how does your loaded title mix with keep it constructive? A constructive discussion if the game will die? What pointless nonsense...besides, whats even your data for saying the player base is dwindling since steam data says the opposite...

Eso will die as soon as there is an replacement for it.

Eso is now 6 years old. This game struggles to attain its players, maybe because of this reason.
Look at achievement percentages. Even Zos knows people come back for chapters then disappears again.

ES 6 is definitely a threat. People say that single player games and an MMO have different audiences so ES 6 won’t affect eso. Obviously people are going to drop out to play ES 6.

Eso is a great game but people are getting bored

ESO pvp already quite dead outside of primetime. And its laggy all the time now. I kinda quit a year ago, but I still play from time to time, but its rarely fun due to lagg so I log in less and less. Its basicly the same with my friends who still play.

OlumoGarbag wrote: »

Eso will die as soon as there is an replacement for it.

...but I don't see any for the moment

Keylun wrote: »

Eso is now 6 years old. This game struggles to attain its players, maybe because of this reason.
Look at achievement percentages. Even Zos knows people come back for chapters then disappears again.

ES 6 is definitely a threat. People say that single player games and an MMO have different audiences so ES 6 won’t affect eso. Obviously people are going to drop out to play ES 6.

Eso is a great game but people are getting bored

you mean as with every long running mmorpg in the history of mmorpg's? color me shocked...

what zos has to do is

a) keep regular pve updates coming in

b) fix pvp performance and expand on pvp modes

and the game will be gucci

Only if Zenimax decides to shut it down, its not dead till they pull the plug for good.

This would seem to be another thread purporting to be about the overall playerbase but actually only related to the very small part of it that comprises those who only play the game for PvP. Judging by all the coverage to date, they won't find "the new game" to be any good, but either way it won't impact significantly on the viability of this game - which has already been written off in the past by the falsely anticipated success of both Wildstar and ArcheAge and the "mass" rejection of previous skill/combat changes. Yet here we are with loads of players wherever you go in the game, locked campaigns in Cyrodiil, and rising figures in the Steam charts, not to mention threads requesting free stuff for all the gamers flocking to the game while they're in self-isolation plus the servers creaking under the population load.

Everything dies eventually.

All we have to do is decide what to do with the time given to us.

I am available for motivational speaking. @me

Ah. Negativity threads.

We are currently living in a time where high stress levels are common, which has negative effects across the board. All of these things contribute greatly to what we see written in the forum, and when you combine that with lingering new problems from the latest update, it is easy to think negative about the game.

For the performance bugs that are outstanding right now, all of this world-wide stress could not have happened at a worse time. Performance bugs like this can be a bear to find and fix when everything is going good. It is probably going to take longer to address these things than it normally would. Even at "normal speed", such fixes come too slow for many people.

ZOS rolled out an update to PTS that included some combat ideas that they wanted feedback on. I think that if they had done this in January, the response would have been different. Today, with some players wondering what the future holds for them, and whether their lives will ever get back to normal, thinking about a big future change in the game combat just adds to the stress. Others, not so much.

The game devs will continue to work towards fixing bugs, fixing combat, improving performance. It is what they are paid to do, even if it is harder to do that right now. The results might not meet the expectations of everyone, but there will be results, and I think things will get better. Not perfect, but better.

Each person needs to do what they need to do to deal with what is going on, both in the game and in life. For some, that might mean leaving the game to go elsewhere. For others, it might mean leaving another game to come here. No game is perfect, and the grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence.

For me, at a time when playing ESO for hours in not in the cards, I will sit back and wait.

Better question would be will ESO PVP die. I don't know but at least according to forums the pvp players say the lag/desync is horrible and the game is unplayable.

And the constant whining about the class X and skill Y being OP - and this will be always the fact in game Z.

So is ESO dying? I don't know, I'm pretty happily playing the PVE content at least. Only problem I have is that I would need to change my build every two months because of the changes and I don't quite enjoy that.

If they can't fix the lag then yeah for sure it will.

Even now most people I know are just treading water in ESO until another good MMO comes along. The only thing ESO really has going for it is the combat, and with the lag being as bad as it is, eventually even the combat isn't fun anymore.

If another MMO with good combat came along I'd be outta here. It's not fun doing trials or pvp when half your skills don't work, boss mechanics don't work, you get random 800+ ping lagspikes or never ending load screens.