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Whats the reason behind Alliance Lock?
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Commancho✭✭✭✭✭Alliance lock gives you a feeling of playing actual campaign instead of some quick play garbage with friends.5 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
BoomXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach7 -
ultimnib16_ESO✭✭✭First reason is that it is POPULAR.
Locked Campaign has mostly more people playing than unlocked campaign.
Second reason is that it makes sense in the world of Tamriel.
We have 3 Alliances fighting for the throne.
Obviously the soldiers who belong to an Alliance, would not and could not join the ennemy and then randomly come back.
Third reason is that it adds a team dimension as opposed to a mere individual dimension.
Players don't only fight to get some personnal advantages but they also fight for a team.
Many people prefer the team spirit to a lone wolf spirit.
Fourth reason is that there are guilds dedicated to one Alliance only.
One gets to fight with friends who share a similar mindset for team PvP.
Fifth reason is that winning an Alliance Campaign is meaningful as opposed to the solo mode where Victory is meaningless due to the whole side hopping, spying and farming.
But above all else, the main reason is that the players should have the Freedom to choose the style in which they want to play team based PvP.
Those who like locked play locked and those who Don't, play unlocked.
It is the same thing with the choice CP or no CP.4 -
Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.1 -
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✭Pvp players want a serious competitive campaign. I just play unlocked now and get a couple of medals on each faction to guarantee 50 transmute gems every reset.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »Is there an official Statement from ZOS why they put faction lock?
Zos made an official statement when they announced they were bringing back alliance lock sometime last year. The first reason they gave is the players asked for it. You can probably find the video at Bethesda's Twitch but I doubt anyone is interested in finding it for you.
You can always play in an unlocked campaign.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
A. There's only one No CP campaign, and the relative popularity didn't change from faction-locked to unlocked. Its not like there's a second option for No CP players, unlike CP players. Anyone who wants to play No CP is stuck in that campaign and stuck with whatever ruleset ZOS chose.
B. Ah, yes, even though everyone got dropped from all the campaigns and given the choice between the two rulesets, somehow CP PVPers are just too dumb to look through the two different CP options to figure out whether they'd rather play the alliance locked or standard campaign.7 -
Nanfoodle✭✭✭✭✭It comes from the DAoC days. Back then people had a sense of pride for the faction they rolled with. The PvP was very personal and was some of the best PvP because of it. In ESO many just reroll a char for the winning side.1 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
A. There's only one No CP campaign, and the relative popularity didn't change from faction-locked to unlocked. Its not like there's a second option for No CP players, unlike CP players. Anyone who wants to play No CP is stuck in that campaign and stuck with whatever ruleset ZOS chose.
B. Ah, yes, even though everyone got dropped from all the campaigns and given the choice between the two rulesets, somehow CP PVPers are just too dumb to look through the two different CP options to figure out whether they'd rather play the alliance locked or standard campaign.
Midyear mayhem. Numerous campaigns open. They were literally filling up from top to bottom. Even when they were under the same category. Most people don't give a damn about lock or unlock. They just want to PVP.
Look, we get it. Trolling and stuff are frustrating. We get it, u want a competitive campaign and even those in favor of unlocked campaigns most likely want competitive campaigns. However, alliance lock doesn't make campaigns competitive. The rules of the campaign itself and the end goal make a campaign competitive and as long as campaigns work like they do now, they will never be competitive.0 -
oXI_Viper_IXo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
A. There's only one No CP campaign, and the relative popularity didn't change from faction-locked to unlocked. Its not like there's a second option for No CP players, unlike CP players. Anyone who wants to play No CP is stuck in that campaign and stuck with whatever ruleset ZOS chose.
B. Ah, yes, even though everyone got dropped from all the campaigns and given the choice between the two rulesets, somehow CP PVPers are just too dumb to look through the two different CP options to figure out whether they'd rather play the alliance locked or standard campaign.
Midyear mayhem. Numerous campaigns open. They were literally filling up from top to bottom. Even when they were under the same category. Most people don't give a damn about lock or unlock. They just want to PVP.
Look, we get it. Trolling and stuff are frustrating. We get it, u want a competitive campaign and even those in favor of unlocked campaigns most likely want competitive campaigns. However, alliance lock doesn't make campaigns competitive. The rules of the campaign itself and the end goal make a campaign competitive and as long as campaigns work like they do now, they will never be competitive.
Midyear Mayhem is a bit different because a lot of people went to other campaigns just to pump out as much AP as possible and others went to trade emp to as many different guildies as they could.3 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
Faction hopping isn't cheating, get over it2 -
codierussell✭✭✭✭Does nobody remember the days when it wasn't alliance locked and you just got your friend to hop on a different toon so you could jump the keep walls and stealth take keeps?1
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TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Some people were deliberately switching to the winning alliance. Which led to the ugly, and un fun situation known as faction lock.
It's already rampant on the no cp campaign again. We push, make progress and everyone dog piles into one of the other alliance to undermine the progress. It's ridiculous.Edited by TheFM on March 7, 2020 8:28PM2 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Artorias24 wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »
Which ZOS only gradually reenabled for CP because players begged for it, and then those campaigns didn't get filled up. So it certainly reduced it, though not eliminated it.
It started out as a dead 7-day unlocked campaign. Then players complained "its not populated because its a 7 day".
So ZOS gave them a 30-day. Still dead. "Well, that's because you messed up how they were introduced!" (To be fair, ZOS totally did.)
So ZOS started all the campaigns over, brand new. Alliance locked is still the most populated. "That's because its listed first and most PVPers are too dumb to scroll through the list and pick the unlocked one they really should want to play on!"
As for ZOS' reasoning, here's the best explanation I've heard, from a Class Rep in a position to know: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5935829#Comment_5935829Joy_Division wrote: »I was at ZOS and heard from the devs why they are doing this.
It wasnt about transmute stones, it wasn;t about lag, it wasn;t about spreading population out, it wasn't about any of those ancillary reasons. It was about precisely what the people who have argued from locks form the past year have said: to stop people from abusing AP gains by switching factions.
Now, you may personally think the devs don't know what's going on, they are wrong, this is dumb, etc., but the reason they feel this way is because the overwhelming amount of feedback they have gotten has communicated that view. If they ignored these requests, they would be - correctly - accused of ignoring the community.
One thing I have become more cognizant of as a Rep is that ZOS does take a while to make changes. Part of it is because they debate with each other whether to do it. Part of it is because for each patch they have a theme they want to cater to. Part of it is because it takes a legit long time to make changes. but mostly because they are backlogged with so many things they want to do. It was probably a year a ago when Wheeler first intimated ZOS was thinking of doing something about faction locks. People who like this got all excited and then nothing. For months. Many thought they forgotten or ZOS put this on the backburner. Both those who wanted it never stopped making threads, never stopped arguing why it would be a good idea, which only fortified a decision ZOS was leaning a long time ago.
And this reason just gets countered by other 30 days Campaign that are unlocked and free to farm AP. Even more likely to be farmed due to their low population and you can flip the map blue and red without many players resisting. This would be much harder on a full campaign.
I can tell you dont really know what are talking about ill summerise for you so you can understand.
Main campaign, full pop, alliance locked to make it more serious and prevent trolling/flipping/farming.
Every other campaign, doesnt matter if its faction locked as its 1 bar pop not enough people to farm and they would log off if they were getting farmed, cant farm nothin!, nobody cares who is emp so flipping of map to get emp is meaningless when nobody is there to fight.
Currently you have a choice, play faction lock or dont, if you wanna play with your buddies on faction lock grind a char up takes 1 day, play on any faction you want and main that for a month.0 -
Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
A. There's only one No CP campaign, and the relative popularity didn't change from faction-locked to unlocked. Its not like there's a second option for No CP players, unlike CP players. Anyone who wants to play No CP is stuck in that campaign and stuck with whatever ruleset ZOS chose.
B. Ah, yes, even though everyone got dropped from all the campaigns and given the choice between the two rulesets, somehow CP PVPers are just too dumb to look through the two different CP options to figure out whether they'd rather play the alliance locked or standard campaign.
A: Yes that's my point.
B: Yes, you are indeed correct.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Some people were deliberately switching to the winning alliance. Which led to the ugly, and un fun situation known as faction lock.
It's already rampant on the no cp campaign again. We push, male progress and everyone dog piles into one of the other alliance to undermine the progress. It's ridiculous.
As if nightcapping didn't accomplish the same thing the last 5 years........1 -
BackStabeth✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »I dont see why they put it.
Prevent trolling? Or easy AP farm? Faction "Hopper"?
Is there an official Statement from ZOS why they put faction lock? Why its only on one CP campaign now?
It's another example of game mechanics driven by over monetization...
It's so you buy the "Any Race Any Alliance" bundle for 2k crowns.
If it doesn't make sense, if it frustrates you, if it seems like ZoS developers did something wrong and it shouldn't be in the game they probably did it to make money.
Nerf Iceheart when there was no good reason to do so, well that's so you buy the new DLC and/or pay for ESO+ to get the new set that Iceheart is really competing against, otherwise why would you want the new set when you can get Iceheart.
Irritated that it takes so long to raise your mount speed? Irritated that the distance to where you need to go is so far away, and you have to run around mountains? Wonder why a wayshrine isn't closer to where you are going or why they cost gold to use outside of going wayshrine to wayshrine? So you buy the boosters from the crown store.
Irritated that you have to do the shards for every character you make, and wonder why they allow you so many? So you buy to unlock them from the crown store.
It's all done because ZoS are trying to squeeze every penny out of you, that you spend for entertainment or games. If they can get you to invest enough, you will never leave because you have too much invested you will never get back. Then they create situations where the gear you got, that you thought would be end game or good enough for at least a length of time is nerfed so you have to buy even more DLC, etc etc etc.
This is what happens when corporations are only morally obligated to make more profit, instead of catering to their customers.
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TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Some people were deliberately switching to the winning alliance. Which led to the ugly, and un fun situation known as faction lock.
It's already rampant on the no cp campaign again. We push, male progress and everyone dog piles into one of the other alliance to undermine the progress. It's ridiculous.
As if nightcapping didn't accomplish the same thing the last 5 years........
Its even worse now. Now people dogpile into the nightcapping factions.0 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Some people were deliberately switching to the winning alliance. Which led to the ugly, and un fun situation known as faction lock.
It's already rampant on the no cp campaign again. We push, male progress and everyone dog piles into one of the other alliance to undermine the progress. It's ridiculous.
As if nightcapping didn't accomplish the same thing the last 5 years........
Its even worse now. Now people dogpile into the nightcapping factions.
No such thing as night capping. One person's bed time is another person's primetime. Dont want your keeps taken and precious Npcs killed while you go to bed? Best stay up and defend it.4 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
You are either in denial of stretching pretty wildly there. It's basically suggesting that the majority of PvPers are troglodytes that can't read and just grunt and button smash to get into Cyrodiil...
I mean common. People can read.
If the majority wanted unlocked they could, in one month vote with their feet and switch the balance.
CP LOCKED is the main campaign across the board, without question..
As for your theory on noCP you haven't listed region or platform, as noCP on Xbox is pretty quite camp regardless and those that did come back to it are not that happy about the thought of boosting coming back to it. As quiet camps are where you see the nonsense happen..
Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach4 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
Faction hopping isn't cheating, get over it
I didnt say it was.
I said people can use it to cheat. Not saying all do, but some do. And there's not you can do it about. The few ruin it for the many.
Don't hate pro lock people like me. Hate faction hoppers that do nefarious shady shiz as it's their fault people like me are pro lock..
Any way i'm quite over it thanks, locks more popular. 9 months later and most popular campaign is still locked..
Personally I'd prefer noCP locked and 7 day back and locked as I don't care for the Zerg fest that the main camp always is. But just glad the numbers are clear on what's preferred by the majority. Which is minimise the way folks can cheatXbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach3 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭StormeReigns wrote: »Some people were deliberately switching to the winning alliance. Which led to the ugly, and un fun situation known as faction lock.
It's already rampant on the no cp campaign again. We push, male progress and everyone dog piles into one of the other alliance to undermine the progress. It's ridiculous.
As if nightcapping didn't accomplish the same thing the last 5 years........
Its even worse now. Now people dogpile into the nightcapping factions.
No such thing as night capping. One person's bed time is another person's primetime. Dont want your keeps taken and precious Npcs killed while you go to bed? Best stay up and defend it.
xD Just because they put AUS or NZ in their name after people got on them for capping at night, doesnt mean they are from there. Most ppl capping off hours on PCEU are from france, germany and various eastern european countries.0 -
Rikumaru✭✭✭✭✭
✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
You are either in denial of stretching pretty wildly there. It's basically suggesting that the majority of PvPers are troglodytes that can't read and just grunt and button smash to get into Cyrodiil...
I mean common. People can read.
If the majority wanted unlocked they could, in one month vote with their feet and switch the balance.
CP LOCKED is the main campaign across the board, without question..
As for your theory on noCP you haven't listed region or platform, as noCP on Xbox is pretty quite camp regardless and those that did come back to it are not that happy about the thought of boosting coming back to it. As quiet camps are where you see the nonsense happen..
So your claiming being listed first in the campaign list isn't a factor? Then you wouldn't care if they swapped faction locked campaigns to last and reset everyones home campaign right? Cause I'm totally down with that.
Also this is PC EU where no-cp is hugely popular, to the point of where I'm not actually sure which is more popular based on population bars when I log in everyday.Edited by Rikumaru on March 7, 2020 8:49PMOverload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.1 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭...StormeReigns wrote: »Some people were deliberately switching to the winning alliance. Which led to the ugly, and un fun situation known as faction lock.
It's already rampant on the no cp campaign again. We push, male progress and everyone dog piles into one of the other alliance to undermine the progress. It's ridiculous.
As if nightcapping didn't accomplish the same thing the last 5 years........
Its even worse now. Now people dogpile into the nightcapping factions.
No such thing as night capping. One person's bed time is another person's primetime. Dont want your keeps taken and precious Npcs killed while you go to bed? Best stay up and defend it.
xD Just because they put AUS or NZ in their name after people got on them for capping at night, doesnt mean they are from there. Most ppl capping off hours on PCEU are from france, germany and various eastern european countries.
Graveyard (3rd shift) workers would like a word with you. Last I recall, working grave / 3rd shift is a global thing, not just NA, Aussie/Kiwi. So...
Again, night capping isnt a thing, and your bed time is someone's primetime.4 -
oXI_Viper_IXo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
You are either in denial of stretching pretty wildly there. It's basically suggesting that the majority of PvPers are troglodytes that can't read and just grunt and button smash to get into Cyrodiil...
I mean common. People can read.
If the majority wanted unlocked they could, in one month vote with their feet and switch the balance.
CP LOCKED is the main campaign across the board, without question..
As for your theory on noCP you haven't listed region or platform, as noCP on Xbox is pretty quite camp regardless and those that did come back to it are not that happy about the thought of boosting coming back to it. As quiet camps are where you see the nonsense happen..
It's funny to me how a lot of the anti faction lock crowd can't fathom why other people prefer locks. They often resort to insults like "faction loyalist RPers" and convince themselves that there is no possible way anyone could actually prefer faction locks.
When presented with overwhelming evidence (the fact that locked campaign is way more popular) they pull out the desperate arguments like "oh, that's just because it's listed first."
I prefer faction locks, but I totally get why some people don't. Why is it so hard for them to understand why we like it?5 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
No CP player here. I would prefer the campaign to be locked, and I hope ZOS reconsiders it, but I play no-CP, so I have no choice but go to an unlocked campaign.The Moot Councillor2 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZoS didnt like how easy it was to game farming telvar. One could get well over 300 telvar from just farming to 100,000 AP on 3 toons in a month.0 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
You are either in denial of stretching pretty wildly there. It's basically suggesting that the majority of PvPers are troglodytes that can't read and just grunt and button smash to get into Cyrodiil...
I mean common. People can read.
If the majority wanted unlocked they could, in one month vote with their feet and switch the balance.
CP LOCKED is the main campaign across the board, without question..
As for your theory on noCP you haven't listed region or platform, as noCP on Xbox is pretty quite camp regardless and those that did come back to it are not that happy about the thought of boosting coming back to it. As quiet camps are where you see the nonsense happen..
No, that's just how u spin it to create a strawman argument. What he is suggesting is that people don't give a crap about lock or unlock and most people may not even know what alliance lock means. They don't read forums or patch notes or staff. They just play. They open the tab, click the first they see and play. That's what he is suggesting.1 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭oXI_Viper_IXo wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »
It's called choice
People got fed up of people cheating by faction hopping.
ZOS turned it on..
People moaned that they prefer to flip flop about and play with friends do offered a non lock campaign
People remained in locked proving it's more popular.
Boom
The reason it's more popular is literally only because it's 1st in the campaign selection list. No-cp non locked at the moment is just as popular as locked CP campaign, if not more popular which shouldn't be the case by your "reasoning".
You are either in denial of stretching pretty wildly there. It's basically suggesting that the majority of PvPers are troglodytes that can't read and just grunt and button smash to get into Cyrodiil...
I mean common. People can read.
If the majority wanted unlocked they could, in one month vote with their feet and switch the balance.
CP LOCKED is the main campaign across the board, without question..
As for your theory on noCP you haven't listed region or platform, as noCP on Xbox is pretty quite camp regardless and those that did come back to it are not that happy about the thought of boosting coming back to it. As quiet camps are where you see the nonsense happen..
It's funny to me how a lot of the anti faction lock crowd can't fathom why other people prefer locks. They often resort to insults like "faction loyalist RPers" and convince themselves that there is no possible way anyone could actually prefer faction locks.
When presented with overwhelming evidence (the fact that locked campaign is way more popular) they pull out the desperate arguments like "oh, that's just because it's listed first."
I prefer faction locks, but I totally get why some people don't. Why is it so hard for them to understand why we like it?
I don't give a crap about lock or unlock but what evidence exactly. The main campaign was always the first and it was always the first filling up. No cp switching from unlock to lock to unlock essentially had very limited impact to its population.0