't you use the Outfit System?

SeaGtGruff · April 2020

A few months back I decided to start collecting those pieces of outfits you find in various containers, mainly because I'd just gotten ESO+ and suddenly had a lot of free inventory/bank space to play around with. I assembled an outfit for each of my characters-- casual street clothes for hanging out in town.

It's now my official clothing on my very first PC NA character, who isn't quite good enough to do quests and other content, so all he does is daily crafting writs. The color combination might look quirky-- green pants and lavender shirt-- but it reminds me of a purple flower I like that grows on roadsides.

My Orc Necromancer also wears casual clothes to craft in, but he looks a bit like a country boy in overalls-- except he's old, so maybe country geezer is more like it.

And my Nord Dragonknight was wearing casual clothes for a while, but then I decided to switch back to his armor-- except he had mistakenly researched his cuirass, so now he goes around with armor on except for a white shirt in place of a cuirass.

That's about as far as I'll go for now, because it doesn't cost any gold, aside from what little it costs to launder the pilfered clothing so I can stick it in the bank for my various characters to try on.

Hurbster · April 2020

I just like to vary my characters up once in a while, I got a load of motifs from the Anniversary and the gold cost is negligible.

Rye_puff · April 2020

I love the system but there’s probably a simple answer for that; people don’t care for the aesthetics and just want to play the game.

zantarizb14_ESO · April 2020

Okay, so I don't really quality to respond since my max level is like CP680, but regardless of that, I'm just horrible at choosing colors. On the very few occasions that I have used the outfit system, the result was awful and I spent way too much gold to look horrible. I realize your talking about high level players who likely have lots of gold, but for the average player the cost is high I think.

Anyway... I see plenty of really well done outfits and think it would be a great addition to the game to have player hosted outfit shops where you could go and browse dummies dressed in player coordinated outfits and pay to replicate it for yourself. On the other hand, if there wasn't enough selection, that would lead to a lot of people wearing the same outfits, which would be bad.

FrancisCrawford · April 2020

1. Even though I can afford it, I resent that it costs gold just to TRY a look beyond what you can see in the lighting and so on at the outfit station. I will only make outfits for my characters after testing them on the PTS, but that can be a hassle.

2. Outfits have to have shoulder pieces. Shoulders are in almost all cases ugly. Costumes often have that problem.

3. Outfits often have thigh or elbow pieces floating in space. Costumes often don't have that problem.

All that said, I actually do use the outfit system on a number of characters for weapons. Further, as a matter of professional honor my main crafter wears a crafted outfit look, and there's one other crafted look that I really like and currently have on a character.

Septimus_Magna · April 2020

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

2. Outfits have to have shoulder pieces. Shoulders are in almost all cases ugly. Costumes often have that problem.

The Honor Guard light shoulder piece is often hidden by the chest piece, its a pretty good option to avoid the ugly floating pauldrons. If you do the prologue quest for Greymoor you also get a neck fur that you can use instead of a shoulder piece.

RD065 · April 2020

It seems pretty cheap to do. I've done it a couple times and it didn't seem expensive at all. The costumes are earned through playing so that's free stuff. The crown store costumes are really awful, imo.

GenjiraX · April 2020

I’m aware that the outfit system exists but I’ve never had any interest in finding out how it works. I’m not sure what an outfit slot enables you to do and I’m not much interested.

Tigerseye · April 2020

Ri_Khan wrote: »

These are my reasons for using costumes instead of motif outfits...
tassets

crotch curtains

shoulders

everything that clips and floats

issues with dyeing certain pieces

tassets

scummy monetization of motifs and outfit slots

I am not a fan of whoever's designing this stuff.

Yeah.

I obviously do make outfits, from time to time, but it's a lot easier to just sling on a costume and dye it, than it is to try to find a way around all of the above.

Oh and I will see your list and raise you butt flaps and the fact that most of the armour doesn't suit/fit female chars in the way it should.

For example, when breastplates don't fit well and longer tops project out way beyond your char's hips and/or butt, because they are made to fit either at least the standard hip/butt, or maybe even the largest possible hip/butt.

Some of the costumes are also badly fitting, or badly made, as well...

Corsets that (inexplicably) make your char's waist look bigger and bare midriffs that (inexplicably) make it look smaller.

However, at least they are free to apply and dye and aren't, generally, covered in flaps and floating things.

Although, a few are.

leeux · April 2020

RD065 wrote: »

It seems pretty cheap to do. I've done it a couple times and it didn't seem expensive at all. The costumes are earned through playing so that's free stuff. The crown store costumes are really awful, imo.

In my experience they aren't cheap... baseline price for some pretty standard motifs for full outfits can reach ~16K gold with no much effort, and I've seen outrageous sums for high tier outfits, approaching ~40K gold or more.

That's not cheap if you're the sort that wan't to tweak and evolve your outfit organically... besides, I'm fairly sure that for most people building a outfit is not a set and forget thing, you have to test stuff and see it working in-game... and each time you tweak something you have to pay again.

IMO, it'd be fair to have a initial cost per-outfit slot, that could be high... and then once setup, it should be completely free to change anything in that outfit slot forever, or, alternatively, a minimum cost per change each time, no more than ~3K or so... not dependent on motifs or anything else.

r34lian · April 2020

I actully like the color of ancestors silk / rubedo and sometimes welkynar /sunspire armour looks cool enough to not go with any outfits

newtinmpls · April 2020

Danksta wrote: »

I don't use it because there is no "hide tabard" option.

None of my characters use tabards, mostly because I've not seen one I liked.