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magnb needs buff
Noctus
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atm its rly showing which classes in bg dominate like stamcro and stamdk and magsorc. magnb rly needs more offense to make close quater light armor work burst is just to weak right now. or is there someone overly successfull with it in bg and can provide video and build ?
Edited by Noctus on March 6, 2020 7:53PM 5
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brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'll try to get you a recent clip later today.
Build is Destro/Resto - 5 Spinners, 5 Bright Throats, 2 Slimecraw (back bar is Potentates).0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I do okayish, but I do well on every class and a little bit worse on magblade than others.
I had one BG today with two magblades on it and we did really well, think the other magblade was LEOBTIX or something like that. We had a healer on our team though, I find because self healing is such an issue for magblades any off healing really improves performance.
I've never made a video before so can't give one. My build is funky: caluurion + balorg + Darloc.
One cool thing about magblade atm is so many people are crutching BRP DW so being all single target can be good.Edited by Iskiab on March 6, 2020 9:36PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
tsaescishoeshiner✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭5 New Moon Acolyte, 5 War Maiden's, with your monster set of choice
Frontbar:
Swallow Soul, Impale, Grim Focus, Flame Clench, Inner Light, Soul Harvest
Backbar:
Resto staff. I use Combat Prayer and Radiant Regeneration
Steed Stone + Sugar Skull food (tri-stat with health recovery)
I used to run cloak and Concealed Weapon- it really nukes people. But I prefer to build Grim Focus stacks from range. Flame Clench and Soul Harvest really give the build squishy brawler potential.
It's been doing more poorly since Harrowstorm, but generally gets high damage and high heals (just from those two healing skills). Without premades, a bit of healing on the side makes a huge differencePC-NA
in-game: @tsaescishoeshiner0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Oh wait, don’t you do a lot of BGs Noctus? Maybe I have the name wrong.
Anyways, here’s what I’m using now. I’d rather be using Kena instead of Balorg’s but I don’t have a light Kena helm (I think I deconed it thinking I wouldn’t need it) and am wearing 2m because I don’t have caal pants and don’t feel like doing PvE, and I’m not wearing full impen because I ran out of transmutation stones.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
Basicly abusing how healing abilities don’t take you out of crouch with Darloc for my sustain. It’s sort of funny, but in this build I hit 900k healing in one BG.Edited by Iskiab on March 6, 2020 11:30PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Oh wait, don’t you do a lot of BGs Noctus? Maybe I have the name wrong.
Anyways, here’s what I’m using now. I’d rather be using Kena instead of Balorg’s but I don’t have a light Kena helm (I think I deconed it thinking I wouldn’t need it) and am wearing 2m because I don’t have caal pants and don’t feel like doing PvE, and I’m not wearing full impen because I ran out of transmutation stones.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
Basicly abusing how healing abilities don’t take you out of crouch with Darloc for my sustain. It’s sort of funny, but in this build I hit 900k healing in one BG.
For me Kena was only pulling slightly more damage than Slimecraw. Rapid Regen was marginally more ofc.
The double light attack requirement does not feel natural and is really the most off-putting part of it (for me at least).2 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »Oh wait, don’t you do a lot of BGs Noctus? Maybe I have the name wrong.
Anyways, here’s what I’m using now. I’d rather be using Kena instead of Balorg’s but I don’t have a light Kena helm (I think I deconed it thinking I wouldn’t need it) and am wearing 2m because I don’t have caal pants and don’t feel like doing PvE, and I’m not wearing full impen because I ran out of transmutation stones.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=207332
Basicly abusing how healing abilities don’t take you out of crouch with Darloc for my sustain. It’s sort of funny, but in this build I hit 900k healing in one BG.
For me Kena was only pulling slightly more damage than Slimecraw. Rapid Regen was marginally more ofc.
The double light attack requirement does not feel natural and is really the most off-putting part of it (for me at least).
I was going to try it like a fire and forget set instead of managing it. Balorg is okay but I don’t meteor that much, maybe I should just use two stat 1 pieces, IDK, or even Chudan. I doubt my build has very good uptime on major resolve/ward.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭The whole class is in desperate need of a buff unfortunately we just have to make do with what we have atm into zos fixes it 😔1 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Deathlord92 wrote: »The whole class is in desperate need of a buff unfortunately we just have to make do with what we have atm into zos fixes it 😔
Except for my magicka NightBlade ganker 🤫1 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.Say no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge4 -
Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
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Thinking about going ganker on one of my stamblades I have 3 lol 😂Unfadingsilence wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »The whole class is in desperate need of a buff unfortunately we just have to make do with what we have atm into zos fixes it 😔
Except for my magicka NightBlade ganker 🤫
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »
Thinking about going ganker on one of my stamblades I have 3 lol 😂Unfadingsilence wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »The whole class is in desperate need of a buff unfortunately we just have to make do with what we have atm into zos fixes it 😔
Except for my magicka NightBlade ganker 🤫
Currently 90% of gankblades after Heresya vid runs with Zaan, Caluurion and set of choice (I'd go for spinner or elfabane if you're good at preserving zaan).Say no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge0 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.
Yea, I agree. I don’t mind being squishier and having lower damage and little aoe in a non-group spec, what irks me most is feeling slower than other classes because of no good pvp snare and no expedition.
I mean, you can build for that stuff and it works well, but against stam they feel faster and hit a lot harder and don’t have to really build for it, just hit sprint or use a bow.
Cloak is only as good for defense if you add speed to get out of aoe spam. Removing the speed just made magblade feel like a sitting duck. Every time I get run down in cloak by a stam who I know is in heavy with 5k weapon damage it irks me. Heck I do it as a MagWarden, spam aoe and there isn’t much a NB can do.Edited by Iskiab on March 8, 2020 1:01AMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
Khatou✭✭✭✭logically it is the NB who should *** the players, but not for the moment ZoS has decided that the templar and ganker and immortal should kill the pvp .
Honestly the more I play pvp the more I wonder if she's interested, especially when you see classes more than abused and ZOS doesn't give a damn about it by playing mute...1 -
mav1234✭✭✭✭✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.
Yea, I agree. I don’t mind being squishier and having lower damage and little aoe in a non-group spec, what irks me most is feeling slower than other classes because of no good pvp snare and no expedition.
I mean, you can build for that stuff and it works well, but against stam they feel faster and hit a lot harder and don’t have to really build for it, just hit sprint or use a bow.
Cloak is only as good for defense if you add speed to get out of aoe spam. Removing the speed just made magblade feel like a sitting duck. Every time I get run down in cloak by a stam who I know is in heavy with 5k weapon damage it irks me. Heck I do it as a MagWarden, spam aoe and there isn’t much a NB can do.
I am continually gap closed out of stealth by players in cyrodil now, too. Either that, or everyone is running detect potions... which is possible.2 -
Iskiab✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.
Yea, I agree. I don’t mind being squishier and having lower damage and little aoe in a non-group spec, what irks me most is feeling slower than other classes because of no good pvp snare and no expedition.
I mean, you can build for that stuff and it works well, but against stam they feel faster and hit a lot harder and don’t have to really build for it, just hit sprint or use a bow.
Cloak is only as good for defense if you add speed to get out of aoe spam. Removing the speed just made magblade feel like a sitting duck. Every time I get run down in cloak by a stam who I know is in heavy with 5k weapon damage it irks me. Heck I do it as a MagWarden, spam aoe and there isn’t much a NB can do.
I am continually gap closed out of stealth by players in cyrodil now, too. Either that, or everyone is running detect potions... which is possible.
Lol, we need to convince stam there’s only one viable setup like last patch. When everyone’s in the same build it’s a lot easier to counter build against it.Edited by Iskiab on March 8, 2020 11:33PMLooking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten1 -
Langeston✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.
Yea, I agree. I don’t mind being squishier and having lower damage and little aoe in a non-group spec, what irks me most is feeling slower than other classes because of no good pvp snare and no expedition.
I mean, you can build for that stuff and it works well, but against stam they feel faster and hit a lot harder and don’t have to really build for it, just hit sprint or use a bow.
Cloak is only as good for defense if you add speed to get out of aoe spam. Removing the speed just made magblade feel like a sitting duck. Every time I get run down in cloak by a stam who I know is in heavy with 5k weapon damage it irks me. Heck I do it as a MagWarden, spam aoe and there isn’t much a NB can do.
I am continually gap closed out of stealth by players in cyrodil now, too. Either that, or everyone is running detect potions... which is possible.
Based on everything I've read in these forums, it is indeed impossible that everyone is running detect pots. Most people apparently have no idea that they exist, and the ones that do know about them swear they don't work or that using them will break their build.
Oh, and cloak is the most OP skill in the game and there aren't any viable counters.2 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.
Yea, I agree. I don’t mind being squishier and having lower damage and little aoe in a non-group spec, what irks me most is feeling slower than other classes because of no good pvp snare and no expedition.
I mean, you can build for that stuff and it works well, but against stam they feel faster and hit a lot harder and don’t have to really build for it, just hit sprint or use a bow.
Cloak is only as good for defense if you add speed to get out of aoe spam. Removing the speed just made magblade feel like a sitting duck. Every time I get run down in cloak by a stam who I know is in heavy with 5k weapon damage it irks me. Heck I do it as a MagWarden, spam aoe and there isn’t much a NB can do.
I am continually gap closed out of stealth by players in cyrodil now, too. Either that, or everyone is running detect potions... which is possible.
Based on everything I've read in these forums, it is indeed impossible that everyone is running detect pots. Most people apparently have no idea that they exist, and the ones that do know about them swear they don't work or that using them will break their build.
Oh, and cloak is the most OP skill in the game and there aren't any viable counters.
Hahah:D Made me laugh cause it's so true, all those "experienced" PvP players who have no idea how to turn off skill that has the most counters in the game
All is awesome guys, everyone knows magblade is pretty bad right now, but somehow I don't see any hope for the class. Even if somehow, ZOS will decide to buff NB I'm afraid it will be buff to stamblade.Say no to Toxic Casuals!
I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.
"Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game." - @AlexanderDeLarge0 -
russelmmendoza✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hm... Those who met me in Cyrodiil may disagree with OP, but magblade definitely needs few things. Most of all it needs cast times to be removed from class Ults, this is THE ONLY CLASS WITH CAST TIMES ON ULTS. We also need reliable source of major expedition, twisting path is not the answer or not the only answer. Mass hysteria needs some uniqness over the turn evil, I don't know, minor breach and fracture IMHO would be awesome.
Yea, I agree. I don’t mind being squishier and having lower damage and little aoe in a non-group spec, what irks me most is feeling slower than other classes because of no good pvp snare and no expedition.
I mean, you can build for that stuff and it works well, but against stam they feel faster and hit a lot harder and don’t have to really build for it, just hit sprint or use a bow.
Cloak is only as good for defense if you add speed to get out of aoe spam. Removing the speed just made magblade feel like a sitting duck. Every time I get run down in cloak by a stam who I know is in heavy with 5k weapon damage it irks me. Heck I do it as a MagWarden, spam aoe and there isn’t much a NB can do.
I am continually gap closed out of stealth by players in cyrodil now, too. Either that, or everyone is running detect potions... which is possible.
Based on everything I've read in these forums, it is indeed impossible that everyone is running detect pots. Most people apparently have no idea that they exist, and the ones that do know about them swear they don't work or that using them will break their build.
Oh, and cloak is the most OP skill in the game and there aren't any viable counters.
Hahah:D Made me laugh cause it's so true, all those "experienced" PvP players who have no idea how to turn off skill that has the most counters in the game
All is awesome guys, everyone knows magblade is pretty bad right now, but somehow I don't see any hope for the class. Even if somehow, ZOS will decide to buff NB I'm afraid it will be buff to stamblade.
They just killed the nightblade class.
Why the the heck are they gonna buff it for.
Those that can still rule bg with their nightblade are elites among players.
Sadly, I am not one of those elites.
Fml, smh.0 -
OWLTHEMAD✭✭✭✭logically it is the NB who should *** the players, but not for the moment ZoS has decided that the templar and ganker and immortal should kill the pvp .
Honestly the more I play pvp the more I wonder if she's interested, especially when you see classes more than abused and ZOS doesn't give a damn about it by playing mute...
This post gave me an anuerism. Mind clearing that up a bit?1 -
HEBREWHAMMERRR✭✭✭✭✭The skill gap is high with mnb but some slight tuning would go a long way. As stated earlier, removing our cast time on ult would be a large step in the right direction. We are 100% dependent on our burst ability to kill someone and the fact ZOS absolutely gimped this is mind blowing. Aside from that some tweaks to abilities could go a long way. I know siphoning revert or cloak purge coming back would probably push us over the edge but I’ve been a long advocate that SWALLOW SOUL should be unavoidable imo. The concept of the ability and delay in the time of the ability to the heal would seem to make this appropriate. Maybe I’m biased, idk. That being said, class is still good in good hands but nowhere near where it once was.1
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✭If they speed up the projectile speed of Merciless magblade would be a lot better. The main problem I see with magblade is how unreliable and slow the damage is. The amount of damage magblade can do might be fine but it’s hard to gauge because it’s so unreliable. If you are point blank range and cc your opponent the spectral bow should be a guaranteed hit. A way to deal with dodge roller spam when your opponent gets to low health would also help a lot0