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Guild Finder Functionality
EirgarthEldjarns
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I submitted feedback in game, but didn't have the space to say what I wanted... just curious how others feel.
I am an officer in a family of trade guilds (now two, was three... thus my issue). One of the guilds had to close as a trade guild, mainly because of the lack of participation and members. It was tough for the GMs to keep up all 3... so many of the members went into one of the other guilds, and some into the third... The main guild (for the purpose of this discussion) swelled to over 400 members, where the other was hovering about 300ish... Now, in a normal week, we get 15 applications, maybe a couple of more. Our dues are fair and we offer a lot, but I figured that maybe they scared some folks off or just lack of a playerbase needing another trade guild. Well what happened is all of a sudden we are getting 10+ applications a day, where our other guild (same requirements and actually had a trader in the same city), still struggled to get members... so looking at the Guild Finder (never really paid attention before), I see that the default is to put the more populated guilds first, and I can't seem to find any type of sort (other then the trader toggle)...
Now, my concerns... These are my opinions, but first, this doesn't seem fair, it makes the stronger trade guild stronger and the medium/small sized ones kinda get hosed... if there was a better/different set of sort abilities, I feel that the guild we had to close may have survived. What I have experienced, doing the old fashioned recruiting of yore, that people equate a higher trade guild population with it being a superior guild. I never found that true, but it seems to be the popular view.
I mean, why not keep 100-200 inactive accounts in the roster to pad your spot on the guild finder, and just weed them out slowly as you get more folks.
I am curious how others feel, am I wrong? (which, trust me, happens more often then not)
Eir
I am an officer in a family of trade guilds (now two, was three... thus my issue). One of the guilds had to close as a trade guild, mainly because of the lack of participation and members. It was tough for the GMs to keep up all 3... so many of the members went into one of the other guilds, and some into the third... The main guild (for the purpose of this discussion) swelled to over 400 members, where the other was hovering about 300ish... Now, in a normal week, we get 15 applications, maybe a couple of more. Our dues are fair and we offer a lot, but I figured that maybe they scared some folks off or just lack of a playerbase needing another trade guild. Well what happened is all of a sudden we are getting 10+ applications a day, where our other guild (same requirements and actually had a trader in the same city), still struggled to get members... so looking at the Guild Finder (never really paid attention before), I see that the default is to put the more populated guilds first, and I can't seem to find any type of sort (other then the trader toggle)...
Now, my concerns... These are my opinions, but first, this doesn't seem fair, it makes the stronger trade guild stronger and the medium/small sized ones kinda get hosed... if there was a better/different set of sort abilities, I feel that the guild we had to close may have survived. What I have experienced, doing the old fashioned recruiting of yore, that people equate a higher trade guild population with it being a superior guild. I never found that true, but it seems to be the popular view.
I mean, why not keep 100-200 inactive accounts in the roster to pad your spot on the guild finder, and just weed them out slowly as you get more folks.
I am curious how others feel, am I wrong? (which, trust me, happens more often then not)
Eir
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Milo✭✭✭The sort function is random, try to close it and open it up again, you will get a diffrent order.0 -
EirgarthEldjarns✭✭✭I tried multiple times, if you toggle 'has trader', it lists them by population (at least the Trade Guilds)0
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virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EirgarthEldjarns wrote: »
I mean, why not keep 100-200 inactive accounts in the roster to pad your spot on the guild finder, and just weed them out slowly as you get more folks.
I believe the guild finder only includes active accounts in its count and defines those as accounts that have logged in within the past 14 days. If I remember right, this is not something we can change as players, so having any inactive accounts is only going to clutter your roster without affecting your search ranking.0 -
EirgarthEldjarns✭✭✭I am wondering if that is true (the active accounts), one of the guilds has about 50 accounts that haven't logged in for months (legacy, officers, etc.), wishful thinking that they may come back... when I look at the guild finder, the 'active members' number is identical to the present roster, which includes those numbers...
That would be a great way to do it, just unsure if that is how it is now...
Also, I randomly toggled and opened the finder... the guild order does change a bit, but still defaults to the higher guild rosters first... so the first 5 showing, they will change each time, after about 20 tries, each of those 5 had over 480 members... (one outlier though, a guild with 300 showed up once)... not very scientific, I know, but it does show a trend.0 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I’ll have to play around with it. I thought I saw that business about 14-day activity when I first looked at it when Elsweyr released and noticed the “active members” listed differed fairly significantly from my rosters. Perhaps they changed something since then.0 -
volkeswagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭i find the guild finder doesn't show all the guilds. Please allow us to search for a particular guild and list alphabetically2