Please help me make a character like this.

MagicPie · March 2020

I would like to try magicka character since most of my characters are/were stamina based, but i would like to make one that can have following:

1. I want it to be a range DPS mage, so no spells that require me to melee.
2. I would like it to have decent survivability so i can do open world without much trouble.
3. I would like it to be viable for veteran dungeons.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Icy_Waffles · March 2020

Literally any of them.

Lady_Linux · March 2020

no problem. easiest is a magplar. go to alcast and follow their guidlines until you l2p your toon... then adapt with what works best for you.

i used to level up a magplar to cp status: 5 torugs pact, frost staff, resto staff and 3 arcane jewels; 5 seducer, heavy chest, medium legs, light hands, feet, and waist; 2 inate axiom, light head and shoulders. All training gear for weapons and armor

Depending on your build use 7 magicka enchants for armor unless you need one for health and then put the one health one on the chest piece. Restore health enchant is good for resto staff; crusher, weakening, or fire enchant on your ice staff as you prefer. spell damage enchants on the jewels.

Crirital damage for mundus should be good.

Agenericname · March 2020

That's the criteria for all but magDK and magplar, and really you could play the magplar without jabs if you wanted. They can all do well in vet dungeons and overland, so it comes down what playstyle you want to play the most.

MagicPie · March 2020

Can i nightblade be a good ranged mage? And if so what spells would you recommend?

doomette · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

Can i nightblade be a good ranged mage?

I have more success within melee range (and find it loads more fun), but I’ve tried ranged, uh, range and it worked for soloing vanilla dungeons. Haven’t tried more difficult content though.

Agenericname · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

Can i nightblade be a good ranged mage?

Yes. They were better at point than they are now in my opinion, but they're still very good. Make one, if you enjoy playing it go have a blast.

MagicPie · March 2020

Okay thanks a lot for help

And0ssus · March 2020

Magicka Nightblade is pretty nice

Good surviveability (heal Spammer).
Probably best Sustain out off all Magicka Classes.
Good Dmg.
Strong Execute.

But maybe still one of the hard(erst) Classes in ESO because of spectral Bow procc mechanic (La - Weaving)?.

Magblade is still my Personal favourite out of all Magbased Classes.
Always pick her Up, if i have to run a Magicka Class.

MagicPie · March 2020

And0ssus wrote: »

Magicka Nightblade is pretty nice

Good surviveability (heal Spammer).
Probably best Sustain out off all Magicka Classes.
Good Dmg.
Strong Execute.

But maybe still one of the hard(erst) Classes in ESO because of spectral Bow procc mechanic (La - Weaving)?.

Magblade is still my Personal favourite out of all Magbased Classes.
Always pick her Up, if i have to run a Magicka Class.

Any chance you could link me which spells you are using?

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2020

Any magic class is viable at range, but you sort of have to think about what range means. All classes will want to at least get into the range of Blockade, and most classes have a skill or two that will draw you into melee range from time to time. A NB may want to use incap, a DK might want to use embers or engulfing flames, a warden will want to use deep fissure, a templar might want to use Jabs from time to time, etc.

If you really want to completely go ranged, I think your best options are mag Sorc and mag NB. NBs arent in the best spot at the moment. They dont have a great trade off between damage and ease of rotation. I would recommend a mag sorc for your first ranged magic character, but it's certainly not the only option.

MagicPie · March 2020

I see, does magicka sorc have survivability and does it have survivability without pets? I am not a fan of pets.

doomette · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

I see, does magicka sorc have survivability and does it have survivability without pets? I am not a fan of pets.

Yes, thank goodness. I hate flappy flap (the healing morph of the winged pet). There’s a skill that will heal you when you do crit damage, plus shields and an ability that converts stamina to magicka and health.

MagicPie · March 2020

Okay thanks, i think i am going to make a magicka sorc.

Edit: But i really wanted to make a magicka nightblade, but i am looking at skills NB have and i just cannot see the "range" mage build out of it

doomette · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

Okay thanks, i think i am going to make a magicka sorc.

It’s a fun class, I hope you enjoy it.

Edit: and about the magblade, if you ever want to try out a melee magicka character later on, they’re super fun. Wiggletocks the Dainty (my khajiit magblade) may not be BiS, but she’s a hoot to play.

MagicPie · March 2020

doomette wrote: »

CiferX wrote: »

Okay thanks, i think i am going to make a magicka sorc.

It’s a fun class, I hope you enjoy it.

Edit: and about the magblade, if you ever want to try out a melee magicka character later on, they’re super fun. Wiggletocks the Dainty (my khajiit magblade) may not be BiS, but she’s a hoot to play.

Melee magicka NB plays with a staff as well right?

Lixiviant · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

I would like to try magicka character since most of my characters are/were stamina based, but i would like to make one that can have following:

Thanks in advance for any help!

I run alot of solo dungeons and quests, and the build that really works for me is Alcast. It is powerful and you can have fun with it. Sometimes I'll swap out another skill just to try it out.

https://alcasthq.com/eso-solo-magicka-sorcerer-build-pve/

I use a matriach as the pet, BTW.

MagicPie · March 2020

Oh nice thanks for the link, i will go with that and check how i like it, but without a pet ofc

Lixiviant · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

Oh nice thanks for the link, i will go with that and check how i like it, but without a pet ofc

Don't worry, AlcastHQ has something for every taste!

MagicPie · March 2020

Oh btw i am looking at necromancer skills, they are mostly ranged, how is the magicka necro?

xXMeowMeowXx · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

Can i nightblade be a good ranged mage? And if so what spells would you recommend?

Magblade - sounds like your fit. They are completely worth the effort.

Magden - you can’t go wrong with one. Really fun to do content with one.

Sorc - non pet or pet will do everything.

Magromancer - is beautiful for me and my Mgdk....

I would suggest taking one of your Stamina classes that you are familiar with and try the magic version. It should cut down the learning curve for you.

Good luck and have lots of fun

MagicPie · March 2020

Ty

i will go for necro and see how it go, can always make another class later on.

doomette · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

doomette wrote: »

CiferX wrote: »

Okay thanks, i think i am going to make a magicka sorc.

It’s a fun class, I hope you enjoy it.

Edit: and about the magblade, if you ever want to try out a melee magicka character later on, they’re super fun. Wiggletocks the Dainty (my khajiit magblade) may not be BiS, but she’s a hoot to play.

Melee magicka NB plays with a staff as well right?

Backbar for WoE and such, but DW swords frontbar (swords specifically because they buff all damage with one of the DW passives). Again it’s definitely *not* BiS because of lower LA damage and other things, but I find it super fun. I just won’t be taking her to any vet dungeons or anything.

lagrue · March 2020

Just my bit, but I wouldn't try for an exclusively ranged Mag toon. In regards to most mag classes, some of their most potent/important skills are still direct attack skills.

It's possible to make a fully ranged mag toon on any of them, I just wouldn't advise it unless you're absolutely hellbent on that condition. Sorc is probably the best class for pulling this off without major skill sacrifices, as most Sorc skills are ranged or self target, and your pets are naturally "ranged."

Just thinking of other classes though... like Templar, playing without Jabs is insanity... I would argue the same for Searing Strike/Whip on DKs etc.

MEBengalsFan2001 · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

I would like to try magicka character since most of my characters are/were stamina based, but i would like to make one that can have following:

1. I want it to be a range DPS mage, so no spells that require me to melee.
2. I would like it to have decent survivability so i can do open world without much trouble.
3. I would like it to be viable for veteran dungeons.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Remove the stabby spear ability from a templar and you are golden to go.

snoozy · March 2020

magplar is easy mode.

please don't go petsorc. i hate the pets

snoozy · March 2020

hack the minotaur has a lot of awesome builds on youtube! a lot of solo builds as well, so great survivability guaranteed

MagicPie · March 2020

Tnx for info

And0ssus · March 2020

CiferX wrote: »

Any chance you could link me which spells you are using?

It depends on the situation, but i can give u an example:

Frontbar :
Inner Light (mages guild)
Twisting Path (shadow)
Funnel Health (Siphoning)
Impale (assassination)
Merciless Resolve (assassination)
ULT Soul Harvest (assassination)

Backbar:
unstable Wall of Elements (Destruction Staff)
Mystic Orb (Undaunted)
Dark Shade (Shadow)
channel Acceleration (psjic Guild) or Barbed Trap (Fighters Guild)
Siphoning Attacks (siphoning)
ULT Elemental Rage (Destruction Staff)

u can always swap out for example the dark shade and the inner light for
shield
an extra single target dot (consuming Trap - helps with sustain, Degeneration, crippling Grasp)
an AoE spammable (Sap Essence - good AoE Spammer with Healing and dmg reduction against enemies)
or for Camouflaged Hunter (Fighters Guild - gives you Minor Berserk if u attack an enemy from behind)

You also can swap out funnel health for another Spammable (force Pulse - bit more AoE cleave dmg or elemental Weapon - a bit more ST dmg) but make sure if u do that, u have to slot another ability from siphoning on your Frontbar for the passive (8% more max. Magicka if u have an ability slotted on your bar).

But i think with that skill Setup, that i mentioned, you have pretty good AoE and single Target DMG and Funnel Health gives you enough Healing for the most time. Shield would be to much in the most Situations, but if you strugle with suviveability you can slot it anytime.

Sorry for answering so late, didn´t check the Forum the last days

barney2525 · March 2020

Agenericname wrote: »

That's the criteria for all but magDK and magplar, and really you could play the magplar without jabs if you wanted. They can all do well in vet dungeons and overland, so it comes down what playstyle you want to play the most.

Sure, but why would you want to play Magplar without jabs? You Heal yourself as you are doing damage. No better combination than that.

IMHO

Ratzkifal · March 2020

I'd suggest magsorc.
It has good survivability for a damage build with shields and critical surge heal, relies on forcepulse as a spammable, so it's more or less locked into being ranged on default and you can pull decent dps numbers even without pets (although not as high as with them).
It's certainly viable for vet dungeons.