How many people have actually stopped playing since U25?

Long_Distance · February 2020

Yes, I have completely stopped playing.

PunkAben wrote: »

Long_Distance wrote: »

I stopped completely after Tuesday. Crash after crash in Cyrodiil, even without any addon ons. I am not really interested in story line questing and PvE any more, so I wait untill they fix it or leave the game altogether.

If someone stop play the wont spend time for check or write at forum
The game concept is pretty good and i like the game.
I can get so pissed when i keep see bugs and error and i could write a long list for what need to be fixed and if i get payed for this i will !
How is it possible to release a version like update 25 with so many bugs and error ?
It is not possible to play in Cyrodiil without crash, i have a great ideas for some like this not happens in the future... Zenimax can make a a test server... wow it is a really great ideas, then we wont run into so much fails, bugs and error.
Zenimax have a test server... no way i dont belive the have a test server !
- If the have a test server the have resease a version 25 well knowing people will have trouble playing.
- Zenimax did make changes in last moment and it make the trouble.. naa i dont belive a company can be not so professionel

What should we do ?
Leave the game ? then we leave and did't look back and we did't read or write at the forum.
Why leave when we like the game even we get pissed about the self-taught software development.
I can cancel my payment ! It wont rock unless all people or almost all people cancel there eso+ but if we did i am sure Zenimax will take the problems serious.

Well I do check the forums from time to time and also my guild discords see if something has changed. I am still interested in the game. I am just not logging into the game any more because the things I am interested in aren't there any more.

I do think Zenimax is taking the performance + bug issues seriously. After all they announced a multi-stage long term plan to address them. At the moment though, I am inclined to believe that fixing these issues is beyond their capabilities.

MajThorax · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

Main reason is the addon chaos. I am a spoilt pc player 😂

Rave the Histborn · February 2020

TheFM wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

I'm playing the same or more.
Due to trials and real life i still haven't had the time to do the new dungeons yet.

This was a good patch. Sustain was improved (to where we said it should be last update). A bunch of sets were buffed or fixed.
The only negative was a slight nerf to iceheart which is honestly fine.

PvE is in the best place it's been in a while. Probably since update 21?

So, in a nut shell, you can shove your biased poll.

And your response wasnt bias? You havent even tested other parts of the game and are saying its good.

The poll absolutely is biased. It completely and intentionally omits anyone that doesn't PvP and/or have a favorable view the patch.

Let's be realistic for a moment, this patch hit Cyrodiil the hardest. People who do not play there likely have no clue except what they see here or in guild, discord, or zone chat. That problem deserves attention, but not this kind.

Sure it is, but it doesnt change the fact that the response was bias too. You cannot say " the patch is fine " and then also say " I havent tried pvp " .

LMAO sure you can and it does change the fact that the response was bias too because if the initial vote wasn't biased his answer didn't immediately have to be biased just by going against it.

mocap wrote: »

Comletely stopped playing overland quests since Murkmire, cuz of idiotic difficulty.
Stopped playing Cyro PvP cuz of crashes.
Stopped playing dungeons cuz it's very hard to find a group as DPS.
Drastically reduced my playtime as tank cuz of super clunky new block/skip stuff

Currently im just a daily crafting bot, waiting for some responce from ZOS.

1) How is the difficulty "idiotic"? Overland isn't supposed to be difficult so
2) PVP crashed tons before the patch, not really a reason to quit
3) It always will be. Everyone is a DPS, you can't expect insta-queues if that's what you wanna roll with. Try a guild group or a couple friends
4) Even with the skill delays I've seen the new block stuff is better because it actually works. I'm not blocking *** and having the game not recognize it anymore

Maybe it's time for a break? I took one last year for awhile and It was great and really refreshed the parts of the game I was burnt out on

daemonios · February 2020

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

1) How is the difficulty "idiotic"? Overland isn't supposed to be difficult so

This is highly debatable. At launch VR zones were in fact difficult to solo if you went in not caring about what you pulled and how you were set up. Craglorn launched as a seriously difficult zone to solo, with parts that were impossible to do so by design. Fighters and Mages guild quests were much harder at launch (remember Doshia?) and impossible to group for. World bosses and dolmens could be soloed only by very good players, and it took a lot of kiting and patience to wear them down without dying. I, for one, miss having at least a semblance of a challenge in overland zones.

Huyen · February 2020

Yes, I have completely stopped playing.

I stopped when they announced Skyrim. Will he a huge let down anyway.

mocap · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

1) How is the difficulty "idiotic"? Overland isn't supposed to be difficult so

who said that? You?

2) PVP crashed tons before the patch, not really a reason to quit

doens't have a single crash before U25. Had disconnects, yes, but not error crashes.

3) It always will be. Everyone is a DPS, you can't expect insta-queues if that's what you wanna roll with. Try a guild group or a couple friends

time to search a group as DD has been raised to 25+ minutes for me over last year. Before it was about 15-20 minutes.

4) Even with the skill delays I've seen the new block stuff is better because it actually works.

for me, new block systems feels like im playing with huge ping.

Though i agree about taking a break, which I already do, apart from daily writs. Hope ZOS will fix something during that time.

Rave the Histborn · February 2020

daemonios wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

1) How is the difficulty "idiotic"? Overland isn't supposed to be difficult so

This is highly debatable. At launch VR zones were in fact difficult to solo if you went in not caring about what you pulled and how you were set up. Craglorn launched as a seriously difficult zone to solo, with parts that were impossible to do so by design. Fighters and Mages guild quests were much harder at launch (remember Doshia?) and impossible to group for. World bosses and dolmens could be soloed only by very good players, and it took a lot of kiting and patience to wear them down without dying. I, for one, miss having at least a semblance of a challenge in overland zones.

There is no debate, it is meant to be fluff in every MMO because there is more content the developers want you to sink your time into.

Craglorn launched as a group content zone not a solo zone so of course it was harder. The same with VR zones, they are intentionally made harder due to the VR rank. They're not regular overland zones to compare it to. Stonefalls is as easy now as it was when the game launched.

DId we play the same game? World bosses/Dolmens were easier to solo back in those days

The only real change was Doshia and I mean even then she's not "overland" content but the challenge wasn't that she was really that hard. Everyone forgets that she is a boss with mechanics 2 quests into the fighters guild, a time when most players, especially first time players still haven't fully grasped every part of the combat system and you didn't have anyone to help you out with it. If Doshia wasn't a boss you encoutnered at lvl 10-15 and she was someone you fought around say lvl 45 and you had a deeper understanding of mechanics she wouldn't be mentioned at all.

Rave the Histborn · February 2020

mocap wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

1) How is the difficulty "idiotic"? Overland isn't supposed to be difficult so

who said that? You?

2) PVP crashed tons before the patch, not really a reason to quit

doens't have a single crash before U25. Had disconnects, yes, but not error crashes.

3) It always will be. Everyone is a DPS, you can't expect insta-queues if that's what you wanna roll with. Try a guild group or a couple friends

time to search a group as DD has been raised to 25+ minutes for me over last year. Before it was about 15-20 minutes.

4) Even with the skill delays I've seen the new block stuff is better because it actually works.

for me, new block systems feels like im playing with huge ping.

Though i agree about taking a break, which I already do, apart from daily writs. Hope ZOS will fix something during that time.

1) Every MMO ever. Why would they want you wasting time in overland content XD when they have dungeons, DLC content, PVP, trials, housing they'd rather have you sinking your time (and money) into.

2) I hate to break it to you chief but yes, Cyrodiil did cause major crashes long before U25

3) And? You can still form your own group in zone, with guildies, friends, etc. You don't have to wait around in queue

4) That's just the game in general atm. There's a delay on all skills and it's prob got a lot more to do with the 6 day old patch than the block system.

mocap · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

1) Every MMO ever. Why would they want you wasting time in overland content XD when they have dungeons, DLC content, PVP, trials, housing they'd rather have you sinking your time (and money) into.

2) I hate to break it to you chief but yes, Cyrodiil did cause major crashes long before U25

3) And? You can still form your own group in zone, with guildies, friends, etc. You don't have to wait around in queue

1) ZOS must do every content enjoyable for everyone, so many players can sink money and time in every type of content, not just repeatable dungeons.

2) No, Cyrodiil didn't have at least that much of crashes. I didn't saw even a single post on the forum about it, other than huge ping and lags. At least in General Discussion section.

3) Not an answer for me. It seems players sick of all that dungeons and go for other content. It can explain why im getting longer and longer queue times over last year.

RANKK7 · February 2020

Yes, I have completely stopped playing.

Left the game many months ago, checked the forum recently to find out they were nerfing Iceheart, LOL. I said: Good, glad I stopped playing, let's keep it that away. ZOS being ZOS. Nothing new here, move along.

Then this update came out and I'm in contact with some players (very few) who still play, I've heard about the crashing mess it is now, checked the forums. This blows so much, zos, is unbelievable.

Long_Distance wrote: »

Well I do check the forums from time to time and also my guild discords see if something has changed. I am still interested in the game. I am just not logging into the game any more because the things I am interested in aren't there any more.

I do think Zenimax is taking the performance + bug issues seriously. After all they announced a multi-stage long term plan to address them. At the moment though, I am inclined to believe that fixing these issues is beyond their capabilities.

Same.

Lilly_Elessa · February 2020

Why doesn't this poll have a "No, I play the same or more" option? Cyrodiil might be unplayable, but PvE is, eh, minorly inconvenienced? Stuff's not exactly fixed, but it's also basically not worse either. And hey! PvE has new content! The new dungeons are pretty fantastic!

Aurielle · February 2020

I drastically reduced my playtime six months ago, and stopped playing/uninstalled three months ago — that’s how long the game has been unplayable in Cyrodiil on PS4.

wolfbone · February 2020

I've reduced my playtime, partially because of how bad the glitches and lag that started since elsweyr dropped. something was seriously wrong with it, because as ps4 player, I had next to no issues till it released on ps4, and now I dont even want to try them because if it's still the laggy disconnecting hot mess it was, there's no point because I'll just b a let down for the whole team.

Aurielle · February 2020

wolfbone wrote: »

I've reduced my playtime, partially because of how bad the glitches and lag that started since elsweyr dropped. something was seriously wrong with it, because as ps4 player, I had next to no issues till it released on ps4, and now I dont even want to try them because if it's still the laggy disconnecting hot mess it was, there's no point because I'll just b a let down for the whole team.

Yup, Elsweyr was the beginning of the end on PS4. Dragonhold completely killed it. Really sad to see all that time, effort, and money go down the drain over two bad updates.

It’s almost like the devs don’t test updates on actual consoles before they release them to console players... oh wait.

TheFM · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

PunkAben wrote: »

Long_Distance wrote: »

I stopped completely after Tuesday. Crash after crash in Cyrodiil, even without any addon ons. I am not really interested in story line questing and PvE any more, so I wait untill they fix it or leave the game altogether.

If someone stop play the wont spend time for check or write at forum
The game concept is pretty good and i like the game.
I can get so pissed when i keep see bugs and error and i could write a long list for what need to be fixed and if i get payed for this i will !
How is it possible to release a version like update 25 with so many bugs and error ?
It is not possible to play in Cyrodiil without crash, i have a great ideas for some like this not happens in the future... Zenimax can make a a test server... wow it is a really great ideas, then we wont run into so much fails, bugs and error.
Zenimax have a test server... no way i dont belive the have a test server !
- If the have a test server the have resease a version 25 well knowing people will have trouble playing.
- Zenimax did make changes in last moment and it make the trouble.. naa i dont belive a company can be not so professionel

What should we do ?
Leave the game ? then we leave and did't look back and we did't read or write at the forum.
Why leave when we like the game even we get pissed about the self-taught software development.
I can cancel my payment ! It wont rock unless all people or almost all people cancel there eso+ but if we did i am sure Zenimax will take the problems serious.

Lol, so the poll is bias, and you don't want anyone to come in and support the op? Lol. So no one is allowed to show their dismay at the patch? Just lol

TheFM · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

I'm playing the same or more.
Due to trials and real life i still haven't had the time to do the new dungeons yet.

This was a good patch. Sustain was improved (to where we said it should be last update). A bunch of sets were buffed or fixed.
The only negative was a slight nerf to iceheart which is honestly fine.

PvE is in the best place it's been in a while. Probably since update 21?

So, in a nut shell, you can shove your biased poll.

And your response wasnt bias? You havent even tested other parts of the game and are saying its good.

The poll absolutely is biased. It completely and intentionally omits anyone that doesn't PvP and/or have a favorable view the patch.

Let's be realistic for a moment, this patch hit Cyrodiil the hardest. People who do not play there likely have no clue except what they see here or in guild, discord, or zone chat. That problem deserves attention, but not this kind.

Sure it is, but it doesnt change the fact that the response was bias too. You cannot say " the patch is fine " and then also say " I havent tried pvp " .

LMAO sure you can and it does change the fact that the response was bias too because if the initial vote wasn't biased his answer didn't immediately have to be biased just by going against it.

mocap wrote: »

Comletely stopped playing overland quests since Murkmire, cuz of idiotic difficulty.
Stopped playing Cyro PvP cuz of crashes.
Stopped playing dungeons cuz it's very hard to find a group as DPS.
Drastically reduced my playtime as tank cuz of super clunky new block/skip stuff

Currently im just a daily crafting bot, waiting for some responce from ZOS.

1) How is the difficulty "idiotic"? Overland isn't supposed to be difficult so
2) PVP crashed tons before the patch, not really a reason to quit
3) It always will be. Everyone is a DPS, you can't expect insta-queues if that's what you wanna roll with. Try a guild group or a couple friends
4) Even with the skill delays I've seen the new block stuff is better because it actually works. I'm not blocking *** and having the game not recognize it anymore

Maybe it's time for a break? I took one last year for awhile and It was great and really refreshed the parts of the game I was burnt out on

It crashed every once in a while, not ever five minutes for no good reason. Get real.

logarifmik · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

But not because of the patch. I just play this way in the game, one even can sporadically.

Also, I'm waiting for my friend to do those new dungeons together in March.

MakeMeUhSamich · February 2020

I have drastically reduced my playtime.

U24 was the last straw for Samich. Cancelled the sub I’d had since shortly after console launch. Sustain/shield nerfs and shoddy performance finally ran me off.

Rave the Histborn · February 2020

mocap wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

1) Every MMO ever. Why would they want you wasting time in overland content XD when they have dungeons, DLC content, PVP, trials, housing they'd rather have you sinking your time (and money) into.

2) I hate to break it to you chief but yes, Cyrodiil did cause major crashes long before U25

3) And? You can still form your own group in zone, with guildies, friends, etc. You don't have to wait around in queue

1) ZOS must do every content enjoyable for everyone, so many players can sink money and time in every type of content, not just repeatable dungeons.

2) No, Cyrodiil didn't have at least that much of crashes. I didn't saw even a single post on the forum about it, other than huge ping and lags. At least in General Discussion section.

3) Not an answer for me. It seems players sick of all that dungeons and go for other content. It can explain why im getting longer and longer queue times over last year.

1) Not overland.

3) Well then enjoy what you think are lower queue times because the revamp dungeon queue eventually worked and most of the queue times are much shorter

mikemacon · February 2020

Biased poll is biased.

MashmalloMan · February 2020

Bad poll, doesn't prove anything and just pushes a negative narrative so what's the point of the poll in the first place? Doesn't seem like your trying to figure out anything if you don't give people proper options.

Game runs much smoother, server is awful though. I've never experienced so many lag spikes where nothing happens for 4s at a time in every aspect of the game, PvE and PvP. I can only hope that this is a biproduct of people downloading the game again.

ZOS_FalcoYamaoka · February 2020

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