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Empieror title not available for female characters
Amenaide
Soul Shriven
Last year, after getting the Empieror title, i have noticed that it does not change to the female version (Empieress) when you 'equip' it on a female character. I had assumed that this was a bug and complained. I have received zero response. Why was the title made not available in both genders ? Do you think women dont play this game ?
I understand that some titles like Silencer, etc are unisex, but when you were making a funny title, were you aware that there is also a female version of it? If not aware, feel aware now.
This is very sexist.
I understand that some titles like Silencer, etc are unisex, but when you were making a funny title, were you aware that there is also a female version of it? If not aware, feel aware now.
This is very sexist.
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Xarc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I got it with my female characters in french, no problem
in french "empiereur" & "impieratrice"
I don't know in english, it's only "empieror" ?@xarcs FR-EU-PC -"Death is overrated", Xarc
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L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭In German it is "Baiser" and "Baiserin", both available. But really english never bothered much about using gender specific titles, I guess it works better in their language than in german.Edited by L_Nici on March 30, 2020 9:01PMPC|EU4 -
AmenaideSoul ShrivenDamn, I must say I'm jealous
Mine just says Empieror on my female character and it's very annoying2 -
ku5h✭✭✭✭✭
✭Will you apologize to ZoS for calling them sexist?
It's obviously not the case of them being sexist, but the "language case", and calling someone sexist is pretty serious.
I'm last one to defend ZoS, but when is see ppl dropping ists willy-nilly it really angers me, because those words loose all meaning, when they are supposed to define worst of ppl.
Next time check your fact before droping ist bomb on someone.
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SpacemanSpiff1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Last year, after getting the Empieror title, i have noticed that it does not change to the female version (Empieress) when you 'equip' it on a female character. I had assumed that this was a bug and complained. I have received zero response. Why was the title made not available in both genders ? Do you think women dont play this game ?
I understand that some titles like Silencer, etc are unisex, but when you were making a funny title, were you aware that there is also a female version of it? If not aware, feel aware now.
This is very sexist.
lazy? a bit.
sexist? no.22 -
AmenaideSoul ShrivenWill you apologize to ZoS for calling them sexist?
It's obviously not the case of them being sexist, but the "language case", and calling someone sexist is pretty serious.
I'm last one to defend ZoS, but when is see ppl dropping ists willy-nilly it really angers me, because those words loose all meaning, when they are supposed to define worst of ppl.
Next time check your fact before droping ist bomb on someone.
I play the game in English. I do not see the title available in the specific gender. I will not apologize. You are certainly entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.4 -
Saelent✭✭✭✭✭I really could not care less, but if other languages get versions of both...I do find it a bit odd.5 -
Eightpeaks✭✭Actually in English it would be Empress. So they could have gone for the (admittedly ugly) Empieress.@Hecco
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Sirona_Starr✭✭✭✭✭Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-20424648 -
CMDR_Un1k0rn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builderIn-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!8 -
Coppes✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former EmpressEdited by Coppes on March 30, 2020 8:28PM12 -
Vizikul✭✭✭✭In German it is "Kaiser" and "Kaiserin", both available. But really english never bothered much about using gender specific titles, I guess it works better in their language than in german.
Ah, no. It is "Baiser" and "Baiserin".Pugging. Pugging all the way to victory.Imperial Dragonknight --- male, stamina, heavy & medium armor, dual wield, one hand and shield, two handed.
Breton Templar --- female, magicka, light armor, restoration staff.
Redguard Warden --- female, stamina, medium armor, bow.
Breton Sorcerer --- male, magicka, light armor, destruction staff.
Imperial Templar --- male, stamina, medium armor, two handed.
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vestahls✭✭✭✭✭
✭If it was good enough for Emperor Irene of Athens, it should be good enough for you.
Besides, there's no real point to make it gender specific in a language (like English) that doesn't have gendered nouns like French and German. You might have actress, but you don't have doctress or captainess, do you?“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
luv Rigurt
luv Stibbons
'ate Ayrenn
'ate Razum-dar
'ate Khamira
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CMDR_Un1k0rn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!10 -
Coppes✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I really don’t care either way, as I don’t play female characters.
Edited by Coppes on March 30, 2020 8:37PM3 -
CMDR_Un1k0rn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.Edited by CMDR_Un1k0rn on March 30, 2020 8:41PMIn-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!0 -
Coppes✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.
I didn’t say that it was bad that you didn’t speak other languages. I don’t either.
The thing is there is still an extra title in French and German, and it’s not unreasonable for anyone here to say that there should be an Empieress title.
I would’ve agreed with you now, if there wasn’t a separate title in the other two languages of ESO.
Edited by Coppes on March 30, 2020 8:59PM3 -
CMDR_Un1k0rn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.
I didn’t say that it was bad that you didn’t speak other languages. I don’t either.
The thing is there is still an extra title in French and German, and it’s not unreasonable for anyone here to say that there should be an Empieress title.
I would’ve agreed with you now, if there wasn’t a separate title in the other two languages of ESO.
Interesting... But like I say, I would have no way to know nor reason to know that. Mainly because I wouldn't be able to comprehend what I would read in the first place, as I do not know the language.
What are the German & French variations?In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empress - guess that is good enough to qualify as a valid english word.0 -
redgreensunset✭✭✭✭✭
✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
Except Empresses are already established in Elder Scroll lore from Empress Katariah to Empress Regent Clivia Tharn, the latter of which is in this very damn game. So clearly ZOS have decided no such thing. They're just lazy.1 -
Coppes✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.
I didn’t say that it was bad that you didn’t speak other languages. I don’t either.
The thing is there is still an extra title in French and German, and it’s not unreasonable for anyone here to say that there should be an Empieress title.
I would’ve agreed with you now, if there wasn’t a separate title in the other two languages of ESO.
Interesting... But like I say, I would have no way to know nor reason to know that. Mainly because I wouldn't be able to comprehend what I would read in the first place, as I do not know the language.
What are the German & French variations?I got it with my female characters in french, no problem
in french "empiereur" & "impieratrice"
I don't know in english, it's only "empieror" ?In German it is "Baiser" and "Baiserin", both available. But really english never bothered much about using gender specific titles, I guess it works better in their language than in german.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
~ A homebrew D&D world builder
I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.
I didn’t say that it was bad that you didn’t speak other languages. I don’t either.
The thing is there is still an extra title in French and German, and it’s not unreasonable for anyone here to say that there should be an Empieress title.
I would’ve agreed with you now, if there wasn’t a separate title in the other two languages of ESO.
Interesting... But like I say, I would have no way to know nor reason to know that. Mainly because I wouldn't be able to comprehend what I would read in the first place, as I do not know the language.
What are the German & French variations?
In german one would use the latin word "Imperator" for the exact translation. The female latin form "imperatrix" isn't used in german. If we assume that an emperor rules over an empire, the most likely german titles would be "Kaiser" and "Kaiserin". Those words originate from the latin title "Caesar".Edited by Lysette on March 30, 2020 9:30PM0 -
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✭✭CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »Sirona_Starr wrote: »Emperor is a genderless position like champion.
Actually, Emperor is NOT a genderless position. https://britannica.com/topic/list-of-empresses-2042464
And Tamriel is not governed by the rules of real life language. Ultimately a title can apply to anything, especially in a fantasy setting where everything is made up.
If ZOS decides a title in ESO is genderless, then it's genderless, end of discussion. Their world, not yours.
Sorry, but that's the truth of it.
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I don’t agree with OP’s tone which comes out as very childish, but there are Empresses in TES.
Clivia Tharn is literally called Empress Regent. And there is someone in the game (Undaunted member) who goes by the Empress of Bone.
EDIT: And I’m sure the Cyrodiil PvP title for females is Empress/Former Empress
And we are not talking about that title.
We are talking about Empieror. A title that nobody even thought of until last year when ZOS made it an achievement.
The reason for being awarded this title is entirely different.
I do feel people are taking this one a bit too seriously.
"Empieror" is completely made up. It is not even a word. It is not in the dictionary. So any reference to the dictionary is frankly, bizarre.
And that does mean it can be as gender-neutral as ZOS pleases.
If you build worlds in written form, you would know this.
You lose your argument when you realize that if they truly wanted to make it genderless, then they wouldn’t of added it in other languages.
I only speak English. Is that a crime? I'm sure there are at least several tens of millions of people around the world who are in the same position as me there.
And again, it's a made-up word that is not recognised by any dictionary.
That is to say, there are no rules for this word, as it is not actually a word.
I'm not saying the title only applies to male characters. I'm saying it applies to everyone equally. I say this because it is the truth of the matter.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empress - guess that is good enough to qualify as a valid english word.
You're giving me a link to a dictionary entry of a word that exists to use against one made up by a game developer?
I'm not sure I see the relevance?
They may sound similar... But that does not make them the same.
There, their & they're comes to mind, as an example.In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!3 -
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✭I think it's just a mistake on ZoS's part rather than any true sexism, I think they try hard to be representative - usually. Howeverrrr I wonder if the title was only Empieress with no male variant how that would have gone down with the player base. Not too well, I'm thinking
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✭✭✭✭✭The word Empieror is not the same word as Emperor. I had assumed that it was a made up word being used in a way that was gender neutral, much in the same way as the word "Prince" is used among the daedra, where both male and female daedra can be called "Princes".
Also, I hate to open this particular can of worms, but ...do not presume to speak for all women or female characters. My female characters are perfectly fine wearing the title Empieror, as I am sure many others are as well. It sounds strong, and powerful, and the difference between having an r on the end versus a few s's matters very little when it comes to a pun about pie.
If people actually feel this strongly about it, then perhaps there should be a choice, so that male and female characters could use either version if they were to make two, so that those who like the title as is don't need to use one they like less.Edited by ArchangelIsraphel on March 31, 2020 12:11AMPC l NA
Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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✭✭✭✭✭The fact that so many people don't even understand which title the thread about and keep on bringing in "emperor/empress" (both are in the game, btw) in this discussion is hilarious.
To OP, I invite you to come up with a "pie" pun using the word "empress" without it sounding stupid or forced... Doesn't really work, huh? There's your problem.1 -
AmenaideSoul ShrivenThe fact that so many people don't even understand which title the thread about and keep on bringing in "emperor/empress" (both are in the game, btw) in this discussion is hilarious.
To OP, I invite you to come up with a "pie" pun using the word "empress" without it sounding stupid or forced... Doesn't really work, huh? There's your problem.
How exactly is Empieror any less ridiculous than Empieress?
The point is that I want to have a punny title for my character and seeing that there is one available for German and French, English should get it too.5
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