oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
MurderMostFoul wrote: »oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
Beyond the basic Disease Damage = Stam, Magic Damage = Mag, why is this your suggestion?
Ults scale with your highest offensive stats, so unless you are running a set/have passives that strongly favor one morph over the other, the damage will be roughly the same.
oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »MurderMostFoul wrote: »oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
Beyond the basic Disease Damage = Stam, Magic Damage = Mag, why is this your suggestion?
Ults scale with your highest offensive stats, so unless you are running a set/have passives that strongly favor one morph over the other, the damage will be roughly the same.
For the stun.
MurderMostFoul wrote: »oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »MurderMostFoul wrote: »oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
Beyond the basic Disease Damage = Stam, Magic Damage = Mag, why is this your suggestion?
Ults scale with your highest offensive stats, so unless you are running a set/have passives that strongly favor one morph over the other, the damage will be roughly the same.
For the stun.
Thanks for elaborating!
ne.ga.kurai_ESO wrote: »Crit on Soul Harvest is still based on Spell Crit is it not? But damage scales off highest stat.
I've swapped back to Incap for the stun. The Defile on Soul Harvest is really nice, but if Incap hits you should be able to bow proc immediately after when they're stunned for more burst, than Stun, Soul Harvest, Bow Proc. As bow will always be dodged in that case
Dawnbreaker of Smiting is way better.oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Dawnbreaker of Smiting is way better.oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Dawnbreaker of Smiting is way better.oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Incap for Stamblade.
MurderMostFoul wrote: »I think I've settled on Soul Harvest.
In order for it to land with any reliability (Incap or SH), you need your target to be stunned anyways, so the 120 stun on Incap becomes useless.
Take away Incap's stun, and SH is clearly more powerful.
MurderMostFoul wrote: »So I just leveled my first NB (stamina) and am going to mostly BG with it. I want to run a morph of Death Stroke as my primary damage Ulti, so I am looking for some advice as to which I should choose. I'm not running any sets that would benefit one morph more than the other:
If Incapacitating Strike:
I'll get the stun with 120 Ult, and run a Nirnhoned 2H Maul. There is also a bit of added sustain.
If Soul Harvest:
I'll get Major Defile on every cast, but rely on Invisibility->Surprise attack for a stun. I'll run a Nirnhoned 2H Greatsword so my Ult still benefits from Heavy Weapons 2H passive, and I'll get 10 ult on every kill on my damage/front bar.
Which do y'all think is better?
RiskyChalice863 wrote: »MurderMostFoul wrote: »So I just leveled my first NB (stamina) and am going to mostly BG with it. I want to run a morph of Death Stroke as my primary damage Ulti, so I am looking for some advice as to which I should choose. I'm not running any sets that would benefit one morph more than the other:
If Incapacitating Strike:
I'll get the stun with 120 Ult, and run a Nirnhoned 2H Maul. There is also a bit of added sustain.
If Soul Harvest:
I'll get Major Defile on every cast, but rely on Invisibility->Surprise attack for a stun. I'll run a Nirnhoned 2H Greatsword so my Ult still benefits from Heavy Weapons 2H passive, and I'll get 10 ult on every kill on my damage/front bar.
Which do y'all think is better?
You don’t really want to rely on the stun from Surprise Attack, though. If there’s AOEs around or people otherwise pulling you out of stealth, it can become essentially impossible to stun someone at all. In that scenario, if you run Soul Harvest, you won’t have any workable stun. With Incap, you would. Yes, there’s a cast time, but still. I find Incap actually lands fairly consistently when you use it out of stealth. So you can get your stun that way. The big difference between that and the Surprise Attack stun is that if you’re not in stealth right as you’re attacking, the Surprise Attack stun won’t work. So, with Incap, you can cloak to make your Incap more likely to land, but even if something pulls you out of stealth right before you use it, it’ll still stun.
Also, I’m pretty sure that there are certain things on ults that don’t key off your highest stats. I’m not sure exactly what it is, but I suspect crit chance, crit damage, and/or penetration might not be based on your highest stats. In that case, you’re probably losing damage on the ult from using Soul Harvest. Maybe someone more knowledgeable about this particular issue could weigh in though, since I’m not certain of the exact mechanics there.
Also, it’s worth noting that Reave is actually a lot of sustain for a Nightblade in PvP.
I use Incap even on my Magblade in no-CP.
Incap stun into bow Will land.