[Suggestion] Ald Velothi Harbor house needs a room downstairs.

Sotha_Sil · February 2020

The stairs go to... nothing. The house needs at least one room downstairs and if possible 2. Take example of the Resting Kwama in Gnisis for example.

I am asking ZOS to change this.

Kittytravel · February 2020

I'd honestly prefer a new house like the one in Gnisis personally, the large open area entrance with the downstairs rooms rather than changing Ald Velothi.

Many of us purchased and built Ald Velothi already and to have the added room downstairs would require us to change a good deal of our homes likely enough.

Sotha_Sil · February 2020

You know they will never add new Morrowind houses but they would consider a few tweaks to existing homes, if people want it.

Salix_alba · February 2020

I am also for adding space in the basement It might entice me to buy it cause right now its just missing something
but I would rather it be flowing water in the courtyard added.

I don't see how the basement being extended would require a good deal of change unless you are referring to having already filled the house to the max on the furniture budget.

Kittytravel · February 2020

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

You know they will never add new Morrowind houses but they would consider a few tweaks to existing homes, if people want it.

I mean they are going back and adding a new Orsinium house with Forgemaster Falls; I wouldn't discount them going back to Morrowind at this point. Also I wouldn't call adding a new room a "tweak" personally.

Salix_alba wrote: »

I don't see how the basement being extended would require a good deal of change unless you are referring to having already filled the house to the max on the furniture budget.

I'm more referring to possible issues that might occur by opening that space up; perhaps furniture disappearing down there or getting accidentally removed during the server changeover; I also think people that ignored that space would now want to review their entire Ald Velothi for the new change.

Personally I think a new house is just a better thing to ask for over a change to existing ones but that's just me.

Sotha_Sil · February 2020

Kittytravel wrote: »

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

You know they will never add new Morrowind houses but they would consider a few tweaks to existing homes, if people want it.

I mean they are going back and adding a new Orsinium house with Forgemaster Falls; I wouldn't discount them going back to Morrowind at this point. Also I wouldn't call adding a new room a "tweak" personally.

Personally I think a new house is just a better thing to ask for over a change to existing ones but that's just me.

Good point.

As long as we get more Morrowind houses, I don't care if Ald Velothi stays as it is. ZOS give us more houses in Vvardenfell !!

Jayne_Doe · February 2020

Kittytravel wrote: »

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

You know they will never add new Morrowind houses but they would consider a few tweaks to existing homes, if people want it.

I mean they are going back and adding a new Orsinium house with Forgemaster Falls; I wouldn't discount them going back to Morrowind at this point. Also I wouldn't call adding a new room a "tweak" personally.

Salix_alba wrote: »

I don't see how the basement being extended would require a good deal of change unless you are referring to having already filled the house to the max on the furniture budget.

I'm more referring to possible issues that might occur by opening that space up; perhaps furniture disappearing down there or getting accidentally removed during the server changeover; I also think people that ignored that space would now want to review their entire Ald Velothi for the new change.

Personally I think a new house is just a better thing to ask for over a change to existing ones but that's just me.

I'd have to rework things if they added a room or two down there since the space would open up more possibilities for decorating. I'm at max 400 slots as it is, so adding more space would mean having bare rooms if I don't rework the entire house to free up slots for a basement. Plus, I think there is the possibility for items to go missing if the space is reworked. If it's just enlarged to a bigger space, then perhaps not, but if two rooms, then perhaps a wall would be placed where furnishings currently are placed.

I'd prefer them not to rework existing houses other than to fix graphical issues or raise "ceilings" so that players could add lofts/2nd floors in some houses if they wanted.

I'm hopeful that we'll see more houses in existing DLC areas, including the chapters/DLC which already came with houses. As already mentioned, we're getting a second home in Wrothgar - hopefully a townhouse in Orsinium is on the horizon! As for Morrowind, I'd love a small home or apartment in Balmora.

Tigerseye · February 2020

It's bigger than it looks...

In fact, it's the perfect size for a crafting and storage area:

However, I do like the idea of them offering extensions, for existing houses, with additional slots included, in general.

For example, I would like to add a room to the upper floor of the tower of the Snow Globe (there are windows outside that indicate there should be one there), with an extra slot allowance of 100 (bringing it to 700 slots, in total).

I would be happy to consider paying Crowns for it (within reason!), as it was a Crown-only house.

Going by the original Crown price of the house, a medium/large room extension, with 100 extra slots, would be 700 Crowns.

Tigerseye · February 2020

Kittytravel wrote: »

I'd honestly prefer a new house like the one in Gnisis personally, the large open area entrance with the downstairs rooms rather than changing Ald Velothi.

Many of us purchased and built Ald Velothi already and to have the added room downstairs would require us to change a good deal of our homes likely enough.

What if they gave us the option to buy an extension (with some added slots) and if we didn't buy it, nothing would change?

Kittytravel · February 2020

Tigerseye wrote: »

Kittytravel wrote: »

I'd honestly prefer a new house like the one in Gnisis personally, the large open area entrance with the downstairs rooms rather than changing Ald Velothi.

Many of us purchased and built Ald Velothi already and to have the added room downstairs would require us to change a good deal of our homes likely enough.

What if they gave us the option to buy an extension (with some added slots) and if we didn't buy it, nothing would change?

I'm not against it though I'd far prefer to see them adding more helpful things to housing than something so niche I feel only a few people would use it with the current constraints on furnishing limits as it stands. Adding a feature like that would only further aggravate that reoccurring gripe would it not?

Instead they could add better custom building materials or more diverse interiors mimicking the myriad of ones we've seen in the game already. Just my opinion though.

Tigerseye · February 2020

Kittytravel wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Kittytravel wrote: »

I'd honestly prefer a new house like the one in Gnisis personally, the large open area entrance with the downstairs rooms rather than changing Ald Velothi.

Many of us purchased and built Ald Velothi already and to have the added room downstairs would require us to change a good deal of our homes likely enough.

What if they gave us the option to buy an extension (with some added slots) and if we didn't buy it, nothing would change?

I'm not against it though I'd far prefer to see them adding more helpful things to housing than something so niche I feel only a few people would use it with the current constraints on furnishing limits as it stands. Adding a feature like that would only further aggravate that reoccurring gripe would it not?

Instead they could add better custom building materials or more diverse interiors mimicking the myriad of ones we've seen in the game already. Just my opinion though.

Well, no, because as I already said, it would only work if they included a generous amount of additional slots with the extension.

I think you're right that only a few people would buy an extension to the typical Manor/Notable, if it didn't come with any additional slots, because it was already at maximum.

This is because most of them are enormous already, with insufficient slots, as you rightly say.

However, I would have to disagree that people wouldn't buy extensions to smaller homes, if they came with a generous slot increase.

I would suggest a 100 slot increase with every medium sized room extension (e.g. one that is the diameter of the Snow Globe tower).

Which should be enough to both furnish the extra room and to provide quite a few extra slots, to be used wherever else we choose.

The OP isn't the only one who has asked for this kind of thing, over the last few years, so I do think it would be viable, if done right.

I think the custom materials are also needed, though, of course.

Don't really see why it should be one thing, or the other?

Tigerseye · February 2020

Also, there is presumably nothing stopping them selling extra slots (without an extension), for the smaller homes, in the Crown store.

If 700 is the maximum, for any house, fair enough.

But, that still doesn't explain why we can't buy extra slots for smaller houses, with sub-700 limits, does it?

Kittytravel · February 2020

Tigerseye wrote: »

Also, there is presumably nothing stopping them selling extra slots (without an extension), for the smaller homes, in the Crown store.

If 700 is the maximum, for any house, fair enough.

But, that still doesn't explain why we can't buy extra slots for smaller houses, with sub-700 limits, does it?

I'd rather just get extra slots in smaller homes rather than have to buy them. After all the furniture cost is already abysmal enough as is the prices of crown-only furniture. But that's my opinion. Even if it was an ESO+ only benefit like the double already is.

If we're talking like... 5 crowns a slot then sure I don't mind; but I think we both know that type of pricing rarely ever happens.

Tigerseye · February 2020

Kittytravel wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Also, there is presumably nothing stopping them selling extra slots (without an extension), for the smaller homes, in the Crown store.

If 700 is the maximum, for any house, fair enough.

But, that still doesn't explain why we can't buy extra slots for smaller houses, with sub-700 limits, does it?

I'd rather just get extra slots in smaller homes rather than have to buy them. After all the furniture cost is already abysmal enough as is the prices of crown-only furniture. But that's my opinion. Even if it was an ESO+ only benefit like the double already is.

If we're talking like... 5 crowns a slot then sure I don't mind; but I think we both know that type of pricing rarely ever happens.

Well, unless they are going to just give them to us (which would be ideal, I agree!), it probably should happen and for slightly less than 5 Crowns per slot, in my opinion.

Because, if they are not prepared to just give slots to us, at least that would be the compromise position between them doing that and them selling them to us for way too much.

So, I'm saying that a medium room extension + 100 slots should (logically) be 700 Crowns, going by the total cost of the Snow Globe (4,200 Crowns), with its 600 slots, divided by 6.

If extra slots were sold without an extension, however, they should obviously cost considerably less than that.

As there is no extra work involved.

Not that an empty room should be that much work, but still.

So, maybe, 3.5 Crowns per slot would be (relatively) fair?

That would be 350 Crowns for 100 slots, which is half what they should cost, in my example, if they came with an extension.

But, obviously, I would far prefer it if they just gave us extra slots, for every house, up to a maximum of 700 (or whatever the new maximum might be), for free.

Alinhbo_Tyaka · February 2020

I'm trying to figure out how best to close mine off because of the item cap. I don't see how I could use even more space when 400 items isn't enough for the existing interior and exterior areas.

TelvanniWizard · February 2020

We need more slots.

Tigerseye · February 2020

Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »

I'm trying to figure out how best to close mine off because of the item cap. I don't see how I could use even more space when 400 items isn't enough for the existing interior and exterior areas.

I think the point is, they would have to provide more slots, with any extension to a non max slot house, they offered.

If they offered more slots than you would typically need for the extension, you would then be able to use the spare slots to pad-out the rest of the house.

So, it's potentially a win-win.

...and yes you, basically, have to pick between the outside and the inside, with most places.

Can add a couple of items outside, in Ald Velothi, and can (obviously) swap a couple of existing items (like mushrooms), for something else, if you want.

But, you can't do much more than that, if you want to decorate the interior properly.

If you do leave the outside fairly natural (it's not like there is a lot of room outside, anyway), there are enough slots for the inside, however.

If you are just decorating the inside, it's not one of the hardest ones to stay within the limit of, by any means.

Overall, it's probably fairly average, or slightly better than average.

With the Nord ones (Autumn's Gate, Grymharth's Woe and Mistveil) and the Snowglobe (God bless that Snow Globe!) being the most generous with slots and the Redguard ones (Twin Arches, Hunding's and Princely Dawnlight) being the least (that I have encountered, so far).

Results may vary, depending on your furnishing expectations and priorities.