We have complained about that for years, they dont care stop wasting your time buddy 😂

They probably laughing right now watching your comment lol

I don't think ZOS are laughing, I think they genuinely don't get it. As long as players flock to the one or two campaigns on each server that are worth playing (because the others are dead) and they happily fill up those campaigns, business is good, right? How bad can it be, if the campaigns still end up being pop locked?

There is so much to learn, a newer player cannot distinguish whether they screwed up or the game engine did or whether their Internet is flaking out versus ZOS' servers. Group players, adapted to Cyrodiil, may play builds that are sturdy, that don't rely on complex rotations, that deal indiscriminate AOE damage, that perform smart healing or that are specialised towards services like Bombard spamming. They may feel the lag, but not as acutely as a small-scaler or someone, like me, who spent so much time in IC they know how the game feels when it's working properly. There is a huge social aspect to Cyrodiil. PvP guilds venture into IC, but they never stay for long. Most are committed to a Cyro campaign and they play the objectives towards a win at the end of the month. Even though they could switch towards one of the empty campaigns, there is a large amount of inertia against doing so and newer players may not see the point.

The tragedy is that this game has depth in the combat system. It rewards long term investment, but the longer you play, the more frustrated you become with it's bugs and shortcomings. Like many, I'm not even concerned with balance at this point. The elephant in the room is performance.

Radinyn wrote: »

It seems completly fine on PC EU

Please clarify:

(A) Sarcasm
(B) Genuine

Supplemental information needed:

(1) Number of characters?
(2) Total time played?
(3) Alliance rank / total time spent in Cyrodiil?
(4) You got Stormproof or Flawless Conqueror (counts towards assessment of general competence)?
(5) You play solo, small-scale or large groups?
(6) You play in pop-locked campaign(s) at prime time?
(7) You play a PvP tank, healer or DD?
(8) You play movement focused builds (NBs, medium armor), tanky ones (heavy armor) or magicka ones (light)?

Radinyn wrote: »

Well I also do, (AD - cp campaign) and it seems good to me.
I guess anecdotal evidence won't bring us anywhere lol

If you check the polls in the forum, you ll see that the majority of 70-80%+ has a problem with Cyro performance. Also there are hundreds of threads and posts that report the issue. So its 1 guy, you, vs lots of people. I guess their opinion is more valid about the current situation in Cyro.

It's not just Cyrodiil, I've had 2-3 seconds lag in PvE tonight. Crafting, dungeons, dolmens, mounting, you name it.

But no, it's more important to *** around with LA/HA than fix any of the REAL problems.

@Radinyn I was trying to be funny when I posted that questionaire. Now it leaves me scratching my head. I had this theory that squishy builds who use damage evasion for defense are most affected by lag. That you haven't tackled vMA or, perhaps more importantly, vDSA for something like a Master Bow, leaves me thinking you're perhaps less serious than I am or maybe if you don't play IC / BGs, you got accustomed to Cyro's limitations. Very strange.

I play on PC NA as well as EU. It's fine for off peak time, from Ireland. The transatlantic lag can be bursty, but it isn't nearly as consistently bad as the primetime lag, when it kicks in. My playstyles are completely unsuited to lag, but funny thing. I was inside a hostile keep during NA primetime with my level 19 geode farming nightblade that has next to no skill points. Neither the NPCs nor about 5 hostile players could kill me for about 10 minutes. I felt almost invincible while I went to town on them in a squishy light armor build outside of cloak with no shields and only Rapid Regen to heal me. I managed to almost kill one of them. Lag is the great equalizer. When none of your skills and even the NPC guards don't work properly, just spamming Swallow Soul works as good as anything. If that was transatlantic lag and not a server side issue, I should have been minced meat within seconds.

You're telling me you've never felt delays on your gap closers?

I don't have many clips up and none that illustrate lag, unfortunately. However the following - inevitably taken in IC - illustrates the playstyle I enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxsUVeGGLc

For example, when I get focused, I rely on a very active defense, such as at the 1 minute mark. This kind of gameplay goes out the window in laggy Cyrodiil. Everything is delayed and somewhat unpredictable, requiring you to dumb down your playstyle and be super conservative.

No need to argue with [snip] who say it's fine. I have yet to see video in prime time, pop locked server, where it's fine. Every streamer that PVPs I have seen with issues and leave to go play battle grounds, and even then at certain times, I see the 3 second dizzy swing wind ups and macro slicing.

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dragonesti wrote: »

It concerns me that there is so little communication from ZoS on this issue. A few members in my guild are already switching from ESO PLUS to free to play. We are also actively discussing moving to another game entirely. We play in prime time granted and maybe I'm spoiled having played EVE Online. Eve was always discussing performance & trying new things to improve it. More importantly EVE kept an open line of communication and dialog going with their player base. I am afraid that the issue is culturally based at ZoS and that they are unable due to overhead corporate constraints to apply the necessary resource to fix the issue.

I quit paying and playing and looking to move on to a new game. I didn't even want to but the silence tells me they are trying to just let this all slip away like they did years ago to where poor performance was just the norm until last year when they started their long term performance plan.

It really is concerning as I suspect they'll just push on with the chapter and more tweaks just hoping that does the trick. If not? Ih well. Still people buying pixel items and brief nostalgic expansions. They'll just push on with whatever the new norm is.

If I was someone who spent a ton of money; I think I'd be more concerned. if they tank the game; all those pixel ponys and houses are gone when it closes. Probably a good resen to blindly defend ZOS