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2nd Murkire Strongbox: The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment.
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krachall✭✭✭✭✭
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Exactly. Many years ago I got to watch some panel groups with Clorox's marketing team. It's amazing and sad how easy it is to manipulate the average person.3 -
Jayne_Doe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Where the f is the pride in something that’s completely random?
Exactly! It's amazing that players feel a sense of accomplishment after grinding for hours and finally geting an RNG box. Someone else could have gotten the same amount or more in much less time. 'Cuz guess what - it's random.
Somehow, ZOS has convinced players that grinding for something for hours on end to finally get a drop is accomplishing something, LOL. Well, I suppose it's accomplishing the ability to endure monotony and pointlessness for some cosmetic fluff.4 -
Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Two days, two boxes, zero fragments. Bad reports from everyone. I will not be farming for these. Drop rate is about as bad as apex mounts in crates. ZOS makes me sad.
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Aptonoth✭✭✭✭✭Where the f is the pride in something that’s completely random?
Exactly! It's amazing that players feel a sense of accomplishment after grinding for hours and finally geting an RNG box. Someone else could have gotten the same amount or more in much less time. 'Cuz guess what - it's random.
Somehow, ZOS has convinced players that grinding for something for hours on end to finally get a drop is accomplishing something, LOL. Well, I suppose it's accomplishing the ability to endure monotony and pointlessness for some cosmetic fluff.
I *** hate mmo's but this is one of the few even slightly half decent games around and certainly better than Bethesda's sad efforts at making games since Skyrim. Singleplayer gamers don't get games made for them anymore too hard when you can sell skins and pay to win stuff to idiots.0 -
MajThorax✭✭✭✭✭Imagine the level of frustration if the reward wasn't some lame pet and memento but a mount or costume or motif.
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Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Where the f is the pride in something that’s completely random?
Exactly! It's amazing that players feel a sense of accomplishment after grinding for hours and finally geting an RNG box. Someone else could have gotten the same amount or more in much less time. 'Cuz guess what - it's random.
Somehow, ZOS has convinced players that grinding for something for hours on end to finally get a drop is accomplishing something, LOL. Well, I suppose it's accomplishing the ability to endure monotony and pointlessness for some cosmetic fluff.
I *** hate mmo's but this is one of the few even slightly half decent games around and certainly better than Bethesda's sad efforts at making games since Skyrim. Singleplayer gamers don't get games made for them anymore too hard when you can sell skins and pay to win stuff to idiots.
No, single player games without predatory monetization are absolutely still being made.
They’ve been getting more of my time and money since Zenimax started ruining Bethesda games.1 -
Dusk_Coven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think it's ironic that people would probably have just happily farmed quests for double reward boxes if ZOS didn't mention additional strongboxes could be grinded.
But they mentioned it and set the drop rate so low as to be virtually non-existent. AND they made fragments RNG.
Marketing fail.Edited by Dusk_Coven on February 21, 2020 4:32PM3 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭The other thing that nobody has mentioned here....
They ARE NOT tradable!
I'm sorry but I have to admit grudging admiration for the marketing team, they hit the ball out of the park with this one!!
P.S.:- One box, one memento fragment so far.When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!3 -
xXMeowMeowXx✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragged_Claw wrote: »Indeed! And if anyone here has received a second box or even a box with a fragment in it, I want to rub their hands for luck
I love this comment, very true and very lighthearted. Thnx 2 -
Ragged_Claw wrote: »[quote="xbobx15;c-6614359
"]so i take it, it is impossible to get the pet and emote and berry and next to impossible to get the berry and either the pet or emote?
It seems that way, yes. Unless you are prepared to start spending rl cash to buy tickets that is (which I suspect is the entire motivation behind this non-event).[/quote]
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Where do you get "the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment"?I_am_Groot wrote: »
What are you? Stupid?
No, marketers do not think that. My thought, upon reading that, was basically, "huh?" Marketers make you want to agree with them. They don't care if you are smart or stupid. Both are equally easy to convince.Dusk_Coven wrote: »I think it's ironic that people would probably have just happily farmed quests for double reward boxes if ZOS didn't mention additional strongboxes could be grinded.
But they mentioned it and set the drop rate so low as to be virtually non-existent. AND they made fragments RNG.
Marketing fail.
Maybe they need to get marketing involved, next time.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Cavedog✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't waste your time. Get your one box per day and GTFO. You can easily, and most do, spend an entire day in Murkmire and not get a second box. Get your one box and leave if you don't just love Murkmire. You are wasting your time if you are trying to farm a second box in a single day.
...I recommend just picking up the WB quest and doing that, and nothing else, once per day.Edited by Cavedog on February 21, 2020 4:47PM4 -
KMarble✭✭✭✭✭Where the f is the pride in something that’s completely random?
Exactly! It's amazing that players feel a sense of accomplishment after grinding for hours and finally geting an RNG box. Someone else could have gotten the same amount or more in much less time. 'Cuz guess what - it's random.
Somehow, ZOS has convinced players that grinding for something for hours on end to finally get a drop is accomplishing something, LOL. Well, I suppose it's accomplishing the ability to endure monotony and pointlessness for some cosmetic fluff.
I've been doing dailies in Murkmire for months now, hoping to complete the motifs that drop there. Went yesterday, got very lucky to get tickets and the golden box on my first kill...and that was were my luck ended - no fragments in the box.
I decided to loot all containers I could in the (vain) hope that a Murkmire furnishing plan would drop. I collected every nod I came across, killed everything I could and plucked every Scuddlebloom I found and got a big bunch of nothing.
I logged off, went about my day and logged back in the evening again. I thought about trying my luck in Murkmire again, but chose against it. Instead I went to CWC where I got 2 green plans, 1 blue, a purple - all of them CWC - and around 10k from fencing stolen items.
It did give me a sense of accomplishment, and a huge sense of relief as I got rid of the goal to get the pet. I think I'll go steal from Khajiit or Dark Elves today.
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ZOS_FalcoYamaokaadminGreetings,
Some posts have been removed due to violating our community rules around baiting. Please take a few moments to review what we expect from members of our community.0 -
Cirantille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Bruhh you are spending your real-life hours into a visual game to get a box with a 100 g treasure...
Think about it
And for a memento...
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Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS_FelipeF wrote: »Greetings,
Some posts have been removed due to violating our community rules around baiting. Please take a few moments to review what we expect from members of our community.
The drop rate for the strongbox is baiting. That is what should be addressed.13 -
Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭It is not free. It takes time and time has value ( a lot of value) so please give the entitled stuff a rest
Edited by Brandathorbel on February 21, 2020 5:20PM2 -
Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭Donny_Vito wrote: »Sounds like bad RNG. Got mine pretty quickly.
please stop with the rng crap. Many people are having issues. It is the other way around, you got lucky, everyone else is getting crap.
Lol stop with the RNG but then state that I have better RNG.... seems hypocritical.
And by Many people are having issues are you referring to just these forums? If we're going to make blanket statements on such a small sample size, then I saw multiple people in Zone Chat last night talking about how they've found multiple strongboxes therefore I think you're in the minority.0 -
Where the f is the pride in something that’s completely random?
Exactly! It's amazing that players feel a sense of accomplishment after grinding for hours and finally geting an RNG box. Someone else could have gotten the same amount or more in much less time. 'Cuz guess what - it's random.
Somehow, ZOS has convinced players that grinding for something for hours on end to finally get a drop is accomplishing something, LOL. Well, I suppose it's accomplishing the ability to endure monotony and pointlessness for some cosmetic fluff.
I've been doing dailies in Murkmire for months now, hoping to complete the motifs that drop there. Went yesterday, got very lucky to get tickets and the golden box on my first kill...and that was were my luck ended - no fragments in the box.
I decided to loot all containers I could in the (vain) hope that a Murkmire furnishing plan would drop. I collected every nod I came across, killed everything I could and plucked every Scuddlebloom I found and got a big bunch of nothing.
I logged off, went about my day and logged back in the evening again. I thought about trying my luck in Murkmire again, but chose against it. Instead I went to CWC where I got 2 green plans, 1 blue, a purple - all of them CWC - and around 10k from fencing stolen items.
It did give me a sense of accomplishment, and a huge sense of relief as I got rid of the goal to get the pet. I think I'll go steal from Khajiit or Dark Elves today.
CWC is the best region for getting quality loot that drops with any 'regularity' that makes it worth it. Its my favorite zone to go stealing in. The main town is just full of containers and boxes and so easy to pick from.
You can go steal from the rest of the races; but CWC still has a higher than average drop rate for 'good' stuff (as in either valuable to sell or keep).
As for me - I've not even started the event yet. Glad to read I won't have to spend long before returning to regular activities even with the RNG on the tickets. Cuz I won't be trying to keep farming for more boxes for sure.
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Cage_Lizardman✭✭✭✭✭Good thing I don't care that much about the rewards, or I'd cry a lot more over the two pieces of "treasure" I got in my one strongbox today.0 -
bakthi✭✭✭I'm kind of blown away by the number of people who seem to not be getting the reference in the OP:
https://gizmodo.com/congratulations-to-ea-games-for-posting-the-most-hated-1820391000
I also spent a couple of hours in Murkmire yesterday, but then that was on a character who'd never been there before, so I had places to go and skyshards to see. I think my remaining characters will get their skill points elsewhere (no, not necessarily Elsweyr). Just gonna zap a few enemies and go from now on; all I want are things I can buy with the tickets anyway.Army of me:CP810+: Breton Templar healer, Redguard stamina Warden, Imperial DK tank, Altmer magicka Sorceror, Orc stamina Sorceror/werewolf, Nord Necromancer tank, Khajit TG/DB Nightblade, Bosmer stamina Necromancer, Argonian Warden healer, Dunmer magicka DK, Nord Nightblade tank
Second account, CP400+: Breton magicka Warden, Nord Nightblade healer/solo vampire, Bosmer stamina Templar/werewolf, Dunmer magicka Necromancer, Orc stamina DK, Argonian Warden tank1 -
Alinhbo_Tyaka✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭After spending a couple of hours yesterday trying to get a second Strongbox I decided it wasn't worth the effort. I am doing the three dailies for the double drops, to pickup the event tickets and get first strongbox. If I don't get the pet or memento this go around they will most likely be back for the next Murkmire event so I will finish them then. My biggest hope is to be able to obtain the last two Elder Argonian motifs I need so I don't have to go back to Murkmire for a while.0 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm kind of blown away by the number of people who seem to not be getting the reference in the OP:
I am not even an EA customer, so yeah, I had forgotten about that.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »Sounds like bad RNG. Got mine pretty quickly.
please stop with the rng crap. Many people are having issues. It is the other way around, you got lucky, everyone else is getting crap.
Lol stop with the RNG but then state that I have better RNG.... seems hypocritical.
And by Many people are having issues are you referring to just these forums? If we're going to make blanket statements on such a small sample size, then I saw multiple people in Zone Chat last night talking about how they've found multiple strongboxes therefore I think you're in the minority.
believe it or not, i am also in 5 guilds with lots of players and there was a lot of people with the same issues.
stop your white knighting crap. Zos screwed up big time and as usually they are no where to be seen because they know people like you are here to defend them.7 -
WiseSky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I'm kind of blown away by the number of people who seem to not be getting the reference in the OP:
https://gizmodo.com/congratulations-to-ea-games-for-posting-the-most-hated-1820391000
...
I came here to say that...0 -
Ragged_Claw✭✭✭✭✭
✭Donny_Vito wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »Sounds like bad RNG. Got mine pretty quickly.
please stop with the rng crap. Many people are having issues. It is the other way around, you got lucky, everyone else is getting crap.
Lol stop with the RNG but then state that I have better RNG.... seems hypocritical.
And by Many people are having issues are you referring to just these forums? If we're going to make blanket statements on such a small sample size, then I saw multiple people in Zone Chat last night talking about how they've found multiple strongboxes therefore I think you're in the minority.
I don't know... The zone chat on both NA and EU was pretty spicy whilst I was farming. There seemed to be an awful lot of confusion about how to get tickets, if more than one box could even drop, why weren't the fragments in the box etc. I asked across multiple guilds and only a couple of people said they'd got an extra box, only one mind, not 'multiple'. To be fair, I think anyone getting more than the guaranteed box is in the minority, judging by some of the salty language I saw in zone chat anyway PC EU & NA3 -
Tabatha✭✭✭I have 5 alt accounts. 2 did not get a fragment in their strongbox. None found a 2nd strongbox. I played 10 hours.
The way they have this event set up, it is discouraging me to play.
Xbox NA
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Contaminate✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have 5 alt accounts. 2 did not get a fragment in their strongbox. None found a 2nd strongbox. I played 10 hours.
The way they have this event set up, it is discouraging me to play.
Xbox NA
Not that I enjoy people feeling bad trying to do play a game they used to enjoy, but I hope others have the same feeling here. If more people would begin to realize these events are being made to frustrate to extort money from players, and if more people would simply log out and avoid anything that would benefit ZOS’ profits. then maybe it would change.
Or maybe ZOS will do what they’ve historically done and just make their monetization even more sketchy. That seems to be their goal lately, full milk-mode.
It’s about time to let this game die to be honest. The company has absolutely no respect for its player.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ragged_Claw wrote: »Indeed! And if anyone here has received a second box or even a box with a fragment in it, I want to rub their hands for luck
(Uncertainly extends his hand...)
Day 1:
- No box on EU, but I played for only 10 minutes and switched to NA as soon as I got my tickets.
- 1st box on NA alongside my tickets, but no fragment, motif, or style mat, just gear. Didn't try for a 2nd box.
Day 2:
- 1st box on EU alongside my tickets, with 1 fragment plus gear. Haven't tried for a 2nd box yet.
- 1st box on NA alongside my tickets, same fragment as on EU, plus gear. Found a 2nd box later, with a style mat plus gear.I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!1 -
Ragged_Claw✭✭✭✭✭
✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »Ragged_Claw wrote: »Indeed! And if anyone here has received a second box or even a box with a fragment in it, I want to rub their hands for luck
(Uncertainly extends his hand...)
Day 1:
- No box on EU, but I played for only 10 minutes and switched to NA as soon as I got my tickets.
- 1st box on NA alongside my tickets, but no fragment, motif, or style mat, just gear. Didn't try for a 2nd box.
Day 2:
- 1st box on EU alongside my tickets, with 1 fragment plus gear. Haven't tried for a 2nd box yet.
- 1st box on NA alongside my tickets, same fragment as on EU, plus gear. Found a 2nd box later, with a style mat plus gear.
That's close enough, hold out those puddies for a big rubbing!PC EU & NA1