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Greymoor Preview - NEW Vampire Skill line, Antiquities System, Zone Preview

  • ArchangelIsraphel
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    The antiquities minigame is oddly similar to the fossil hunting minigame in Parkasaurus, a park-building dinosaur game. The aesthetic is different, but the mechanics seem close.
    Legends never die
    They're written down in eternity
    But you'll never see the price it costs
    The scars collected all their lives
    When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
    Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
    Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
    Legends never die
  • eso_lags
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    Is this on the pts?

    Not yet. Certain content creators debuted previews today. The chapter is probably two weeks away from hitting the PTS.

    Oh thats nice. They want to use us to be their testing team for updates, for free, but want to give special people early access to test chapters. Fantastic. Either way thanks for letting me know, I guess videos will have to do for now.
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    virtus753 wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    Is this on the pts?

    Not yet. Certain content creators debuted previews today. The chapter is probably two weeks away from hitting the PTS.

    Oh thats nice. They want to use us to be their testing team for updates, for free, but want to give special people early access to test chapters. Fantastic. Either way thanks for letting me know, I guess videos will have to do for now.

    Start streaming your own ESO content, @eso_lags ...

    ... so that you, too, can become "special" and get early access.

    Edited by Taleof2Cities on March 31, 2020 3:22AM
  • MinarasLaure
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    It's going to be an Amaz(on)ing brand New World!

    Jokes aside, nah, not for me.
  • Q_Q
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    The only thing this post made me do is have a strong urge to replay Skyrim with mods, at least I can use skills in that game.
  • Jaraal
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    It all looks cool, except antiquities mini games. I think that looks a little cheap, like a mobile game.

    How much would you like to bet that there will be timer extenders or special "quick games" or minigame passes available for purchase in the crown store?
  • Hotdog_23
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    It all looks cool, except antiquities mini games. I think that looks a little cheap, like a mobile game.

    Vampire looks really cool and actually more of a specialised build choice.
    Are we losing the recovery passive though? I have vamp on a lot of characters just for this passive.
    That said I don;t have a problem with it, I like that it feels more like a choice than a must have.

    Does this mean I can also stay at stage 1 and use mist form all i like? lol...

    Also FIX THE GAME!!! :lol: I want to preorder this, but I won't until I feel confident I can play it.

    My same thoughts except the perorder stuuf since PS4 still can't preorder. The Mini games graphics does not inspire much. I have vamp on 17 characters, looks like some are getting cured for sure.
  • MattT1988
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    "Brain Drain"? Rly? >_>

    Sounds like the fast money round on a cheesy game show.
  • eso_lags
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    virtus753 wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    Is this on the pts?

    Not yet. Certain content creators debuted previews today. The chapter is probably two weeks away from hitting the PTS.

    Oh thats nice. They want to use us to be their testing team for updates, for free, but want to give special people early access to test chapters. Fantastic. Either way thanks for letting me know, I guess videos will have to do for now.

    Start streaming your own ESO content, @eso_lags ...

    ... so that you, too, can become "special" and get early access.

    Fantastic idea, especially now when the game is working so good 👌. Unless I want to stream erp in riften. And that would just make me part of the problem, no one should get special treatment for testing content based on random silly bs.

    If it were class reps it would make some sense at least, and I know some class reps are content creators. But to just give people early access to testing a chapter, at random, because that person makes videos or streams, is stupid. The vast majority of feedback on the PTS comes from regular players who are not content creators, obviously. So its just stupid to hold it back from everyone for 2 weeks for what, views and hype I guess?

    Either way its not a big deal its just annoying. And its nothing new, zos always makes strange choices. I dont recall them doing this for the last couple chapters either so that makes it more strange.
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    Personally, Mesmerise is a tad underwhelming, I would have settled with being able to summon a gargoyle or even a death hound.

    I know they are currently in pre-PTS but there should be questions about the blood scion ascension, such as:
    • is there a way to sustain the form to keep the blood scions duration up, primarily in order to keep it on par with the werewolf transformation duration lore wise, what with vampires and werewolves being natural enemies.
    • will some passives cater similarly to a werewolves passives, allowing blood scions to extend their transformation time?
    Moreover, the extra maximum stamina and health on blood scion transformation is not exactly good, Having the transformation active should only increase maximum Magicka, possibly by 30%, having it slotted should increase Magicka recovery by 15%, that would make it opposite to werewolf in which blood scions are Magicka based, werewolves are stamina based, and vice versa. (the Necromancers Bone Goliath transformation can be the health based transformation which binds the tri-source together.)
    If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...

    If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.
  • Palidon
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    I will say I am unimpressed with ZOS' new Antiquities System. Any further comments I would make about it would not be appreciated by ZOS and my comment would most likely be removed. So in closing, it is a feature that I will not be wasting my time with.
  • Ectheliontnacil
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    Rip nb cloak. Another blow to class identity.
  • mb10
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    Looks nice then I remember the overall combat balance and remember why I don’t play this game
  • VerboseQuips
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    A question : if you fail at the excavation mini-game, are you allowed to try again? Do you have find the lead again to try again? Can you find a same lead multiple times, or will there be a point where you'll have "finished" all the Antiquities?
    My characters:
    Main and crafter: A Breton magicka templar named Erwann Sorril
    Alt 1: A Bosmer sorcerer named Tuuneleg
    Alt 2: An Imperial dragonknight named Gaius Tullius Hastifer
    Alt 3: An Argonian vampire/nightblade named Observe-le-Xanmeer
    Alt 4: A Nord werewolf/dragonknight named Sigurd Hurlevent
    Alt 5: A Breton sorcerer named Gilian Sorril (he's Erwann's younger brother)
    Alt 6: A Khajiit nightblade named Jolan-dar
    Alt 7: A Nord warden named Sigurmar Hurlevent (he's Sigurd's younger brother)
    Alt 8: An Altmer templar named Oioriel
    Alt 9: An Argonian stamina Warden named Danse-avec-les-Rainettes
    Alt 10: A Redguard templar named Neemokh af-Corelanya
    Alt 11: A Nord stamina sorcerer named Olga Écoute-Vent
    Alt 12: A Breton magicka Warden named Ian Sorril
    Alt 13: A Dunmer magicka necromancer named Ilmoran Dren
    Alt 14: An Orc stamina necromancer named Norgol gro-Borziel
    Alt 15: A Nord magicka necromancer named Thorgen Givresang
    Alt 16: An Imperial magicka dragonknight named Publius Valeirus Hastifer (Just call him "Valerio" - he's Gaius younger troublemaker of a brother)
    Main in NA (For collaborative events): A Breton magicka nightblade named Titouan Sorril (long-lost brother of Erwann and Gilian)
  • Seraphayel
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    OldManJim wrote: »
    That antiquities system looks horrid.

    I don't want to play ESO: Minesweeper.

    Yeah even WoW's Archeology which was introduced 10 years ago looks way better than Antiquities. It looks as bad as we've expected right after the announcement.

    Greymoor is the first Chapter I haven't pre-purchased and right now I don't even consider buying it at all. Next year with Crowns I might get it but compared to Morrowind, Elsweyr and even Summerset, Greymoor looks bad. Don't get me wrong, Skyrim is beautiful, but I need more than just a nice zone to be hooked.
    Edited by Seraphayel on March 31, 2020 8:30AM
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  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    I like everything.
  • Ashtaris
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    And the new Vampire system brings NOTHING to the table for Stamina players. Nothing, zero, zilch. I hope they are going to offer free Vamp cures for some of my characters.
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    Ashtaris wrote: »
    And the new Vampire system brings NOTHING to the table for Stamina players. Nothing, zero, zilch. I hope they are going to offer free Vamp cures for some of my characters.

    Werewolf doesn't bring anything to the table for Magicka players so this seems balanced... although I'd wish both Vampire and Werewolf would be good for Magicka and Stamina builds.
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  • Thevampirenight
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    Ashtaris wrote: »
    And the new Vampire system brings NOTHING to the table for Stamina players. Nothing, zero, zilch. I hope they are going to offer free Vamp cures for some of my characters.

    I do think they want to have Vampires be Viable more for Magicka and Werewolves more Viable with stamina by the looks of it.
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  • Ashtaris
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    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Ashtaris wrote: »
    And the new Vampire system brings NOTHING to the table for Stamina players. Nothing, zero, zilch. I hope they are going to offer free Vamp cures for some of my characters.

    Werewolf doesn't bring anything to the table for Magicka players so this seems balanced... although I'd wish both Vampire and Werewolf would be good for Magicka and Stamina builds.

    Well if the new Vampire skill line is as crappy as the current WW, then I might agree with you :) But I do agree that they should offer Magicka/Stam morphs for both Vamp & WW.
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    Ashtaris wrote: »
    And the new Vampire system brings NOTHING to the table for Stamina players. Nothing, zero, zilch. I hope they are going to offer free Vamp cures for some of my characters.

    im sorry but if you cant afford 169 gold to cure vampirism then you are playing the game wrong.
  • FierceSam
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    eso_lags wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    virtus753 wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    Is this on the pts?

    Not yet. Certain content creators debuted previews today. The chapter is probably two weeks away from hitting the PTS.

    Oh thats nice. They want to use us to be their testing team for updates, for free, but want to give special people early access to test chapters. Fantastic. Either way thanks for letting me know, I guess videos will have to do for now.

    Start streaming your own ESO content, @eso_lags ...

    ... so that you, too, can become "special" and get early access.

    Fantastic idea, especially now when the game is working so good 👌. Unless I want to stream erp in riften. And that would just make me part of the problem, no one should get special treatment for testing content based on random silly bs.

    If it were class reps it would make some sense at least, and I know some class reps are content creators. But to just give people early access to testing a chapter, at random, because that person makes videos or streams, is stupid. The vast majority of feedback on the PTS comes from regular players who are not content creators, obviously. So its just stupid to hold it back from everyone for 2 weeks for what, views and hype I guess?

    Either way its not a big deal its just annoying. And its nothing new, zos always makes strange choices. I dont recall them doing this for the last couple chapters either so that makes it more strange.

    Except that being a class rep (or a really great player) might make you very well informed, but it doesn’t mean you are any good at making videos.

    ZOS clearly don’t want to create promo game materials themselves or feel it’s more honest/open to enable content creators to do this in their stead. However, they’re going to want to provide this material to people who they are confident can use it in an effective and timely manner. And who have an actual audience that might see it.

    Whatever your opinion on Dottz (and others) is, there is no doubt that he can put together a good looking clip with informed and considered opinion that is worth watching.

    2 weeks out from possible PTS launch might sound like a weird moment to release content like this, until you realise that in a different time this would be E3 week, and one of the major publicity points in the game’s annual calendar.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    I am massively disappointed by the Antiquities system, I expected something you actually had to do with your character. Some people said something like Indiana Jones comes to ESO, so I hoped for delves in which you had to dodge, sprint and jump to avoid traps. Instead we get a mini-game that looks like it doesnt belong in ESO. At least make it look like the CP system so it doenst look like a mobile P2W game.
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    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
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    What's the point in going to Skyrim is overland difficulty is like 0 ?
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    All I will say about the Antiquities System after watching that is, I hope the mythic items are bind on equip, I will be buying them on guild traders instead of bothering with those mini games over and over in the hopes of getting something useful.


    I do congratulate ZOS for creating a new system for the game that already makes me want to avoid it completely, not every developer can manage that when creating new content for their games.


    Vampire changes look interesting, hope the vampire lord transformation looks more like the promotional art work, than what they have shown though.


    As for more Skyrim probably the only reason I am leaning towards getting this chapter and as it is I will most likely be waiting for the chapter to go on sale, since the Vampire changes will be in the base game and the Antiquities System as it has been shown to be implemented holds no interest for me.
  • Caelc
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    bmnoble wrote: »
    All I will say about the Antiquities System after watching that is, I hope the mythic items are bind on equip, I will be buying them on guild traders instead of bothering with those mini games over and over in the hopes of getting something useful.


    I do congratulate ZOS for creating a new system for the game that already makes me want to avoid it completely, not every developer can manage that when creating new content for their games.


    Vampire changes look interesting, hope the vampire lord transformation looks more like the promotional art work, than what they have shown though.


    As for more Skyrim probably the only reason I am leaning towards getting this chapter and as it is I will most likely be waiting for the chapter to go on sale, since the Vampire changes will be in the base game and the Antiquities System as it has been shown to be implemented holds no interest for me.

    as far as i remember every chapter released has gone on sale within a month of release by about 33%. I am waiting. Chapter seems a waste of money right now. It really isn't worth more than $20
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    FierceSam wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    virtus753 wrote: »
    eso_lags wrote: »
    Is this on the pts?

    Not yet. Certain content creators debuted previews today. The chapter is probably two weeks away from hitting the PTS.

    Oh thats nice. They want to use us to be their testing team for updates, for free, but want to give special people early access to test chapters. Fantastic. Either way thanks for letting me know, I guess videos will have to do for now.

    Start streaming your own ESO content, @eso_lags ...

    ... so that you, too, can become "special" and get early access.

    Fantastic idea, especially now when the game is working so good 👌. Unless I want to stream erp in riften. And that would just make me part of the problem, no one should get special treatment for testing content based on random silly bs.

    If it were class reps it would make some sense at least, and I know some class reps are content creators. But to just give people early access to testing a chapter, at random, because that person makes videos or streams, is stupid. The vast majority of feedback on the PTS comes from regular players who are not content creators, obviously. So its just stupid to hold it back from everyone for 2 weeks for what, views and hype I guess?

    Either way its not a big deal its just annoying. And its nothing new, zos always makes strange choices. I dont recall them doing this for the last couple chapters either so that makes it more strange.

    Except that being a class rep (or a really great player) might make you very well informed, but it doesn’t mean you are any good at making videos.

    ZOS clearly don’t want to create promo game materials themselves or feel it’s more honest/open to enable content creators to do this in their stead. However, they’re going to want to provide this material to people who they are confident can use it in an effective and timely manner. And who have an actual audience that might see it.

    Whatever your opinion on Dottz (and others) is, there is no doubt that he can put together a good looking clip with informed and considered opinion that is worth watching.

    2 weeks out from possible PTS launch might sound like a weird moment to release content like this, until you realise that in a different time this would be E3 week, and one of the major publicity points in the game’s annual calendar.

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    Thanks fam appreciate it :)
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    so new Antiquities System means I will need to solve 100 repeatable puzzle to get some OP mythic Items to be able to keep play pvp and pve. and in case I will want to keep update all my charakters I will need to complete even more repeatable puzzle...? is this is MMO what we really want?
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