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My friends and I want to do battlegrounds together.
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Coppes✭✭✭✭paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »Please hurry up and fix the group queue function for battlegrounds, we play games like this to play together, if we wanted to play a single player game we would go play Skyrim.
And i want to do battle ground without you and your team, i want a real solo.
So ?
I hear Skyrim is solo play?
ESO is Skyrim Online now?Edited by Coppes on March 21, 2020 6:00PM0 -
DreadDaedroth✭✭✭✭✭
✭As single player of BGs I find this solo queue only decadence silly. Let's make this game more and more antisocial.
It's my choice to queue solo and I get all the consequences of that cutting out people who wants to play with friends, guild members, people whom did previous BGs with you from grouping together is unbelievable. Plus collecting datas from this thing, are we Guinea pigs?Edited by DreadDaedroth on March 21, 2020 6:41PM0 -
Jaraal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Me and the wife cancelled our eso plus and have barely logged on since harrowstorm due to the change. We'll just take a break from the game for now and keep an eye out what Greymoor will bring. I do regret that we preordered it before these changes appeared in the pts notes though.
First DLC I haven't pre-ordered. Things are going downhill faster than ever.2 -
mikeb16_ESO77✭✭✭Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.1 -
Naftal✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.0 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »I dont really understand what you mean.
There’s a difference between not understanding the post and feigning ignorance.
In other words, why does that post have 4 awesomes, 1 insightful, and 1 agree ... ?0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop1 -
Naftal✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
It's not equal to 4 player premade obviously. It's still a premade and gives a huge advantage over random players. You stop with the nonsense.3 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Be able to do social things in an mmo, BLASPHEMY. Cyrodiil? Shunned. BGs? Shunned. Group finder? Busted. Trials? Nearly unplayable.
Solo questing. Mostly doable.0 -
thissocalledflower✭✭✭✭I understand people want to play together but i am glad it's solo queueing. I don't want to spend hours to get the daily bonus. Most of the time i want the bonus for the daily first or second place and then move on.
NOW if they would give the daily bonus no matter the outcome... then i could care less about the premades...After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lots of us want to do BG with our friends. But Zeni has made clear that it’s not the vision they have for the game.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche0 -
mikeb16_ESO77✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »I dont really understand what you mean.
There’s a difference between not understanding the post and feigning ignorance.
In other words, why does that post have 4 awesomes, 1 insightful, and 1 agree ... ?
No really, I dont understand what you mean with holding the game hostage due to cancelling ones supscription and stop playing it when the main reason you played the game was removed. I have tried given plenty of feedback in all the other threads about this change. I tried to fight it on the pts. I'm not telling others to do the same. If zos finds that there is not enough interest to reintroduce the ability to play BGs together then so be it. I'll mourn the loss since I love the game but it will just not be for me anymore and thus I wont play and by extension not pay for it.Edited by mikeb16_ESO77 on March 21, 2020 10:36PM0 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
Yeah, I'm fine with 1 queue, max group size 2. A duo is an advantage, but nothing compared to a full form in pre-made. You still have half your team lacking the heightened coordination of a premade team. It wouldn't lead to all the ball group stupidity that you see with four man premades.“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”0 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭MurderMostFoul wrote: »mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
Yeah, I'm fine with 1 queue, max group size 2. A duo is an advantage, but nothing compared to a full form in pre-made. You still have half your team lacking the heightened coordination of a premade team. It wouldn't lead to all the ball group stupidity that you see with four man premades.
I'm fine with a second queue as many have said, but I suspect the group queue would get very little traffic.“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”1 -
Berek_Bloodfang✭✭✭Just do it like League of Legends, SoloQ, DuoQ, and Full Squad. Then match them accordingly.0
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Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just a note for all you "I want to PvP solo" people, since it's clear that many of you don't know: There's this thing in the game called "duelling". It's really easy to use. There's a button for it on the interaction menu when you mouse over another player. It lets you solo PvP to your heart's content, all day any day, *without even waiting in a queue*!! And you aren't limited to just a few fields, you can do it almost anywhere!0 -
tului78✭✭I don't even mind allowing 4 man groups but they should only be allowed to go against other 4 man groups. No other groups? Well, split up and queue individually (or in groups of 2, I support letting that queue with normal folks too).0
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Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
And solo is not equal to a duo, stop saying daft sthings!
Solo means solo and grp means group of any size there is no middle ground!
solo q or grp q done! Or keep solo.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
And solo is not equal to a duo, stop saying daft sthings!
Solo means solo and grp means group of any size there is no middle ground!
solo q or grp q done! Or keep solo.
Solo and duo should be the same que and 4 man should be another one.Edited by Qbiken on March 22, 2020 5:57PM0 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
And solo is not equal to a duo, stop saying daft sthings!
Solo means solo and grp means group of any size there is no middle ground!
solo q or grp q done! Or keep solo.
Solo and duo should be the same que and 4 man should be another one.
Yeah, but 4 man q would be a ghost town.“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”0 -
CleymenZero✭✭✭✭✭
✭paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »Please hurry up and fix the group queue function for battlegrounds, we play games like this to play together, if we wanted to play a single player game we would go play Skyrim.
Yeah with Harrowstorm they removed group queues. I was playing with a friend on the regular and with this change, kinda stopped playing.
I'm keeping track of things and might come back later.
Weird to say... I don't miss ESO as much as I miss having fun playing ESO.0 -
Berek_Bloodfang✭✭✭ug, we are starting to lose interest in this game, we really enjoyed the playing battlegrounds together
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Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
And solo is not equal to a duo, stop saying daft sthings!
Solo means solo and grp means group of any size there is no middle ground!
solo q or grp q done! Or keep solo.
Solo and duo should be the same que and 4 man should be another one.
no, thats the opposite of what the word group means! if you wanna GROUP then go into the GROUP q!!!
It just sounds like you want to make a duo on comms with massive advantage against solo and do again what the exact reason was that got it changed!
Solo is solo and grp is grp 2,3 or 4 end of chat!
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
And solo is not equal to a duo, stop saying daft sthings!
Solo means solo and grp means group of any size there is no middle ground!
solo q or grp q done! Or keep solo.
Solo and duo should be the same que and 4 man should be another one.
no, thats the opposite of what the word group means! if you wanna GROUP then go into the GROUP q!!!
It just sounds like you want to make a duo on comms with massive advantage against solo and do again what the exact reason was that got it changed!
Solo is solo and grp is grp 2,3 or 4 end of chat!
Your assumptions are wrong about me and in my hears it sounds like you're just salty about losing BG's and liked to blame it on the enemy teams being premade.
And I stand by my suggestion that solo and duo que should be under the same section.0 -
HalvarIronfist✭✭✭✭paul.olesonb14_ESO wrote: »Please hurry up and fix the group queue function for battlegrounds, we play games like this to play together, if we wanted to play a single player game we would go play Skyrim.
I feel like this change is pretty cynical.
In my opinion, this changed from enough crying from people who refused to adapt to having to deal with premade groups, but now want those players that were effected by the change to adapt.
Because why would you ever want to play PVP with your friends in an MMO?
It is indeed so completely unreasonable a premade co-ordinated group would often defeat un-coordinated groups of randoms, it's almost as if that was the purpose, and is completely fair to any player to go and do the same.
Sure, Horse riding simulator exists, assuming you don't get stupid levels of lag or disconnect/crashing.Edited by HalvarIronfist on March 22, 2020 10:37PM0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭mikeb16_ESO77 wrote: »Group q, inclusive of 2 man-4 man groups needs to exist as a stand-alone feature away from solo q. And hopefully it will at some point.
2 man should not be included with solo, I can queue with a pocket healer, never die and do 3M damage a game. That’s a game ruined for 10 others that never had a chance.
Let alone when it was that pocket healer and 3 equally experienced dps
The q is faster now but the matchmaking is still embarrassing and quite baffling.
If two full teams cant handle you and your pocket healer its really an MMR issue isnt it? Othwewise it just shows how overtuned healers are atm rather then he/she just focus healing you.
No, it's an issue of premade vs randoms. Just because there's two of you and not four doesn't mean you aren't a premade.
I'm all for a second queue for 2 and 4 man groups but premades of any size need to be kept away from solo queue.
Duo is not equal to a premade, just stop
And solo is not equal to a duo, stop saying daft sthings!
Solo means solo and grp means group of any size there is no middle ground!
solo q or grp q done! Or keep solo.
Solo and duo should be the same que and 4 man should be another one.
no, thats the opposite of what the word group means! if you wanna GROUP then go into the GROUP q!!!
It just sounds like you want to make a duo on comms with massive advantage against solo and do again what the exact reason was that got it changed!
Solo is solo and grp is grp 2,3 or 4 end of chat!
Your assumptions are wrong about me and in my hears it sounds like you're just salty about losing BG's and liked to blame it on the enemy teams being premade.
And I stand by my suggestion that solo and duo que should be under the same section.
What exactly am i assuming that you are not leading by saying you want to Q as duo but dont want to face 4 man premades and be disadvantaged you want to be a duo and Q against solo and be advantaged?
Solo means level playing field!
In my 'hears'??? it sounds like your ass needs a carry!
I stand by my suggestion which is solo is solo and group is group, which is also ZO$'s direction so GG, L2solo.
I dont lose BG's! I could quite easily Q as a duo on comms with my buddy and wipe 500-0-0 like it was vs premade for the majority, ZO$ dont want this so wave it bye bye, it was too easy and would be again, at least solo is a challenge... sometimes, and will be better when/if MMR levels out.0 -
wylievc✭✭✭Adding my 2 cents.
It's worse now for sure, queues legitimately take longer for me, double or triple the time and I see the same names over and over. Sometimes I wait 10-20mins for a queue. It seems to me like most of the people who advocated for the solo q change had their fun, tried out the game mode, lost interest, inevitably, and left. Not only just them but now so many actual PvP players like you, others in this forum, and my friends quite playing PvP all together in this game due to the change, so we seemingly are left with fewer people than we started with.
At very least they should be allowing 2 players to queue together during their "testing". I've lost interest/happiness in participating in BGs because I know I will never get to share the experience with anyone I know. There was actually a time when I accidentally was placed in a match with a friend and I hadn't had that much fun playing the game since the change went live, that's sad.
Not to mention, premades may have been an issue, but what about players who would prefer to team up against 2 other premades as a matter of ultimate competition? Those players are few, but if it was advertised and rewarded properly, you would see a niche for it that would fill out a premade vs premade queue category, and allow duos to queue in the regular queue.
Ultimately if you want to see more players in BGs to fill out multiple queue options you need to change the reward structure. Rewards incentivize players to come to the game mode and right now they are fairly abysmal and the little value they have is offset by how boring they are to receive a reward for the worthy. Many no-cp BG players like myself only enter PvE content because we are forced to in order to obtain the gear necessary to play the game mode. Why not implement reward tracks akin to sPvP in GW2 or something similar. Make it so that players can choose a dungeon set and other Bind-on-Pickup sets in their reward track and then completing BG activities, earning points in BGs and doing BG dailies will contribute progress toward earning those set rewards. That way you would find it easier to make build diversity in these modes as well as rewarding players to come and play.1 -
Agree. Need a que for solo and group mode; as well as better matching system... Also would like leader board separation for below 50 and above 50. #dreamalittledream@squirre1monkey na / pc --- a.k.a twitch.tv/cutecircus0