There are only 4 campaigns total... Does it really matter what order they are in? You can see all of them and their descriptions on one page...

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Why does it matter?

The majority of players would choose the Alliance-locked campaign even if it was at the bottom of the list ... because Alliance-locked is what players prefer.

Alliance lock is what players prefer? LMAO. Faction lock is destroying the PvP population. Why should I not be allowed to play EP, DC and AD? This system is pointless, it adds nothing to Cyrodiil.

Vivec/Kaal/whatever is the ONLY active CP campaign and it continues to be alliance locked when the patch notes clearly stated that the new unlocked campaign would be listed first.

Dyride wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Why does it matter?

The majority of players would choose the Alliance-locked campaign even if it was at the bottom of the list ... because Alliance-locked is what players prefer.

No there are tons of players who complain everyday about Faction locks. It was a poorly thought out plan, and has driven the PVP population even lower over the past year.

If the majority want an unlocked campaign they have one. Position on a list shouldn't matter.

I play one toon on the locked and the rest on the unlocked. The locked is always more populated, but the unlocked still has decent pop sometimes. Xb1, could be different on other platforms.

Point is, for CP players there is a choice. I'm still frustrated for no-cp players that there isn't, but that's the only poorly implemented aspect.

Lets see , when they gave people back the unlocked cp campaign, the big complaint was that they didn't reset the other ones at the same time. Now they did that for you, forcing every single person to re home whatever their preferred campaign is and yet, people still aren't happy. There's literally, one, i repeat ONE locked campaign and somehow that's ruining PvP for everyone, um, yeah, I think not. People just don't want to admit that maybe, just maybe, more people might actually enjoy the lock than you want to believe do.

x48rph wrote: »

Lets see , when they gave people back the unlocked cp campaign, the big complaint was that they didn't reset the other ones at the same time. Now they did that for you, forcing every single person to re home whatever their preferred campaign is and yet, people still aren't happy. There's literally, one, i repeat ONE locked campaign and somehow that's ruining PvP for everyone, um, yeah, I think not. People just don't want to admit that maybe, just maybe, more people might actually enjoy the lock than you want to believe do.

No one cares when whether or not the campaigns reset at the same time lmfao.

There is one locked campaign now, yes, but that one locked campaign happens to be the most active and most played. How many people do you see play on Laat? On PC-EU I rarely see any faction pass 2 bars (and that's deep into prime time on a Friday/Weekend). I don't care about the campaign, but I, and many many others, want to play characters on other factions. How is that so hard for people who support the locks to understand?

L_Nici wrote: »

Because that campaign always was 4th, its Shor, Laatvulon, Blackreach, it was always there, but all the Vivec players didn't get that and instead complained that there would be none.

What does that matter??? The patch notes clearly show that the new "main" campaign will be unlocked and yet it is not? Why does No-CP get to have their active and main campaign unlocked yet CP is shafted?

It is not. Blackreach is with CP enabled. Its a 30 day CP non alliance locked campaign. Like it always was.

Seriously you act like that campaign didn't exist before...sure as Shor it had only 7 days, but since Laatvulon it is like Vivec just without the lock, still players remained on Vivec and cried they would be locked.

Banana wrote: »

Excellent. A no locked option

My thoughts exactly. We can finally play with friends and have cleaner zone chats instead of the fervor tinfoil-hatted arguments clogging up the place.

But anyone who does know the ingame campaign order, could tell that Vivec would remain locked and Laatvulon remained unlocked. Its just how it is and always was. All you Vivec players always had the option to play unlocked, still you remained on the locked one and complained about it being locked, what does it matter in which order they stand? The CP unlocked campaign always was 4th, it was always there, you could have played there whenever you please, still you took the locked and with that the locked stayed on place 1, because the most people play it.

Did everyone get their end of campaign rewards as we were supposed to as the campaigns were replaced with these new ones. Having enough problems with in game mail so wondering whether it was just me who didn't get the rewards through

Campaign locked is the best.

Okay guys. There are a lot more important things going on in game other than the order in which a campaign is listed. If you sincerely think where they are listed will make that big of a difference, you really should stop and think. If people are stupid enough to not look at what they are signing up for, no matter where it's listed, then they maybe deserve to get locked into something. Let's discuss things a bit more important to the game play like the stability of the game in cyro. The program has stopped responding several times for me already this morning. Hoping it is something easily fixable for them.

L_Nici wrote: »

But anyone who does know the campaign order, could tell that Vivec would remain locked and Laatvulon remained unlocked. Its just how it is and always was. All you Vivec players always had the option to play unlocked, still you remained on the locked one and complained about it being locked, what does it matter in which order they stand? The CP unlocked campaign always was 4th, it was always there, you could have played there whenever you please, still you took the locked.

Why would "we Vivec players" come play on Laat when it is no where near as actively played as Vivec? The campaign is completely dead outside of a few PvDoor guilds that run full healbot/tank groups. The order matters because it determines which campaign will be the most active. Vast majority of pugs literally just home to the first campaign they see and play there, which, news flash, is not Laat. This patch should have been ZoS' chance to offer the main unlocked campaign back to Cyrodiil.