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What happened to the price of Columbine ?
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geonsocal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭not so popular opinion:
if you need crafted pots for pvp - you're doing it wrong...
pots from daily rewards and good ol' siege merchant swill are more than adequate in almost all situations...
I farmed for a few years in this game...my farming days are over, i'd rather just spend the time pvping...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place2 -
Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.7 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.0 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting greedy human syndrome.
Edit.
I hate bots too.Edited by TheFM on March 8, 2020 6:19PM1 -
Disturbed_One✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.9 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.Edited by TheFM on March 8, 2020 4:38PM2 -
Disturbed_One✭✭✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.Edited by Disturbed_One on March 8, 2020 4:40PM10 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The cost of potion materials is getting to be too much. People that strictly play the guild trader economy are ruining it for the rest of us. The cost of Bugloss on Xbox NA shot up to 60k a stack, Columbine is over 40k. Mountain Flower over 20K now. Even Tears went from 13k to almost 20k. I can't afford Tri-Pots. I burn through them in PvP, probably 3-4 stacks a week.
People spend hours traveling from zone to zone, buying all of the Bugloss or Columbine or whatever and relisting it at the major city traders. Then they start competing with each other and raising it by tiny increments.
I tried farming for the mats myself, it took almost 2 hours to find 4 Bugloss, Columbine & Mountain Flower. I'd burn through 16 potions in about 16 minutes of combat.
You know in zone chat when people are listing items they want to buy for half the market value, and others chime in with "scammer! hes a scammer, you can get twice that price for your kuta!"? Guess what? It's not a scam. It's the only way to potentially drop the cost of materials other than Zos flooding the market with materials. They could of course buy the materials at those low costs and the guild traders to in turn buy it from them cheaper anyway, but some of it would reach the market first.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say here I guess is....send me free Bugloss. /rant
Well, they are kind of scamming, if they are trying to trick a new player into selling their stuff for way under current market price.
Slightly under is fine, as they are avoiding guild trader fees.
If supply is too low (and it sounds like it, currently, must be), ZOS need to up it, simple as that.0 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.
TTC also recommends 450 gold per. However that is not the case if you look at all guilds across tamriel atm. Mm also only applies to two guilds in your case and does not offer NEARLY a complete picture of the problem atm. When I buy cornflower, which is at least every other day, the prices have gone from a reasonable 350-450 to 900-1100 per flower. There is a reason hardly anyone uses mm anymore. Also if that is the price you are selling for, then you would be the type of person I reward with my business. So the " crappy person syndrome" doesn't even apply to you.Edited by TheFM on March 8, 2020 4:47PM1 -
Arunei✭✭✭✭✭
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People could argue you're being greedy and selfish by wanting others to provide for you at a loss to their own profit.450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
It's called supply and demand. When supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up. It's Economics 101 friend. Yet you seem to expect prices to stay the same even if people are getting less of certain mats than they were before. You don't think people are entitled to charge more for mats that take more time and/or effort to get now? Just so *you* aren't inconvenienced by said price increase?
If it's too much for you to buy, maybe spend some time farming your mats yourself instead of demanding others stop being greedy and charge less for something for your benefit. After all if it's easy or not that time-consuming then surely you should have no problems getting your own stuff.
Also keep in mind that if prices go too high, people won't buy, and prices will go down over time. If prices are going up and staying there that means people are buying at that price because they're okay with it. Most of them probably realize people selling at these prices are people who have adjusted their prices to reflect that these mats take longer to get than they used to.
Edit to add I have several hundred of both Cornflower and Columbine, but I don't sell them. I use them for my own stuff and give them to friends and guildies who need some every so often. Even if I did sell them, I *always* price my stuff below what MM lists as the average price. I'm always the person undercutting because generally my stuff will sell faster that way. Do I care if someone buys my listing just to flip it for more? Not in the slightest, I got my gold and power to anyone who buys my stuff, whether for their own use or to resell. But as a farmer/crafter myself, I can 100% see why people would want to charge stuff for their mats in a way that reflects the amount of work they're putting in.
Edited by Arunei on March 8, 2020 5:07PMPC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
I...
How exactly do you expect bots to stop the greedy people from buying the mats the bots sell and then raising the prices?
It won't do a thing. Alchemy flowers aren't the sort of mat where bots can flood the market.
Price gougers will still be able to buy up the supply and relist it for whatever they want.
Supporting bots hurts the actual players who farm mats. It doesn't do a single thing to stop the price gougers.
So seriously, if you want to stop price gougers, look for a solution that doesn't hurt the players who are playing as intended. Bots aren't even going to give you the result you want, while in the meantime making it that much harder for the players who actually farm mats to sell.2 -
Disturbed_One✭✭✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.
TTC also recommends 450 gold per. However that is not the case if you look at all guilds across tamriel atm. Mm also only applies to two guilds in your case and does not offer NEARLY a complete picture of the problem atm. When I buy cornflower, which is at least every other day, the prices have gone from a reasonable 350-450 to 900-1100 per flower. There is a reason hardly anyone uses mm anymore. Also if that is the price you are selling for, then you would be the type of person I reward with my business. So the " crappy person syndrome" doesn't even apply to you.
listing price =! sales You can't use the two terms interchangeably.
MM is a better gauge of prices (even with a smaller sample size) because it's the actual sales of the items are listed.
TTC misses almost all of the good "deals" since they never get scanned in before they are bought, and will almost always show the higher prices items, since they move slowly, if at all. Yes, it has access to more information, but it is flawed just like MM is flawed.
If Corn Flower was selling for 900-1100, you would think there'd be at least 1 sale, in the 911 in my sample that was even approaching that cost. Yet, the highest is 50% less than that. That is being disingenuous at best. lying at worst.9 -
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Here's the current listing for Corn Flower at Spicy Economics in Mournhold (a very large seller)
I went through all 5 stalls in Raw'lka. Highest was 699 a unit.
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✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.
TTC also recommends 450 gold per. However that is not the case if you look at all guilds across tamriel atm. Mm also only applies to two guilds in your case and does not offer NEARLY a complete picture of the problem atm. When I buy cornflower, which is at least every other day, the prices have gone from a reasonable 350-450 to 900-1100 per flower. There is a reason hardly anyone uses mm anymore. Also if that is the price you are selling for, then you would be the type of person I reward with my business. So the " crappy person syndrome" doesn't even apply to you.
listing price =! sales You can't use the two terms interchangeably.
MM is a better gauge of prices (even with a smaller sample size) because it's the actual sales of the items are listed.
TTC misses almost all of the good "deals" since they never get scanned in before they are bought, and will almost always show the higher prices items, since they move slowly, if at all. Yes, it has access to more information, but it is flawed just like MM is flawed.
If Corn Flower was selling for 900-1100, you would think there'd be at least 1 sale, in the 911 in my sample that was even approaching that cost. Yet, the highest is 50% less than that. That is being disingenuous at best. lying at worst.
Yes, keep calling me a liar. This was a quick sample from Rawlka and Vardenfell. 350-450 has been the standard price for years now. This is recent and has started in the last 3 weeks,
VaranisArano wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
I...
How exactly do you expect bots to stop the greedy people from buying the mats the bots sell and then raising the prices?
It won't do a thing. Alchemy flowers aren't the sort of mat where bots can flood the market.
Price gougers will still be able to buy up the supply and relist it for whatever they want.
Supporting bots hurts the actual players who farm mats. It doesn't do a single thing to stop the price gougers.
So seriously, if you want to stop price gougers, look for a solution that doesn't hurt the players who are playing as intended. Bots aren't even going to give you the result you want, while in the meantime making it that much harder for the players who actually farm mats to sell.
I have made a solution. I have a list of people gauging prices, I have black listed them and will no longer support them at all. Only players using the average prices of the last few years will be getting my business.
People could argue you're being greedy and selfish by wanting others to provide for you at a loss to their own profit.450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
It's called supply and demand. When supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up. It's Economics 101 friend. Yet you seem to expect prices to stay the same even if people are getting less of certain mats than they were before. You don't think people are entitled to charge more for mats that take more time and/or effort to get now? Just so *you* aren't inconvenienced by said price increase?
If it's too much for you to buy, maybe spend some time farming your mats yourself instead of demanding others stop being greedy and charge less for something for your benefit. After all if it's easy or not that time-consuming then surely you should have no problems getting your own stuff.
Also keep in mind that if prices go too high, people won't buy, and prices will go down over time. If prices are going up and staying there that means people are buying at that price because they're okay with it. Most of them probably realize people selling at these prices are people who have adjusted their prices to reflect that these mats take longer to get than they used to.
Yes, the people gauging prices suddenly over the last few weeks are not greedy, the people who have been loyally buying the mats for years at the avg prices are. xD1 -
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✭✭✭✭I'd also like to see the proof that "hardly anyone uses MM". Not all people who sell things use it, true, but a whole slew of people still use it because it gives you an idea of what price items are selling at.PC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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Krisiel: Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
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✭✭I'd also like to see the proof that "hardly anyone uses MM". Not all people who sell things use it, true, but a whole slew of people still use it because it gives you an idea of what price items are selling at.
If I could give you the log of my trade guilds telling all the players in it not to use MM anymore, I would, however I cannot.0 -
Disturbed_One✭✭✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.
TTC also recommends 450 gold per. However that is not the case if you look at all guilds across tamriel atm. Mm also only applies to two guilds in your case and does not offer NEARLY a complete picture of the problem atm. When I buy cornflower, which is at least every other day, the prices have gone from a reasonable 350-450 to 900-1100 per flower. There is a reason hardly anyone uses mm anymore. Also if that is the price you are selling for, then you would be the type of person I reward with my business. So the " crappy person syndrome" doesn't even apply to you.
listing price =! sales You can't use the two terms interchangeably.
MM is a better gauge of prices (even with a smaller sample size) because it's the actual sales of the items are listed.
TTC misses almost all of the good "deals" since they never get scanned in before they are bought, and will almost always show the higher prices items, since they move slowly, if at all. Yes, it has access to more information, but it is flawed just like MM is flawed.
If Corn Flower was selling for 900-1100, you would think there'd be at least 1 sale, in the 911 in my sample that was even approaching that cost. Yet, the highest is 50% less than that. That is being disingenuous at best. lying at worst.
Yes, keep calling me a liar. This was a quick sample from Rawlka and Vardenfell. 350-450 has been the standard price for years now. This is recent and has started in the last 3 weeks,VaranisArano wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
I...
How exactly do you expect bots to stop the greedy people from buying the mats the bots sell and then raising the prices?
It won't do a thing. Alchemy flowers aren't the sort of mat where bots can flood the market.
Price gougers will still be able to buy up the supply and relist it for whatever they want.
Supporting bots hurts the actual players who farm mats. It doesn't do a single thing to stop the price gougers.
So seriously, if you want to stop price gougers, look for a solution that doesn't hurt the players who are playing as intended. Bots aren't even going to give you the result you want, while in the meantime making it that much harder for the players who actually farm mats to sell.
I have made a solution. I have a list of people gauging prices, I have black listed them and will no longer support them at all. Only players using the average prices of the last few years will be getting my business.
People could argue you're being greedy and selfish by wanting others to provide for you at a loss to their own profit.450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
It's called supply and demand. When supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up. It's Economics 101 friend. Yet you seem to expect prices to stay the same even if people are getting less of certain mats than they were before. You don't think people are entitled to charge more for mats that take more time and/or effort to get now? Just so *you* aren't inconvenienced by said price increase?
If it's too much for you to buy, maybe spend some time farming your mats yourself instead of demanding others stop being greedy and charge less for something for your benefit. After all if it's easy or not that time-consuming then surely you should have no problems getting your own stuff.
Also keep in mind that if prices go too high, people won't buy, and prices will go down over time. If prices are going up and staying there that means people are buying at that price because they're okay with it. Most of them probably realize people selling at these prices are people who have adjusted their prices to reflect that these mats take longer to get than they used to.
Yes, the people gauging prices suddenly over the last few weeks are not greedy, the people who have been loyally buying the mats for years at the avg prices are. xD
People always list stuff for higher... and stacks of 3... lol.. that's what you're basing your "high price" on... lol
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✭✭✭Maybe because people are unsubbing. Thus, no more crafting bag. So it's hard to hold onto 1000s of columbine to craft with. Now people are having to buy more and more columbine instead of having hordes of it from their crafting bag.
That's just my theory.
Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.
TTC also recommends 450 gold per. However that is not the case if you look at all guilds across tamriel atm. Mm also only applies to two guilds in your case and does not offer NEARLY a complete picture of the problem atm. When I buy cornflower, which is at least every other day, the prices have gone from a reasonable 350-450 to 900-1100 per flower. There is a reason hardly anyone uses mm anymore. Also if that is the price you are selling for, then you would be the type of person I reward with my business. So the " crappy person syndrome" doesn't even apply to you.
listing price =! sales You can't use the two terms interchangeably.
MM is a better gauge of prices (even with a smaller sample size) because it's the actual sales of the items are listed.
TTC misses almost all of the good "deals" since they never get scanned in before they are bought, and will almost always show the higher prices items, since they move slowly, if at all. Yes, it has access to more information, but it is flawed just like MM is flawed.
If Corn Flower was selling for 900-1100, you would think there'd be at least 1 sale, in the 911 in my sample that was even approaching that cost. Yet, the highest is 50% less than that. That is being disingenuous at best. lying at worst.
Yes, keep calling me a liar. This was a quick sample from Rawlka and Vardenfell. 350-450 has been the standard price for years now. This is recent and has started in the last 3 weeks,VaranisArano wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
I...
How exactly do you expect bots to stop the greedy people from buying the mats the bots sell and then raising the prices?
It won't do a thing. Alchemy flowers aren't the sort of mat where bots can flood the market.
Price gougers will still be able to buy up the supply and relist it for whatever they want.
Supporting bots hurts the actual players who farm mats. It doesn't do a single thing to stop the price gougers.
So seriously, if you want to stop price gougers, look for a solution that doesn't hurt the players who are playing as intended. Bots aren't even going to give you the result you want, while in the meantime making it that much harder for the players who actually farm mats to sell.
I have made a solution. I have a list of people gauging prices, I have black listed them and will no longer support them at all. Only players using the average prices of the last few years will be getting my business.
People could argue you're being greedy and selfish by wanting others to provide for you at a loss to their own profit.450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
It's called supply and demand. When supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up. It's Economics 101 friend. Yet you seem to expect prices to stay the same even if people are getting less of certain mats than they were before. You don't think people are entitled to charge more for mats that take more time and/or effort to get now? Just so *you* aren't inconvenienced by said price increase?
If it's too much for you to buy, maybe spend some time farming your mats yourself instead of demanding others stop being greedy and charge less for something for your benefit. After all if it's easy or not that time-consuming then surely you should have no problems getting your own stuff.
Also keep in mind that if prices go too high, people won't buy, and prices will go down over time. If prices are going up and staying there that means people are buying at that price because they're okay with it. Most of them probably realize people selling at these prices are people who have adjusted their prices to reflect that these mats take longer to get than they used to.
Yes, the people gauging prices suddenly over the last few weeks are not greedy, the people who have been loyally buying the mats for years at the avg prices are. xD
People always list stuff for higher... and stacks of 3... lol.. that's what you're basing your "high price" on... lol
Are we going to ignore the stacks of 200 there also that have 1000 gold per as the listing price? Should I get more pictures to prove you wrong and debunk your slander calling me a liar? You have provided me with information from 2 guilds, I have provided pictures from several guilds , and could provide many many more. I use corn flower VERY often, and I have seen the prices sky rocket in Alinor, Vvardenfell, Rawl Ka, Mournhold, Grahtwood, and various other spots.
But yeah, keep calling me a liar, even tho i just proved you wrong.Edited by TheFM on March 8, 2020 5:10PM3 -
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✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Yeah, its awful how people selling stuff are forcing buyers to pay their prices. You know, instead of the buyer deciding for themselves the cost is too high and either finding lower prices, or spending some time farming. Way back before official hirelings and writs, one of my guilds had people who would farm mats for patrons/friends. The people who wanted to roam and explore picked up mats and got gold, or got help with their own farming in return later when they were ready to do crafting. Oh the horror of people and crappy behavior. /sarcasm4 -
Disturbed_One✭✭✭✭Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed.
Thanks for proving my point about crappy people.
Here's Corn Flower for good measure.
As you can see. I'm in 2 trade guilds, one of them the largest on PC/NA. and there isn't EVEN A SINGLE SALE FOR THE 1000 GOLD A PIECE YOU ARE CLAIMING.....
I hate liars.
TTC also recommends 450 gold per. However that is not the case if you look at all guilds across tamriel atm. Mm also only applies to two guilds in your case and does not offer NEARLY a complete picture of the problem atm. When I buy cornflower, which is at least every other day, the prices have gone from a reasonable 350-450 to 900-1100 per flower. There is a reason hardly anyone uses mm anymore. Also if that is the price you are selling for, then you would be the type of person I reward with my business. So the " crappy person syndrome" doesn't even apply to you.
listing price =! sales You can't use the two terms interchangeably.
MM is a better gauge of prices (even with a smaller sample size) because it's the actual sales of the items are listed.
TTC misses almost all of the good "deals" since they never get scanned in before they are bought, and will almost always show the higher prices items, since they move slowly, if at all. Yes, it has access to more information, but it is flawed just like MM is flawed.
If Corn Flower was selling for 900-1100, you would think there'd be at least 1 sale, in the 911 in my sample that was even approaching that cost. Yet, the highest is 50% less than that. That is being disingenuous at best. lying at worst.
Yes, keep calling me a liar. This was a quick sample from Rawlka and Vardenfell. 350-450 has been the standard price for years now. This is recent and has started in the last 3 weeks,VaranisArano wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Agreed. People shouldn't be crappy. They shouldn't attack people who've had different experiences. They shouldn't exaggerate data to prove their point (to the point to ridiculousness). They shouldn't assume that everybody is being manipulative and evil and part of some sinister master plan that is out to get them.
Increasing prices by 300 percent by certain individuals to corner the market is good behaviour? LolVaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
As a player who makes my gold primarily from farming resources, butt in chair, fingers on keyboard, I would not prefer bots.
Bots break the TOS. Yeah, it annoys me to compete with automated programs when I'm an actual player farming mats as intended. Butt in chair, fingers on keyboard. I never mind other players farming along my route, but bots? Its not just unfair, its against the rules of the game.
Bots automate some farms to the point of completely pricing players out of some markets. Its not worth it for me to gather certain mats because bots just do it more efficiently and drive the price rock bottom. Good examples are clean pelts and fleshfly larva.
No offense to you, but supporting bots so you can have cheaper prices comes at the expense of players who actually play the game as intended, farming resources for use or sale with their butt in the chair, fingers on the keyboard. Its not going to do a thing to stop item flippers or price gougers, but it is directly going to harm the players who actually farm as intended.
No thank you.
450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
I...
How exactly do you expect bots to stop the greedy people from buying the mats the bots sell and then raising the prices?
It won't do a thing. Alchemy flowers aren't the sort of mat where bots can flood the market.
Price gougers will still be able to buy up the supply and relist it for whatever they want.
Supporting bots hurts the actual players who farm mats. It doesn't do a single thing to stop the price gougers.
So seriously, if you want to stop price gougers, look for a solution that doesn't hurt the players who are playing as intended. Bots aren't even going to give you the result you want, while in the meantime making it that much harder for the players who actually farm mats to sell.
I have made a solution. I have a list of people gauging prices, I have black listed them and will no longer support them at all. Only players using the average prices of the last few years will be getting my business.
People could argue you're being greedy and selfish by wanting others to provide for you at a loss to their own profit.450 gold per cornflower was reasonable, price gauging up to 1000 gold per cornflower makes me prefer bots, sorry not sorry. There is no reason to jack up the price that much aside from unbridled greed. I will continue to support players using reasonable prices with hundreds of thousands of gold per week and expanding my black list every time I see someone Bering incredibly greedy.
It's called supply and demand. When supply goes down and demand goes up, prices go up. It's Economics 101 friend. Yet you seem to expect prices to stay the same even if people are getting less of certain mats than they were before. You don't think people are entitled to charge more for mats that take more time and/or effort to get now? Just so *you* aren't inconvenienced by said price increase?
If it's too much for you to buy, maybe spend some time farming your mats yourself instead of demanding others stop being greedy and charge less for something for your benefit. After all if it's easy or not that time-consuming then surely you should have no problems getting your own stuff.
Also keep in mind that if prices go too high, people won't buy, and prices will go down over time. If prices are going up and staying there that means people are buying at that price because they're okay with it. Most of them probably realize people selling at these prices are people who have adjusted their prices to reflect that these mats take longer to get than they used to.
Yes, the people gauging prices suddenly over the last few weeks are not greedy, the people who have been loyally buying the mats for years at the avg prices are. xD
People always list stuff for higher... and stacks of 3... lol.. that's what you're basing your "high price" on... lol
Are we going to ignore the stacks of 200 there also that have 1000 gold per as the listing price? Should I get more pictures to prove you wrong and debunk your slander calling me a liar? You have provided me with information from 2 guilds, I have provided pictures from several guilds , and could provide many many more. I use corn flower VERY often, and I have seen the prices sky rocket in Alinor, Vvardenfell, Rawl Ka, Mournhold, Grahtwood, and various other spots.
But yeah, keep calling me a liar, even tho i just proved you wrong.
Yet... my 50 days of data from two large trade guilds (in the cities you mentioned) showed fairly steady prices..
Also, you proved nothing other than that some idiots are over pricing stuff... not that it's actually selling for that price...Edited by Disturbed_One on March 8, 2020 5:15PM6 -
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✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »Time for Alchemy Hireling.
Or a more creative idea: gardening as a part of housing. Planting my own garden and watering it every day to harvest it later. Might be good tool to prevent spikes in prices of very specific alchemy mats such as Corn Flower or Columbine.
Yeah, we need this desperately, something needs or be done to cap the prices of ingredients, no normal player can afford these ingredients with these bloated prices.
Is this a bad time to mention that the Anniversary Event is coming up when everyone and their alts runs as many crafting writs as they can? For all that we get alchemy reagents back from writ rewards, demand is very likely to spike.
My one concern with combining Housing and resources mats of any type is the ability of bots to abuse it.
At this point I would prefer bots over people displaying disgusting crappy human syndrome.
Yeah, its awful how people selling stuff are forcing buyers to pay their prices. You know, instead of the buyer deciding for themselves the cost is too high and either finding lower prices, or spending some time farming. Way back before official hirelings and writs, one of my guilds had people who would farm mats for patrons/friends. The people who wanted to roam and explore picked up mats and got gold, or got help with their own farming in return later when they were ready to do crafting. Oh the horror of people and crappy behavior. /sarcasm
That is actually what I am doing, I will not reward anyone that gauges the prices, and with the columbine I am roaming tamriel offering stacks for that price as well. I get many many hate messages saying Im various nasty insults because im undercutting the price gaugers, but I dont care, no one should have to pay those absurd prices.2 -
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✭✭✭I'd also like to see the proof that "hardly anyone uses MM". Not all people who sell things use it, true, but a whole slew of people still use it because it gives you an idea of what price items are selling at.
If I could give you the log of my trade guilds telling all the players in it not to use MM anymore, I would, however I cannot.
You have really crappy trading guilds then. Why do you belong to a guild that forces you to set prices that aren't "average"?3 -
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✭✭I'd also like to see the proof that "hardly anyone uses MM". Not all people who sell things use it, true, but a whole slew of people still use it because it gives you an idea of what price items are selling at.
If I could give you the log of my trade guilds telling all the players in it not to use MM anymore, I would, however I cannot.
You have really crappy trading guilds then. Why do you belong to a guild that forces you to set prices that aren't "average"?
MM has been unreliable and has been automatically deleting guild information for months, so we have decided to stop using it, and we encourage everyone to use TTC or ATT.0 -
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You keep claiming that people are gouging (gauging is not the word you want it means something completely different) prices without acknowledging the basic concept of supply and demand. The simple fact is that if these mats are harder and more time consuming to get than they were, then people will charge more. That's not people gouging, it's basic economics. And it doesn't change the fact that if these prices are too steep for you that you have every ability to go farm them yourself.Yes, the people gauging prices suddenly over the last few weeks are not greedy, the people who have been loyally buying the mats for years at the avg prices are. xD
Let's also reiterate a point @VaranisArano made about bots actually encouraging what you're having an issue with. Bots price things at ridiculously low prices because the people running them are putting literally no work into it. The gougers are going to be the ones to snap up those lower priced listings most of the time, not the average person who'd actually use them. So it really does hurt everyone to support bots over actual players. If people price things too low the gougers will almost always be the ones grab those and relist them.
And again, if prices are truly and steadily going up like this it means people are paying that price, enough so that it's profitable to sell at that price. Clearly that means numerous people don't have as much an issue with the price increase, or else these things wouldn't be getting listed at these higher prices on a regular basis, as you're implying is happening.
Also your screens don't prove anything, really. There are overinflated prices on everything in guild stores, especially on single items and smaller stacks. Just search for furniture crafting mats and you'll see all manner of things ridiculously priced.
Edited by Arunei on March 8, 2020 5:21PMPC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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Sarah Lacroix: Breton Vampire who really really REALLY likes likes learning Magick and also her Altmer husbando
Kaalhil Swiftstrike: Tiny shapeshifting monster hunter Bosmeri lady with enough sass to kill a dragon or ten
Gwendolyn Jenelle: Friendly healer with a coffee addiction and her own medical practice
Krisiel: Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
Marius Vastino: Sarah's Imperial apathetic sire who likes to monologue
Lirawyn Calatare: Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
Soliril Larethian: Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time2 -
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✭✭✭✭Also quick note that encouraging TTC doesn't help in determining what prices to list your stuff because it only shows you what things are being priced at, not at what prices things are actually selling for. It helps when paired with something else like MM or other tracking addons, but as a standalone it's not useful for pricing things.PC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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RP Characters:
Sarah Lacroix: Breton Vampire who really really REALLY likes likes learning Magick and also her Altmer husbando
Kaalhil Swiftstrike: Tiny shapeshifting monster hunter Bosmeri lady with enough sass to kill a dragon or ten
Gwendolyn Jenelle: Friendly healer with a coffee addiction and her own medical practice
Krisiel: Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things and is also a spy and ALSO a Werewolf
Niralae Elsinal: Young Altmeri woman with way too much Magicka and Vampire husbando
Slondor: TESified Slenderman, except lazier and has more of a thing for deals than Clavicus Vile does
Marius Vastino: Sarah's Imperial apathetic sire who likes to monologue
Lirawyn Calatare: Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
Soliril Larethian: Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time3