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I'm sorry my dps is too high ZOS but can I please clear VMA?

  • Raisin
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    J18696 wrote: »
    How about you think like 5 seconds ahead of time and move away from the platform before it breaks like everyone else

    This. Yes, it's good advice to kill the adds. Personally I just focus boss and get in some cleave damage. But it doesn't really matter because before she smashes the platform, she enrages and starts doing the animation for it. That is when you move. Whether adds are alive or not, and no matter how fast it happens, the mechanic is the same. You keep an eye on her/her health and move away. It has nothing to do with 'too early'. If you know it happens fast and that you burn her down fast, make sure to stand ready at the edge of the platform to shield and run. And if you're not running a shield... take out some damage to do it. :D
  • hackdrag0n
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    Sounds like you just need to learn how that round actually works. She doesn't have much health and most people will nuke her too fast if they don't understand the mechanics. You're not the first person to rage at vma either. Took me two hours to beat the ice round the first time through. Now I can one shot it. It's not broken, you just need to calm down and pay attention to what's going on and when she does it. Hint: it's health based.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    You literally cannot die from too much dps here, you probably rip because you ignore the adds or stay on the platform when the boss breaks it. If your dps is so high the burn phase on the final platform will be very easy.
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  • Grianasteri
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    dazee wrote: »
    Stage 5 of VMA is literally impossible if you have too much dps. if you accidentally get the giant even a tiny bit too low too early, you will not escape the insta kill platform shatter. GG ZOS. guess having high dps isnt a good thing in their eyes.

    FYI I went in straight to stage 5 at max gear durability and all my gear was broken by the time I quit. maybe I Can get a masters or BRP weapon since maelstrom ones arent accessible to people over a certain not so high dps threshold.

    This is a silly post. But I sympathise with the frustration.

    I experienced the same issue, and my dps is certainly not "high". I went and looked at some guides, the most useful of which was Alcast's for that round. That round is not a dps race, you cant just blast your way through all of maelstrom, some rounds require you to learn the mechanics and play them, shock horror.
  • Grianasteri
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    Gambino108 wrote: »
    Maybe you should think about finding yourself a competitive dummy parse guild, and leave the actual mechanic based gameplay to others.

    This made me laugh :p

    Smashed the "Awesome" button.
  • Danksta
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    Do nuke strats if your dps is that high.
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  • Morgul667
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    Maybe you can solo vtrials with that dps :/
  • thadjarvis
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    @dazee

    Were you able to try any suggestions yet? How did it go? Stuck now on some other aspect like the adds etc.?
  • Drdeath20
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    VMA is all about situational awareness. People have light attacked their way to flawless conqueror title.

    The problem isnt that you are over dps'ing the boss, the problem is that you are not putting yourself in a good position to compensate.

    A complete L2P issue.
  • MashmalloMan
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    If your DPS was as high as you claim, you would be able to delete the boss before he even has a chance to Hulk Smash. Get good. :D
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  • kylewwefan
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    In all my VMA fails, I never felt like my damage was too high? Lots of advice here! Hopefully by now you’ve figured it out and are well on the way to whatever it is you be looking for here!
  • IronWooshu
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    "I died ZOS so please change the entirety of the game for my self benefit

    Sincerely - the OP
  • ATreeGnome
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    dazee wrote: »
    Stage 5 of VMA is literally impossible if you have too much dps. if you accidentally get the giant even a tiny bit too low too early, you will not escape the insta kill platform shatter. GG ZOS. guess having high dps isnt a good thing in their eyes.

    FYI I went in straight to stage 5 at max gear durability and all my gear was broken by the time I quit. maybe I Can get a masters or BRP weapon since maelstrom ones arent accessible to people over a certain not so high dps threshold.

    You're not being punished for having high DPS, you're being punished for not doing mechanics. Literally the only thing you need to do is anticipate when the boss will hit the HP thresholds for breaking a platform and move a couple of seconds before it happens. I can assure you that many players have higher DPS than you and do not struggle with with this.

    If you eventually want to start doing endgame group content you will need to be able to deal with mechanics that are more complex and difficult than this, so I suggest you start putting in the practice now.

    If you just want to parse, get a target dummy.
  • Grandma
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    you strike me as someone who would push individual committee members during vhof triplets, or kill llothis 1 min before enrage right before a jump.

    the game isn't all just having "too much dps", but using the dps in the correct manner and actually paying attention.
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  • idk
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    VMA is all about situational awareness. People have light attacked their way to flawless conqueror title.

    The problem isnt that you are over dps'ing the boss, the problem is that you are not putting yourself in a good position to compensate.

    A complete L2P issue.

    OP acknowledged they are hitting the boss when they intend to hit the adds.

    You do have a good point. Top score runs are from players that do not hold dps back so I do not think this is an issue with OPs uber dps.
    Edited by idk on February 29, 2020 4:42AM
  • Arbit
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    Too high dps with an off meta build and no bow backbar? Maybe but honestly I don’t think so. OP uses greatsword and dual wield.
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  • Theignson
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    Stage 5 has to be done exactly right and if you dps too quickly you lose. Just read our awesome Joy Division's guide. You have to get to the proper island, when the boss is 45% or so, with the proper sigils left. If you end up on the wrong island you die. I recall when I did it the first time the third island was destroyed before I killed the boss, but with the proper sigils you can survive the extra ten seconds or so needed to finish the boss off.
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  • Beardimus
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    dazee wrote: »
    Stage 5 of VMA is literally impossible if you have too much dps. if you accidentally get the giant even a tiny bit too low too early, you will not escape the insta kill platform shatter. GG ZOS. guess having high dps isnt a good thing in their eyes.

    FYI I went in straight to stage 5 at max gear durability and all my gear was broken by the time I quit. maybe I Can get a masters or BRP weapon since maelstrom ones arent accessible to people over a certain not so high dps threshold.

    Yeah, so you need to learn the mechanics.

    Learn the health triggers, what happens when, it's pretty simple.
    Boss, Adds, Boss, Adds.

    Start on island one, get boss, kill adds, island two, kill ghosts, clear adds, boss, go island three, kill adds (sigils if you struggle) then DPS race on boss.

    I'm amazed of you DPS has gotten that high without the ability to read the mechanics enough to rage post here..

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  • Somers23
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    Sound queues? Big red aoe before he breaks it. To be honest the frost light attacks drive me nuts
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Somers23 wrote: »
    Sound queues? Big red aoe before he breaks it. To be honest the frost light attacks drive me nuts

    Yeah, multiple targets who spam 5-6k attacks at you after rather relaxing 1-4 stages.. just because why not :D I agree that ice matron is most tiresome boss in all VMA. Ice matron + mushrooms RNG - everything else can be cheezed by cautious play.
  • jaws343
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    Island 1: do one rotation in the boss. Then kite to island 2. Boss should be around 80% by the time you hit island 2.

    Island 2: kill adds wile waiting for boss and lay down aoe and drop ult when boss arries and move to island 3. Boss breaks island 2.

    Island 3: kill adds while waiting for boss to break island 2. Drop aoe on island 3 when boss arrives. Kite back to island 1 and single targeted boss as you kite. Boss should be at 45% health by the time you get to island 1. Boss breaks island 3.

    Island 1: kill adds while waiting for boss to arrive. When boss arrives ult dump and burn the boss.

    That is my approach to the fight. Works everytime.
  • TwiceBornStar
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    So basically, the problem is that you screwed up just a tiny smidge and now you have to try again? Hey, I'm sure it'll happen again from time to time! It's a game, isn't it? It's not as if the whole world depends on you completing these arenas flawlessly with 100% efficiency for 100% of your play time. Unless you're Borg. I think it's great to fail every now and then. I'd be bored stiff running immortal characters. But that's probably just me.
  • thorwyn
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    Out of interest.... how high is your DPS?
    And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
    And if there is no room upon the hill
    And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
    I'll see you on the dark side of the moon
  • troomar
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    There are two approaches to this arena:

    1) Slow, steady controlled DPS to the boss while clearing all the mobs around. Basically doing all the mechanics correctly. This is the most used approach people use and all guilds recommend.

    -> You failed at this approach because you weren't able to control your DPS -> You have to learn the mechanics of this round.

    2) Fast, second platform burn. You can burn the boss while he is on the second platform. This is used by score runners.

    -> You failed at this approach because your DPS was too low and you probably didn't do it correctly either -> You need more DPS.
    Yes.
  • Lord-Otto
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    I don't get the issue here. Last time I was in there, I nuked her on first platform and left that place early. Simple. By the time she stomped, I was already halfway to second plat. And there I killed her.
    I remember not killing her in three platforms a looong time ago, due to me being sloppy. I finished her in the water. You don't outright die there. It's just like with Skoria, heal up, keep DoTs up and be extra evasive. Sigil also helps. It's really not that hard mechanic-wise. It's just a mild dps check.
  • Aelorin
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    I can get your frustration. Round 5 is really really hard. I had to try many many times and even quit vma for a while because i had enough of it. Sometimes it is good to get a break and move on to something else for a while. My advice is to read guides and watch youtube guides and practice. There will be a time that you beat this stage.
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  • zvavi
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    It is obviously a learn to play issue
  • Rhorlak_Wulfmare
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    This thread made me lol
  • Alienoutlaw
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    round 5 is all about add management and getting the boss where he needs to be when he needs to be there, if as you say your hitting the boss not the add's then you clearly have not yet understood the add phase
  • MyPrist
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    To much dps, that it can not be reduced.
    OMG-we need new type of dps parces low dps mode !!!
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