Broken!!!

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Why have we still not made any progress in 2 months!? This game is completely and utterly broken!!! Can't we just have an honest update!?

I just gave cyrodiil a go, because a few people had said it was a bit better... It's not it is as broken as ever! Maybe worse...

The "high intensity situations" is utter nonsense there were 4 people fighting 5!!! Is it so bad that we now consider this a high intensity situation!?

I love this game, I just don't understand why you haven't reverted these changes? They broke the game! whatever you did to it, it put the game into the most unplayable state it has ever been in and I have seen no honesty or clarity regarding these issues.

I am so tired of it, I just want to play this game it is excellent (when it works)but there is just no desire to fix it! I am tired of trying to be constructive.... I am tired of pressing heal 10 times and nothing happening or dodge rolling and my skills being greyed out!

I apologise to the community because I know you have had more than your fill of these threads, but I am just so annoyed that ZOS allow their product to be presented this way.

This will be closed anyway claiming there are already duplicate threads discussing it... We know it is bad publicity, but the product it's self is bad publicity. What it is doing to your loyal community is bad publicity.

Please update us. Not a passing statement... but an actual post about: what happened?, what you are trying/tryed? and whether you think you are any closer to a resolution? I appreciate we won't understand a lot of it, but it has been 2 months!

We all just want to see some sort of ownership and leadership. The responses so far are so understated, I just feel no sense of how dire these issues are.

Jaimeh · April 2020

It's not just PvP, I've seen so many bugs in PvE since the DLC was released... They've passed frustrating and have become laughable. In vMA I was fighting invisible mobs in one stage: the round started, but the arena was empty, and invisible NPCs were attacking me with invisible skills, then when I died, my death recap had blank dark boxes. Also, some archers were desynced, like the desync issues from a while back, and their cones followed me around. I lost sound a couple of times, even while doing overland content, and gotten long loading screens before sound resumed. In Sunspire, we did a whole execute phase with the dragon turned to his side, so his breath appeared to be falling on the group, but it didn't actually kill us. In BRP the bugbomb would one-shot us, even when all 4 of us were in it with healing/barrier. And throughout all the buggy instances, block still keeps dropping, skills don't fire half the time, break-free (especially after a fear) takes too long, or can even drop you from the floor en route to Narnia... The other day my character was swimming in the hills of Wrothgar

I agree that we should get an update about what's going on, this was supposed to be the year of performance improvements, after all.

WoppaBoem · April 2020

I feel the same, love this game and its so fricking sad to see this game broken and before broken was used hyperbolic now broken is an understment, earlier I roll played like second life and just walked around cyro as nothing could hit me anyways walking into zerg and siege and nothing brussed it off, this is not a combat game anymore.

Unfadingsilence · April 2020

Games been in full beta for the last 6 years honestly let's be real

thegreat_one · April 2020

They have a yearlong story to do, until that's over i wouldn't expect much

eso_lags · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

Why have we still not made any progress in 2 months!? This game is completely and utterly broken!!! Can't we just have an honest update!?

I just gave cyrodiil a go, because a few people had said it was a bit better... It's not it is as broken as ever! Maybe worse...

The "high intensity situations" is utter nonsense there were 4 people fighting 5!!! Is it so bad that we now consider this a high intensity situation!?

I love this game, I just don't understand why you haven't reverted these changes? They broke the game! whatever you did to it, it put the game into the most unplayable state it has ever been in and I have seen no honesty or clarity regarding these issues.

I am so tired of it, I just want to play this game it is excellent (when it works)but there is just no desire to fix it! I am tired of trying to be constructive.... I am tired of pressing heal 10 times and nothing happening or dodge rolling and my skills being greyed out!

I apologise to the community because I know you have had more than your fill of these threads, but I am just so annoyed that ZOS allow their product to be presented this way.

This will be closed anyway claiming there are already duplicate threads discussing it... We know it is bad publicity, but the product it's self is bad publicity. What it is doing to your loyal community is bad publicity.

Please update us. Not a passing statement... but an actual post about: what happened?, what you are trying/tryed? and whether you think you are any closer to a resolution? I appreciate we won't understand a lot of it, but it has been 2 months!

We all just want to see some sort of ownership and leadership. The responses so far are so understated, I just feel no sense of how dire these issues are.

Sorry pal, so many of us have been asking for this for years. All we want is to play the game as intended, and it seems that is too much to as zenimax. Because on xbox, as a pvp player, we have been dealing with this for years, mainly in the main campaign. But now its unplayable in any campaign, and sewers, nearly all of the time.

All I see is lost potential with this game. Its like they just want to pander to the casual majority, continue to barf out 98% casual content updates, and put everything else on the back burner. That is not healthy for the game..

I actually saw an add for the skyrim update yesterday. It made me lol because it has just a quick flash of sieging in cyrodil. Even though it was a tiny flash of pvp they still advertise it like people can actually pvp. No, you cant, not even close to as it was intended to be. Sad.

radiostar · April 2020

InaMoonlight · April 2020

Sorry, at this point, it just becomes white noise, spamming hatred, claiming they don't play and don't wanna, making sure to raise as many hackles as possible screeching like a banshee in every post - even non-griefing ones.

You have your hopes for this game? Stopped playing or paying years ago? Your sole bonding-mechanism is connecting through bashing? Yet you still do your best to trash every aspect of the game at ANY given chance? Just. Leave.

InaMoonlight · April 2020

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

InaMoonlight · April 2020

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

Mancombe_Nosehair · April 2020

Sooner or later, things are going to have to change here.

There's too much screeching and bickering. Too many egos. I ask people during the game why they don't go on the forum, and their response is along the lines of "there's too many jerks there"

This forum should be a place of gathering information, learning about stuff in the game, and having friendly fun. Not fighting with each other and throwing tantrums.

Sometimes I wonder why I come on the forum, particularly on weekends and holidays.

Things are going to have to change.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

drfirepants · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How many MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

InaMoonlight · April 2020

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

oXI_Viper_IXo · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

You sound like someone who has never stepped foot in Cyrodiil.

Mayrael · April 2020

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

You sound like someone who has never stepped foot in Cyrodiil.

This. There was another thread where player claimed that "forums users are not represantative" and the game it self is fine, it's just we who are whining. So I've made few screenshots of a chat during prime time... Yeah. The game is far from being ok.

Current state didn't killed the game just because we all are got used to low performance after all these years and TBH nobody excpetcs they will fix it, we just hope they won't broken it anymore.

Get real, if they knew how to fix it, they would done it long time ago. Now it's just adding another layer of powder to hide the uglyness. Without removing it first, it won't get clean.

Hotdog_23 · April 2020

If ZOS could figure out how to fix the problem, I could easily see it becoming the biggest or close to one of the biggest MMO’s. Sadly, I have lost all faith in that they can do it. Believe they are content where they are at (money people). I am sure those actively working on the game would like to fix it but they just can’t because of lack of resources.

relentless_turnip · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

You must be new here 😂

relentless_turnip · April 2020

Mancombe_Nosehair wrote: »

Sooner or later, things are going to have to change here.

There's too much screeching and bickering. Too many egos. I ask people during the game why they don't go on the forum, and their response is along the lines of "there's too many jerks there"

This forum should be a place of gathering information, learning about stuff in the game, and having friendly fun. Not fighting with each other and throwing tantrums.

Sometimes I wonder why I come on the forum, particularly on weekends and holidays.

Things are going to have to change.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

You clearly don't go to cyrodiil, because the zone chat, party chat etc... Are consistently talking about this. Far less politely than anyone on the forums.

D0PAMINE · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

InaMoonlight · April 2020

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing but being mostly polite, hoe' u' doin'?

oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

You sound like someone who has never stepped foot in Cyrodiil.

Oh, I have

InaMoonlight · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

You must be new here 😂

Just since the start

InaMoonlight · April 2020

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

relentless_turnip · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

InaMoonlight · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

Pst, I'm playing NA from Denmark...

relentless_turnip · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

Pst, I'm playing NA from Denmark...

Cool...

Mancombe_Nosehair · April 2020

If you really want to play PvP, based on what's been going on here, perhaps it would be better if people played a different game.

It's pretty obvious that it's never going to work well here. Zos either can't or won't fix it, screeching or no screeching.

WoppaBoem · April 2020

I find it strange the forums haven#t blown up more, the game is fricking broken. People saying otherwise or going on about toxic are strange the very least. And about not playing PVP the game is awesome when it works it really is, there is nothing like it, I am tired of shooters there boring, this is face to face combat where you have buff, heals, resources, in dept building and then doing a lot of damage. WE ARE TOXIC BECAUSE WE CARE nothing else. The moment the toxicty goes away you can be sure this game has died. Welcome it because the product at the moment is like early 2000 PVP game play. That is not oke for a game we invested a lot of time and money in.

InaMoonlight · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

I can afford to be smug, you make me feel like a better person, I realize I could be worse off - thanks!

relentless_turnip · April 2020

InaMoonlight wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

I can afford to be smug, you make me feel like a better person

being more narcissistic doesn't make you better, but I do appreciate you owning it

InaMoonlight · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

I can afford to be smug, you make me feel like a better person

being more narcissistic doesn't make you better, but I do appreciate you owning it

I have a very low selfasteem, but people like you, help

I thought I wasn't enough, then, I run into the likes of you

Thanks again

Look at yourself and your posts, you might be aaaawzum RL, but here you have only done three things. Charming!

InaMoonlight · April 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

relentless_turnip wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

There is such a thing as just asking them nicely.

No

InaMoonlight wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

drfirepants wrote: »

InaMoonlight wrote: »

I hope they take juuust long enough, to weed out the ones wanting a done product, one step in evolution sticking to it themselves. Why are yer even still here, it's been a continous *evolution* in good and bad since day 1.

Want a dead neverchanging game, you're in the wrong space...

Can't remember how it was to be a newbie, help for the sake of it, or have fun - wrong game.

This is such a lame excuse, almost as lame as all of you white knights. How MMO's are on the market? How many get updated with expansions and DLC on a regular basis and don't even have anywhere near the amount of game breaking bugs and performance issues as this game. Pretending that everything is OK will not fix the game. If the game works so great for you then fine, shut up and go play it. Don't come in here and try and silence legitimate problems with your lame excuses.

I get most my suggestions done, without brown-nosing, being abusive or entitled, but being mostly polite with a little humor, how' u' doin'?

Have you done that for the last 6 years like a lot of us here?

I have my monkey, i have my tigress mount, I have my scars. Yes, but hopefully I didn't reject the last shreds, or...vestiges of sanity like most on the forum

I was here for ALL of it

I am not getting the impression that performance is impacting you all that much.
I appreciate you have been playing for a long time, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your primary content is effected.

Generally I try to keep my feedback constructive, but as I said in my OP I am tired of it.
It is ridiculous that anyone could play in cyrodiil or participate in trials etc... and claim that this is acceptable.
I am not complaining about a bug or lag or anything that could debatabley be called a grumble. I am talking about a game that is literally unplayable. I mean you press the buttons and they do nothing, by definition it can't be played in that content.

Yes it is totally playable in overland, questing on my own, but I play an MMO to play with/against people. Again if a massive multiplayer can't be played with multiple people it is broken and unplayable.

I do not believe anyone playing endgame content could be happy at the moment and I do not believe you could be playing said content and defending it. It is very easy for me to act cool about issues that don't effect me, which I believe is exactly your mentality towards this issue.

In terms of my OP I haven't swore or said anything personal. I have voiced it as a complaint yes, but not unreasonably.
I certainly feel passionate about the issue. Asking for a broken product after 2 months of practically silence doesn't make you entitled. It certainly wouldn't in reference to any other product you had invested in.

In terms of your criteria for a desired complaint, don't you think the premise of creating criteria makes you sound a little entitled? By all means have your own standards, but it is a bit arrogant to condescend or belittle others that don't meet them.

I would certainly add being overly smug to your criteria and go away and work on that

I can afford to be smug, you make me feel like a better person

being more narcissistic doesn't make you better, but I do appreciate you owning it

Unlike you I don't love myself, I'm still working on LIKING myself, Shame you don't have the same issue...

Diffrence of us: I see my issues, and fake nothing. While some can never see they have an issue, but keep pressing them on others, never learning. Ever lovable.